Bidwill Elected To Arizona Sports Hall Of Fame

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How does one explain the glowing testimonials from former players, coaches and media people? Unlike current players and coaches, these are people that don't have a vested interest in currying favor with Michael.
 

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How does one explain the glowing testimonials from former players, coaches and media people? Unlike current players and coaches, these are people that don't have a vested interest in currying favor with Michael.
I was thinking similar. It would be easy to just decline the invite and nobody would think anything of it.
 

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How does one explain the glowing testimonials from former players, coaches and media people? Unlike current players and coaches, these are people that don't have a vested interest in currying favor with Michael.
How does one explain the anonymous NFLPA surveys that, year after year, show how badly the Cardinals organization is run?
 

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How does one explain the glowing testimonials from former players, coaches and media people? Unlike current players and coaches, these are people that don't have a vested interest in currying favor with Michael.

I was thinking similar. It would be easy to just decline the invite and nobody would think anything of it.

Obviously people who have a relationship with the organization or in the NFL aren't going to turn down the opportunity to do a small favor for someone who's extremely rich and notoriously vindictive. At the same time, top-level players have a different relationship with ownership.

Part of Keim's whole gig was to take the heat for Michael when it comes to player management.
 

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Obviously people who have a relationship with the organization or in the NFL aren't going to turn down the opportunity to do a small favor for someone who's extremely rich and notoriously vindictive. At the same time, top-level players have a different relationship with ownership.

Part of Keim's whole gig was to take the heat for Michael when it comes to player management.

We see what we want to see. You question the intentions and motivations of those who speak favorably of Michael, but don't entertain the same skepticism for those that malign him. Mindreader...you are not.
 

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At the same time, top-level players have a different relationship with ownership.
Mike probably treats people who he thinks are important really well. That includes top level players. Great -- thats true of most people.


Its how you treat everyone else that tells the tale --- and at best, Mike's record there is pretty uneven

and btw: that AZ Cards video of employees applauding him on the Hall of Fame was reminiscent of North Korean propaganda films on Dear Leader.
 
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How does one explain the glowing testimonials from former players, coaches and media people? Unlike current players and coaches, these are people that don't have a vested interest in currying favor with Michael.
What glowing testimonials? Is there a huge number of them out there? Sources?
 

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Yes. That's one. Where are the rest? Compared to the absolute drubbing the rest of the world, former coaches and players, give him. I mean, what, people want to defend what an awesome guy Bidwill is suddenly? I'll try to make @phillycard laugh again by simply saying: Child please!
 

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Yes. That's one. Where are the rest? Compared to the absolute drubbing the rest of the world, former coaches and players, give him. I mean, what, people want to defend what an awesome guy Bidwill is suddenly? I'll try to make @phillycard laugh again by simply saying: Child please!
Apparently, you didn’t watch it either. It’s not one. It’s a multitude of people praising him. And many of the people are ones that have no need to do so whatsoever.
 

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How does one explain the glowing testimonials from former players, coaches and media people? Unlike current players and coaches, these are people that don't have a vested interest in currying favor with Michael.

They probably worked with Bill Bidwill and Michael was a huge upgrade over his dad... while still being a bottom 5 owner in the league.
 

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To be fair. Stout is old and doesn't understand these new fangled social media thingamagiggies
Nah. I just have less than zero desire to watch many of these vids, especially not ones with Kyler praising MB :) Waste of time.

To this, I would counter the multitudes of people from all levels of football that bag on him and the team, and point a finger back to the report cards and lawsuits. Not hard to do.

Again, weird that folks here are defending Mikey. By all accounts he's a terrible person and he definitely isn't good as an owner. But, hey, start a fan club if you'd like lol
 

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Nah. I just have less than zero desire to watch many of these vids, especially not ones with Kyler praising MB :) Waste of time.

To this, I would counter the multitudes of people from all levels of football that bag on him and the team, and point a finger back to the report cards and lawsuits. Not hard to do.

Again, weird that folks here are defending Mikey. By all accounts he's a terrible person and he definitely isn't good as an owner. But, hey, start a fan club if you'd like lol
This whole post is wee bit ridiculous. The guy literally asked the question. You answered it by asking what multitudes? When you get shown, you come up with some stupid statement about not wasting time to watch it but yet you can write out an entire paragraph about why. So really you didn’t want to know about what multitudes. Nobody’s defending Mikey in this thread or said he was a good owner. We’re just showing you that he has plenty of people willing to say good things about him. Ones that don’t need to or have a persona to put off like Kyler. Why even interject yourself into this thread if you don’t have the time nor do you really care as you say? Because you really do obviously. Lol
 
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