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So we could of had Payton, gave up 2 2nd rounders and kept VJ as our DC?
The saints really wanted our #3 pick?
The saints really wanted our #3 pick?
Bidwill says Saints demands led them away from Payton
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I think any trade for Payton that involved one of our first & keeping VJ was too much. I'm liking what JG & these young coaches are selling so far. They all seem to be young intelligent coaches so far that want to teach.
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People here act like picks played a bigger role than Money in not landing Sean Payton
Bidwill said the salary wasn’t an issue, it was the draft compensation that the Saints wanted.
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It was both.
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MB has made it clear (said on the record) that the salary demands by Payton were not the issue.
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Payton just hired VJ. I said I didn’t want him from jump street and now I feel more vindicated in that.
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Bidwill also said he is committed to winning.
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Different placement in the rounds during the draft too, as Dreamcastrocks stated as well
34 alone was too much to pay for payton.
Mike took the better option
and that appears to be truth as well. he has clearly shown he isnt afraid to make expensive changes.
being patient may be a flaw... but a guy can be committed to winning but just not know how.
Then how it was an issue with Cunningham? Bidwill is lying.
Can’t wait to get some red thumbs-down/disagrees
Payton is one of those old dudes phoning around his old pals from him little black book he hasn't updated for 15 years only to find half of them are dead and the other half retired.
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How can MB saying money was not the issue with signing Payton (which is what this thread is about?) get to being an issue with Cunningham (which we are not talking about?) and calling MB a liar?
Two totally different circumstances. IMO.
It can be like this:
Payton wants $20M a year and MB thinks he really is the guy. No problem.
Cunningham wants $6M a year. Ossenfort wants $3M a year. MB thinks both are equally strong candidates and maybe the only difference is salary. Why pay twice the amount 5of you don't think he's worth it?
Maybe MB is willing to pay if the value warrants it.
Payton wants $20M a year and MB thinks he really is the guy. No problem.
Cunningham wants $6M a year. Ossenfort wants $3M a year. MB thinks both are equally strong candidates and maybe the only difference is salary. Why pay twice the amount 5of you don't think he's worth it?
Maybe MB is willing to pay if the value warrants it.
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Cool, have my red thumbs down. We'd have shredded Bidwill for hiring someone from the Bears' front office after their terrible year, and funny enough, might have ended up with Gannon anyways, given that Cunningham was one year removed from being in the Eagles' front office.
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80% money. 20% picks. Bidwill ain’t got Walmart money.
He claims all that is behind the cardinal's and only wants to look forward.
Bidwill mentions his 200 million he has invested into the facilities. Every interview, multiple time in the interview. What’s that all about?
He claims all that is behind the cardinal's and only wants to look forward.
Bidwill mentions his 200 million he has invested into the facilities. Every interview, multiple time in the interview. What’s that all about?
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Payton is so last week. Time to move on.
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How much is Gannon's salary?
How much is Gannon's salary?
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Uh, probably a critical talking point for getting the Super Bowl back to the valley, and reiterating his commitment to the league to make it happen again?
Like it or not, he's an ambassador of the state to the league, and even further, an ambassador to drive business to the state.
It's not know. I'd imagine it's the same as Kliff was was around $5.5-$6m.
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I’m happy with what Bidwill has done so far. I’m glad Bidwill was not able to stroke Payton’s ego.
Probably should not have mentioned the repetitive 200 million talks. I was thinking he was mentioning it because of the recent noise about him being cheap.
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i dont question that
i question the competence to do it
as of today, Mike gets credit for doing a complete reset of his football operations with people from outside the organization. It would have been far, far cheaper and comfortable for him to simply promote Quentin Harris and make VJ the HC. He didnt, and that says he is committed.
time will tell if he picked the right people or not--i.e. competence.
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The Saints demands from the Cards may have been greater than that from the Broncos. The Saints wanted him out of the NFC so they wouldn't be competing with another team for a playoff spot.
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