Bill Bidwill to be inducted into Cards Ring of Honor

[gmabel830]

Halftime of the regular season home opener. I would guess there will be some mixed opinions on this, but not really surprising that Michael would want his dad inducted.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

They should just put a bowtie up there.

 

[AZ Native]

They should just put a bowtie up there.

Near the ice cream stand.

 

[Stout]

He used to own the team, but he was completely dog crap at running the team. Only one reason he gets inducted.

 

[tnmike]

He used to own the team, but he was completely dog crap at running the team. Only one reason he gets inducted.

What does it hurt?

 

[Stout]

What does it hurt?

It doesn't. It's more a reflection of this team's lack of a winning environment. To go off topic, it would be roughly akin to Mike Ashley going into a Newcastle United ring of honor *shudders*

 

[Harry]

What does it hurt?

It reduces the value for all the other honorees.

 

[az jam]

He was a nice man and generous to the community but the team was a disaster for many years with him as owner. What were his contributions to the NFL and to the Cardinals?? IMO, none.

 

[tnmike]

It reduces the value for all the other honorees.

I very seriously doubt that they really care

 

[Shane]

Like it or not he is and was a Cardinal Icon. It’s warranted. Bill got the new stadium everyone loves. Bill chose to bring the team that everyone loves to this town. He was a true philanthropist in the Phoenix area and helped thousands in the community. He owned the team during its most successful seasons. Granted way more bad then good. But anyone arguing this is silly. JMO.

 

[oaken1]

Some of you guys are just **** people.

Bill Bidwill was a great guy. a nice person and an honorable man.
maybe some of you recall he got screwed badly by moving the Cardinals to Arizona??? anybody remember why??

Because he made a deal, he shook a mans hand, and he moved his team. He moved a multi million dollar franchise across the country on a handshake....but the hand he shook was not an honorable man. Sure, he should have gotten a contract. But a mans word is his bond. Once you shake hands that deal is done. This is how an honorable man does business though I wouldnt expect most of you to understand.

even after getting screwed out of millions by arizona,...Billy B still donated to the community, built houses for the needy and fed the homeless in arizona.

He never built any great football teams. But he committed to making Arizona home for the cardinals and to making the Cardinals an asset to the community.

Bill Bidwill deserves to be in the Ring of Honor.

 

[Shane]

Some of you guys are just **** people.

Bill Bidwill was a great guy. a nice person and an honorable man.
maybe some of you recall he got screwed badly by moving the Cardinals to Arizona??? anybody remember why??

Because he made a deal, he shook a mans hand, and he moved his team. He moved a multi million dollar franchise across the country on a handshake....but the hand he shook was not an honorable man. Sure, he should have gotten a contract. But a mans word is his bond. Once you shake hands that deal is done. This is how an honorable man does business though I wouldnt expect most of you to understand.

even after getting screwed out of millions by arizona,...Billy B still donated to the community, built houses for the needy and fed the homeless in arizona.

He never built any great football teams. But he committed to making Arizona home for the cardinals and to making the Cardinals an asset to the community.

Bill Bidwill deserves to be in the Ring of Honor.

Absolutely 1000% You just said it better than I did

 

[Stout]

Some of you guys are just **** people.

Bill Bidwill was a great guy. a nice person and an honorable man.
maybe some of you recall he got screwed badly by moving the Cardinals to Arizona??? anybody remember why??

Because he made a deal, he shook a mans hand, and he moved his team. He moved a multi million dollar franchise across the country on a handshake....but the hand he shook was not an honorable man. Sure, he should have gotten a contract. But a mans word is his bond. Once you shake hands that deal is done. This is how an honorable man does business though I wouldnt expect most of you to understand.

even after getting screwed out of millions by arizona,...Billy B still donated to the community, built houses for the needy and fed the homeless in arizona.

He never built any great football teams. But he committed to making Arizona home for the cardinals and to making the Cardinals an asset to the community.

Bill Bidwill deserves to be in the Ring of Honor.

Oh, so that makes me an "asterisk" person? lol Whatever. No one's questioning he was a nice guy and an honorable man. Ever hear the phrase "Nice guys finish last?" Maybe he shouldn't have made such a major decision based solely on a handshake?

 

[legend]

boy . . .

 

[tnmike]

Oh, so that makes me an "asterisk" person? lol Whatever. No one's questioning he was a nice guy and an honorable man. Ever hear the phrase "Nice guys finish last?" Maybe he shouldn't have made such a major decision based solely on a handshake?

I've closed many a deal on just a handshake. That's how it used to be done when men were real men and backed up their word not like alot of the panty waists of today. Yes, I got burned once or twice but that's the way it used to be done and I'm pretty sure that's what happened to him.

 

[TRW]

A family honoring their patriarch is fine. Honoring a decent man, by all accounts is a privilege the Bidwills have. Big nothing burger to me.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Iirc he was offered free land near Westgate but he didn't want a stadium out west and because of naming rights. It was offered by John f Long.

 

[speedy]

Like it or not he is and was a Cardinal Icon. It’s warranted. Bill got the new stadium everyone loves. Bill chose to bring the team that everyone loves to this town. He was a true philanthropist in the Phoenix area and helped thousands in the community. He owned the team during its most successful seasons. Granted way more bad then good. But anyone arguing this is silly. JMO.

