Best TE in the Nation?

[Mr. Boldin]

Which poses the question...is stoops a name or an up and coming coach?

Good question. I think he is both, because of Bob and Mark. This team is really Mike Stoops and Mark Stoops. They both have the name, rings, and NFL players to brag about to recruits. However, they are up and coming coaches. Mike Stoops has not proven much in the W column, but his recruiting and the way the team has turned around since he took over is more then enough to label him an up and coming coach.

 

[AZBALLER]

Good question. Mike Stoops has not proven much in the W column, but his recruiting and the way the team has turned around since he took over is more then enough to label him an up and coming coach.

I'm wondering how back to back 3-8 seasons equals a turnaround?

BTW, has his recruiting hurt UA? Are these kids going to qualify?

ASU fans have given Koetter a ton of $hit, but he never did as bad as Stoops...

 

[Mr. Boldin]

I'm wondering how back to back 3-8 seasons equals a turnaround?

BTW, has his recruiting hurt UA? Are these kids going to qualify?

ASU fans have given Koetter a ton of $hit, but he never did as bad as Stoops...

What are you talking about? UA lost 5 games by 7 points or less last season. That alone is a bright spot, considering what happened before Stoops took over and even in his first season as coach. How about a few more bright spots? UA's secondary is one of the best in the nation, Mike Thomas was co Pac-10 Freshman of the year, Willie Tuitama gives us someone who can play quarterback and win games, back to back top 25 recruiting classes.

While all that doesnt give us any wins or bowl games, it is more then enough to show the dramatic improvement Mike Stoops has made since taking over.

Im not sure how you can even question if Stoops' recruiting has hurt UA. That makes no sense at all, how, in any way, could Gabe Long not qualifying, hurt UA? Stoops has clearly improved Arizona by bringing in his own recruits.

Yeah Dirk never did as bad as Stoops has, but its not hard to see why. Look at what Stoops inherited. No talent, no QB, no depth on the O or D line, a program that had 2 maybe 3 guys drafted in the NFL in the last 4 years. Not to mention the Mackovic disaster.

There is no doubt Dirk is a good coach, ASU fans give him $hit, because he never meets their expectations. ASU always seems to win 7 or 8 games when most think they could win 9, maybe 10.

 

[AZBALLER]

To answer 1 of your q's, ua will lose scholi's if his kids don't do well in SCHOOL.

 

[AZBALLER]

What are you talking about? UA lost 5 games by 7 points or less last season. That alone is a bright spot, considering what happened before Stoops took over and even in his first season as coach. How about a few more bright spots? UA's secondary is one of the best in the nation, Mike Thomas was co Pac-10 Freshman of the year, Willie Tuitama gives us someone who can play quarterback and win games, back to back top 25 recruiting classes.

While all that doesnt give us any wins or bowl games, it is more then enough to show the dramatic improvement Mike Stoops has made since taking over

WOW!!!

When losing is a bright spot, then you're really down in the dumps(ASU Basketball)!!!

So, W's and L's don't count in wildcat land?

One point I do agree with you on is that ua has a solid secondary...

BTW, haven't you guys "claimed" to have had great recruiting seasons for something like 6 years now? Wasn't Mack the master recruiter? All of a sudden he left the "cupheard" empty, and now stoops is doing better?

Good luck budy.

 

[Mr. Boldin]

First of all lets go back to your question...

I'm wondering how back to back 3-8 seasons equals a turnaround?

Like I said, if you cant see the talent we have now, not to metion that we arent getting blown out in every loss (like we did under Mack), and lost 5 games by 7 points or less with the 15th strongest schedule in the nation, I dont know what else to say. Again, Stoops hasnt brought any wins with him, yet. However, if you still fail to see how UA's football program has done a complete 180 since Stoops took over, then maybe you need to get out of Montana more often.

Also, I never said anything about wins or losses not counting, in fact I said the opposite...

While all that doesnt give us any wins or bowl games, it is more then enough to show the dramatic improvement Mike Stoops has made since taking over.

I would not be one of the UA fans that will go out on a limb and say we had great recruiting classes under Mackovic. He did recruit well, but look how that turned out and how those players developed and performed in Tucson. Stoops has brought in two classes, both among the best ever in UA history, with this years class being the best ever.

One last comment, ASU will have a good D-line this year, with depth to match. ASU landing Howard is similar in comparison to UA landing Holmes. Throw in transfers DT Michael Marquardt and DE Tranell Morant, and ASU has plenty of talent on the D-line.

 

[AZBALLER]

Again, Stoops hasnt brought any wins with him, yet. However, if you still fail to see how UA's football program has done a complete 180 since Stoops took over, then maybe you need to get out of Montana more often.

Also, I never said anything about wins or losses not counting, in fact I said the opposite...

What?
What?

and WHAT?

So, I hear the same old crap, "wins mean nothing"? au has done a 180, yet their record continues to decline since the firing of their best coach ever(Tomey)...sad, sad days in tucson...

BTW, you need to get out of tucscon and smell some fresh air, like I actually have in Montana...

 

[Mr. Boldin]

What?
What?

and WHAT?

So, I hear the same old crap, "wins mean nothing"? au has done a 180, yet their record continues to decline since the firing of their best coach ever(Tomey)...sad, sad days in tucson...

BTW, you need to get out of tucscon and smell some fresh air, like I actually have in Montana...

When did I ever say wins mean nothing? I just said we have done everything else to turn around the program other then posting wins. Go ahead and ignore the fact that Arizona has turned around under Stoops. To you he hasnt done anything, because there are no Ws to talk about. In reality, wins come after you bring in talent. Stoops has brought in so much talent, yet you ignore that fact as well.

The sad days in Tucson left with Mack...

Are you living in 2004 still? Its 2006 and Arizona is a completely different team now. They are ready to make a bowl game and will, despite their difficult schedule.

BTW, I am out of Tucson, I live in Ohio. So I can smell the fresh air.

 

[AZBALLER]

If that's what you believe, then fair enough...All I see is a talented secondary and a talented yet fragile qb as ua's bright spots...That won't get them to a bowl game.

 

[Mr. Boldin]

If that's what you believe, then fair enough...All I see is a talented secondary and a talented yet fragile qb as ua's bright spots...That won't get them to a bowl game.

Im not sure where you get the fragile QB from, considering Tui is 6-2 212.

We have a pretty good WRs and a very talented defense.

 

[AZBALLER]

Im not sure where you get the fragile QB from, considering Tui is 6-2 212.

So I'm wondering how that tough qb finished the last quarter of his team's season?

 

[Mr. Boldin]

So I'm wondering how that tough qb finished the last quarter of his team's season?

You are trying waaaaaay too hard to pick a fight.

How many times do I have to make posts like these?

Who ever said Tui was a tough QB? I didnt, all I said is 6-2 212 isnt a fragile QB. Also, the reason he couldnt come back is, because Cantanese knocked him down and hell fell flat on his throwing shoulder.

Why do you keep trying to pick fights?

 

[AZBALLER]

I didn't know that stating facts was the same thing as picking fights...If it makes you feel better, then I'll try and state less facts.

 

[AZBALLER]

BTW, size doesn't make someone fragile...I've seen plenty of 300 lbs kids get hurt often.

 

[Mr. Boldin]

Im still not sure why you called Tui fragile?

He got hurt once in a game vs ASU, because of the injury he couldnt throw.

Here are some definitions of the word fragile:

vulnerably delicate
easily broken or damaged or destroyed
lacking solidity or strength

Tell me which definition Tui meets and why, because I dont understand you assessment of Tui?

 

[Card Trader]

He's the toughest guy on earth! Go UofA!