Bidwill says Saints demands led them away from Payton

[BritCard]

In the full interview he explains they made a counter offer. Hoped nobody else would pay the ask but Denver did.

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[BritCard]

Here is the rest for those that want it. Some interesting stuff including expanded explanation on Payton and the hiring process.

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[Stout]

I'm good passing on Payton because of this.

 

[BritCard]

I'm good passing on Payton because of this.

I've been super unimpressed with how he's putting his staff together too. Apart from hiring a few Saints assistants to step up into position coaches he's done little.

Still has no OC or DC. Did he not come into this with guys already lined up?

 

[BirdGangThing]

I suspected as much, glad we didn't cave

 

[YorkshireCardinal]

I've been super unimpressed with how he's putting his staff together too. Apart from hiring a few Saints assistants to step up into position coaches he's done little.

Still has no OC or DC. Did he not come into this with guys already lined up?

12 months out of the game is a long time it seems. ‘His guys’ suddenly became ‘someone else’s guys’.

 

[BritCard]

12 months out of the game is a long time it seems. ‘His guys’ suddenly became ‘someone else’s guys’.

Yeah I wonder if he had a "I'm Sean F-ing Payton. Coaches will flock to me" moment and then found that actually they wouldn't.

 

[GatorAZ]

He wasn’t paying Payton/Kingsbury a combined $100+ mil.

 

[CardsFan1399]

He just added Vance Joseph as his DC

 

[speedy]

So lame for MB to put this out.

So lame.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

He wasn’t paying Payton/Kingsbury a combined $100+ mil.

And giving up 2 2nd round picks.

 

[Totally_Red]

So lame for MB to put this out.

So lame.

Why is it lame?

 

[Outerlimits]

The responses in this topic are certainly far different than the numerous threads on here just a couple weeks ago.(the overwhelming criticism directed at Bidwill). Lol. I think I may owe Bidwill an apology for my own harsh criticism on this.

Granted, time will tell how good our current coaches are(and how well Payton does in Denver) but keeping Vance on staff and losing high draft picks doesn't seem like a recipe for success.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

This is actually smart ownership. Players (Kyler) like when management gets their back against the media mob.

 

[Jasper]

Wonder what the saints were asking and what was our counter?

 

[gmabel830]

Wonder what the saints were asking and what was our counter?

Well Denver ended up giving them a 1 this year and 2 next year for Payton + 3 next year. So, you'd think any deal we did would have had to include our 1st either this year or next year. I'm glad that the team didn't trade a first in either year.

 

[Jetstream Green]

And giving up 2 2nd round picks.

One would think the asking price would be about the same, but there is also a chance they demanded more of the Cardinals for whatever reason

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

I've been super unimpressed with how he's putting his staff together too. Apart from hiring a few Saints assistants to step up into position coaches he's done little.

Still has no OC or DC. Did he not come into this with guys already lined up?

I read an article earlier where there's already complaints about him being so slow with putting a staff together.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

Yeah I wonder if he had a "I'm Sean F-ing Payton. Coaches will flock to me" moment and then found that actually they wouldn't.

The current trend in the NFL is up & coming younger coaches from all over, college included. Maybe the hiring process is passing Payton by lol?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

One would think the asking price would be about the same, but there is also a chance they demanded more of the Cardinals for whatever reason

Well, they wanted a first round pick and the Cards only had 3. They weren't giving that up.

 

[Dback Jon]

One would think the asking price would be about the same, but there is also a chance they demanded more of the Cardinals for whatever reason

Same conference?

 

[Totally_Red]

Same conference?

Probably. Sounds like the Broncos gave them 2 choices. Glad we passed on forking over a first.

 

[YorkshireCardinal]

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[NWMike]

The Broncos sent the Saints the first round pick they received from Miami (that was originally San Fran's) #29 overall and next years second and in turn received a third rounder next year as well. I don't know about others on this board but our second round pick is only 5 slots lower at #34 so if we packaged that with a 2 next year and received say only a 4th rounder back instead of a 3rd that is a pretty similar package and I would have taken that deal. Maybe Payton is assembling his staff slowly but the guy would have brought instant credibility to the franchise and enthusiam to the fanbase something which is tbd with Gannon. Maybe Gannon will prove to be a better hire in the long run but as is stands right now its a big unknown especially with most of his staff having little to no experience in their new roles.