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Agreed, just as the accuracy weighs in Gabberts favor, IMO.
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Agreed, just as the accuracy weighs in Gabberts favor, IMO.
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Newton is accurate too but Gabbert has him beat in time behind center...Newton has less than 250 pass attempts I think.
I think both QBs could be good but both are projects because of the offense they played in college. Newton has the higher ceiling though because of his freakish athleticism but he will probably the longer term project.
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Ill take Gabbert's completion % in nearly twice as many attempts this year, over a scrambling QB. Newton is accurate too, but he also hasnt even attempted 270 passes in his D1 career.
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Wow, look at this write-up on Gabbert from walterfootball in their mock:
Gabbert is constantly out of shape, terribly inaccurate and the product of a gimmick offense. But because of his size, arm strength and upside, he's widely considered to be a top-10 prospect. I give up.
Gabbert is constantly out of shape, terribly inaccurate and the product of a gimmick offense. But because of his size, arm strength and upside, he's widely considered to be a top-10 prospect. I give up.
Hey I'll take inaccurate with a 63.4% completion percentage over the sub-60% guys we had this year.
I've followed Walterfootball mocks for a long time. It's a total opinion piece. The guy has total biases and doesn't really do too much real evaluation.
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Scout Inc. grades Gabbert's intangibles as exceptional (highest possible grade), and says:
"Takes care of his business both on and off the field. Excellent student in the class room and was named first-team Academic All-Big 12 selection in 2009. Vocal leader and challenges teammates in offseason workouts."
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/27028/blaine-gabbert
Walterfootball is a joke.
"Takes care of his business both on and off the field. Excellent student in the class room and was named first-team Academic All-Big 12 selection in 2009. Vocal leader and challenges teammates in offseason workouts."
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/27028/blaine-gabbert
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Whats the difference between him and Mallett? Don't say accuracy because Mallets % was higher this year in more of a downfield offense.
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Intelligence and leadership have been mentioned. Gabbert also is a bit more mobile. Mallet urinates when he sees a blitz coming, but Gabbert also makes poor decisions at times.
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If you get a chance watch the first series (I think) against the Buckeyes. IIRC it was 3rd down and Mallet throws a pass and falls forward and face plants on the turf. He looked like a Walrus trying to get up, completely unathletic.
That's my uninformed and limited opinion in the difference of the two.
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how about touch and accuracy on the shorter throws?
Everything Mallet throws comes out on a line. Gabbert has better touch, but still has plenty of arm to drive the ball downfield.
Gabbert is more athletic. Mizzou actually runs designed plays where Gabbert runs the ball. He is no Cam Newton, but he can run with the ball.
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This pretty much sums up my view of things. Gabbert just appears to be much further along in his development at this stage than Mallet.
If it was a close race between Mallet and Gabbert for #2 QB this year after Newton, Gabbert vastly outplayed Mallet in their respective bowl games and probably secured himself as the #2 QB.
I sort of like Gabbert, but it would be gasp worthy if they drafted him at No. 5. He's a curious prospect. He has a really quick release and can get the ball downfield, but accuracy greatly declines the further downfield he throws. He's often a backfoot thrower, and with that short-armed quick release on the fade, he looks like Dan Freakin' Marino. His footwork goes in and out. Sometimes he's tech perfect. Sometimes he's a clown.
He can definitely make all the throws, but you watch that offense he runs and it's the glorified run and shoot. You have to throw out most of his stats, or reduce them by 30 percent or something. He is somewhat mobile, but he doesn't make a lot of stellar plays in the passing game when he's on the run. He'll get you 8 yards on the scramble, but you're probably not going to see him complete a long pass on a broken play or anything. Also, I'd love to see Missouri's YAC stats, because a lot of those yards started out of bubble screens and short slants. I guess the good news is he's pretty accurate on those.
It's hard to get a read on him. Him and Newton are the only legit 1st round prospects IMO, and I can't say with any confidence I'd want to be the GM that drafted them in the Top 10. OTOH, both do have really high upsides.
He can definitely make all the throws, but you watch that offense he runs and it's the glorified run and shoot. You have to throw out most of his stats, or reduce them by 30 percent or something. He is somewhat mobile, but he doesn't make a lot of stellar plays in the passing game when he's on the run. He'll get you 8 yards on the scramble, but you're probably not going to see him complete a long pass on a broken play or anything. Also, I'd love to see Missouri's YAC stats, because a lot of those yards started out of bubble screens and short slants. I guess the good news is he's pretty accurate on those.
It's hard to get a read on him. Him and Newton are the only legit 1st round prospects IMO, and I can't say with any confidence I'd want to be the GM that drafted them in the Top 10. OTOH, both do have really high upsides.
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Apples and Oranges. 63.4% is actually pretty low for college football. Where as above 60% is the standard in the NFL. 63% doesn't even put him in the top 30 QB's in D1 football.
Combine that with his captain check down impression with a staggeringly low 6.5 yards per attempt and his completion % looks even worse. And by low I mean being ranked 99th out of 115 QB's.
For comparisons sake Newton was chucking the ball down the field at a nation leading 10.5 yards an attempt and had a 67.1 completion %.
DA was a sub 60% passer in college if I remember correctly. At any rate he looks more accurate than DA and has a much better body than Hall.
As for "captain checkdown" that would be a million times better than the sacks or picks that DA and Hall were throwing as well. A 3 yard pass is still better than an incomplete pass or a sack.
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He has zero off field problems, good leadership, coachable and he has all the tools.
I think people drafting Newton that high are crazy, simply because I think IMO he has character issues that I don't like at all.
Just my personal opinion.
Gabbert is far from Peyton Manning, which is why I do not rank him as a savior type QB, in fact it would not surprise me at all to see him have a far worse first year than Newton but overall a much better career.
He's worth a top pick to the right team, Gabbert that is, I don't think we're that team, but someone I feel is going to be very glad they drafted him.
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