The “ring” should be held for the guys under helmet IMO. I’d rather see a statue of mr b, twice the size of Tillman’s, just inside the north entrance of the stadium; they could build it as such no one could touch it, and his life’s timeline documented in a story that reads as you walk 360 degrees around it.

I don’t like him being in the ROH. The only thing I don’t like more is Carson being in the ROH (and I liked Carson).

 

[Shane]

The “ring” should be held for the guys under helmet IMO. I’d rather see a statue of mr b, twice the size of Tillman’s, just inside the north entrance of the stadium; they could build it as such no one could touch it, and his life’s timeline documented in a story that reads as you walk 360 degrees around it.

I don’t like him being in the ROH. The only thing I don’t like more is Carson being in the ROH (and I liked Carson).

I actually think that would be a great tribute. Great idea. But I don’t have issue with this either.

 

[PACardsFan]

Some of you guys are just **** people.

Bill Bidwill was a great guy. a nice person and an honorable man.
maybe some of you recall he got screwed badly by moving the Cardinals to Arizona??? anybody remember why??

Because he made a deal, he shook a mans hand, and he moved his team. He moved a multi million dollar franchise across the country on a handshake....but the hand he shook was not an honorable man. Sure, he should have gotten a contract. But a mans word is his bond. Once you shake hands that deal is done. This is how an honorable man does business though I wouldnt expect most of you to understand.

even after getting screwed out of millions by arizona,...Billy B still donated to the community, built houses for the needy and fed the homeless in arizona.

He never built any great football teams. But he committed to making Arizona home for the cardinals and to making the Cardinals an asset to the community.

Bill Bidwill deserves to be in the Ring of Honor.

No one questions whether he was a great guy. I’m sure he was by all accounts. That alone and the fact he was the owner certainly meets the criteria for induction. Sadly, as a fan for almost 60 years, I can attest to what an inept owner he was. And the fact he came to AZ on a handshake is just further evidence of his ineptness as an owner of any type of franchise. Living an hour away, it still galls me that he didn’t take Baltimore’s offer. It was a FAR better offer, not a handshake deal, and we could have stayed in the NFC East & kept our traditional rivalries with Dallas, Philly, NYG, and Washington. The fans of the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s got screwed.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Some of you guys are just **** people.

Bill Bidwill was a great guy. a nice person and an honorable man.
maybe some of you recall he got screwed badly by moving the Cardinals to Arizona??? anybody remember why??

Because he made a deal, he shook a mans hand, and he moved his team. He moved a multi million dollar franchise across the country on a handshake....but the hand he shook was not an honorable man. Sure, he should have gotten a contract. But a mans word is his bond. Once you shake hands that deal is done. This is how an honorable man does business though I wouldnt expect most of you to understand.

even after getting screwed out of millions by arizona,...Billy B still donated to the community, built houses for the needy and fed the homeless in arizona.

He never built any great football teams. But he committed to making Arizona home for the cardinals and to making the Cardinals an asset to the community.

Bill Bidwill deserves to be in the Ring of Honor.

People who do not like the move need to remember one thing, you would not have the Cardinals (this does not mean just being in Arizona, but surviving and being part of the NFL for so long) without him

 

[oaken1]

No one questions whether he was a great guy. I’m sure he was by all accounts. That alone and the fact he was the owner certainly meets the criteria for induction. Sadly, as a fan for almost 60 years, I can attest to what an inept owner he was. And the fact he came to AZ on a handshake is just further evidence of his ineptness as an owner of any type of franchise. Living an hour away, it still galls me that he didn’t take Baltimore’s offer. It was a FAR better offer, not a handshake deal, and we could have stayed in the NFC East & kept our traditional rivalries with Dallas, Philly, NYG, and Washington. The fans of the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s got screwed.

So... you agree he was a nice guy.

You agree he deserves to be in the RoH

But you decided to take this opportunity to **** on the man anyway.


WOW!!

Kudos to you!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

So... you agree he was a nice guy.

You agree he deserves to be in the RoH

But you decided to take this opportunity to **** on the man anyway.


WOW!!

Kudos to you!

Eh, point out what he said that was inaccurate.

 

[oaken1]

Eh, point out what he said that was inaccurate.

Did i ever state he was inaccurate?
Even though what he expressed was an opinion?

No.

However. In MY opinion, coming into a thread discussing honoring a man for his lifes work and accomplishments,...and spouting opinions on the mans failings,... well thats just low class.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Did i ever state he was inaccurate?
Even though what he expressed was an opinion?

No.

However. In MY opinion, coming into a thread discussing honoring a man for his lifes work and accomplishments,...and spouting opinions on the mans failings,... well thats just low class.

I don’t think that’s what this thread is. This thread title stated a fact that he’s being inducted. People can have different opinions about whether he’s worthy. And if this thread is about “his life’s work” as you intimidate it’s entirely appropriate to discuss his pluses and his failings, particularly if a football owner whose team had more of the latter than the former.

But go ahead, and in the age-old tradition of ASFN, attack another poster for their opinion on the football-related subject matter. Kudos to you classy guy!