Bidwill, League Connection & Minority Impact on Hiring

[RedRob]

I predicted that Dennis Green was going to become our new head coach before McGinnis was fired. My thinking may have been suspect, but it may also bear some merit.

The Cardinals have always been front runners in minority hirings in the NFL. That alone in my opinion made a impact on the worth of Green's stock. After reading the CNNSI article where it referenced the league is wanting (pressuring maybe?) the Cards to sign Green only further supports this point of view.

We are all aware of the fact that Bidwill Sr. lacks the fundamental qualities essential to make good football decisions. I don't believe though that we take into account the strength of the relationship Mr. Bidwill has with the elder statesmen in the fraternity that is the NFL. If Mr. Bidwill believes that he can get a good coach and support the initiatives of the NFL he'll make that happen even if that coach is not his true #1 pick.

As to the theory that once Green becomes head coach he will eventually try to pry away power from Rod Graves, I disagree. Dennis Green and Rod Graves will have the opportunity to do something in Arizona that has not yet been accomplished in the NFL. That is win with both a minority coach and a minority Vice President. Now, will Green try to get control over as much power as possible? Sure, I would'nt expect anything different. At the same time both of these men will recognize that the opportunity presented before them is bigger than the possible individual rewards. Make no mistake, these two men will be constantly reminded of this opportunity.

The ironic thing here is that Mr. Bidwill's old fashioned approach to business has almost always provided poor results in the win loss columns. I believe that by towing the company line this time he will have actually given us a tremendous opportunity to eventually win a Super Bowl.

 

[WizardOfAz]

Interesting read RedRob - thanks.

 

[Sandan]

Sorry RedRob but I think that is fiction.

I was we are hearing reports of how Green has impressed the Cards, well he sure as heck impressed me at the press conference.

I think this is about ability and has nothing to do with race.

 

[JeffGollin]

I think this is about ability and has nothing to do with race.
Roger that. Stakes are too high right now in the Valley to place winning below any other priority.

 

[RedRob]

Please understand that I don't believe it is ONLY about race. To me it's more of a situation where the Bidwills like Dennis Green AND it helps the NFL which would influence Mr. Bidwill in his sense of urgency, the amount he's willing to pay, etc.

 

[Sandan]

And I'm saying that I don't think it has anything to do with it whatsoever.

Green was very impressive in person, he would have been impressive even if he were purple with yellow spots

 

[RedRob]

And that's my point. If the league needed to hire purple people with yellow spots to improve their image and Bidwill saw this as an opportunity to not only better his team but to ALSO help the league it would only increase his desire to sign that coach. I don't believe you could say the same thing about other owners such as Snyder or Davis.

 

[Goldfield]

Originally posted by nidan

Green was very impressive in person, he would have been impressive even if he were purple with yellow spots

That would be Viking colors, I dont think that would impress at all! j/k


I love Green I have wanted him from before Mac was gone. I will be thrilled if he becomes our new HC.


Pluss, people wont have much to rip us about. If we Hired Fassel I can hear the people now "The Cardinals only hired Fassel because they save money because the Giants are still paying some of his contract"

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Originally posted by nidan
I think this is about ability and has nothing to do with race.

...or character.

 

[Card Trader]

Originally posted by Brian in Mesa
...or character.

Screw character, it has some merit but past is past.....give me the guy that gives us the best shot at winning. Green is that guy.

 

[Sandan]

I'm not very visualy orientated, I hadn't considered the implication of the color scheme.

It was just the first silly combinatoin for a skin color I thought of.

 

[Tangodnzr]

Originally posted by nidan
I'm not very visualy orientated, I hadn't considered the implication of the color scheme.

It was just the first silly combinatoin for a skin color I thought of.

Freudian slip???

 

[Sandan]

Not at all, I just don't picture things in my mind very well

 

[jmt]

Originally posted by nidan
And I'm saying that I don't think it has anything to do with it whatsoever.

Green was very impressive in person, he would have been impressive even if he were purple with yellow spots

I agree. If the NFL wants to show a team can be successful with African Americans in charge they would not use the Arizona Cardinals as their flagship. Mr. B can't win for trying He deserves a lot of credit if we get Denny Green and this franchise will finally be back on the road to repectability.

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

Originally posted by nidan
And I'm saying that I don't think it has anything to do with it whatsoever.

Green was very impressive in person, he would have been impressive even if he were purple with yellow spots

That is simply not true.

You may have been impressed with him regardless (wont argue that) but to say him being interviewed and subsequently offered, the HC position has nothing at all to do with race is naive.

I like Green and think he would make a great addition regardless, but the Bidwills and the NFL certainly took race into consideration when interviewing him and Graves too for that matter.

 

[football24/7]

I hope the main reason Green is the top guy, is because he can win games on a consistent basis. If Mr. B was so concerned about having the first minority coach and GM, he could have had it long ago. While it bodes well for the public relations side of the busines, you cant tell me it was the main reason. With the track record this team has had in PHX, they need all the good karma they can get going into the new stadium. Winning games and only winning games is the bottom line. Green should be that man, if the front office truly is serious about changing its past behavior. Green has a good track record at spotting talent, and developing these players to higher levels. Lets hope two years of rust wears off fast. I am excited about the possibilities the new coaching team will bring to us. It couldnt be any worse right??