Both Phoenix and Chicago Need a Trade

[silverstyne]

After watching both Phoenix and Chicago play this week, I can sense both teams need a heart transplant. How about a major trade:

PHOENIX TRADES
Shawn Marion
Leandro Barbosa
Marcus Banks

CHICAGO TRADES
Ben Wallace
Andres Nocioni
Chris Duhon

It works on the Real GM Trade Checker. It probably needs a little tweaking - Chicago has lots of cheap rookies that are trade fodder. I know that Coach Mike would never go for this though (offensive players vs defensive ones) In any case, what do you guys think?

 

[green machine]

I don't want anything to do with Ben Wallace. He's not an impact player anymore, and he's soooooooo bad on offense it is sad.

 

[overseascardfan]

Yeah I would take out Wallace & replace him w/ Noah & Thomas.

 

[cly2tw]

Bad moves for both teams. With Gordon, what do Bulls need LB for? And we can't really use Ben and wouldn't want to touch his contract anyway.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

Our two most marketable and valuable players for pennies on the dollar.

thumbs down

Plus, after a coach swap I doubt they want to blow up the team anyway.

Although a coach swap and a player change at once isn't out of the range of possibilities.

 

[asudevil83]

haha.....aweful. Wallace right now = Banksx4 as far as bad contracts go. so he's basically just a huge filler in evening out contracts.

MAYBE:

Wallace
Deng
Thomas

Marion
Barbosa

 

[abomb]

I don't want anything to do with Ben Wallace. He's not an impact player anymore, and he's soooooooo bad on offense it is sad.

 

[asuhoopnut]

haha.....aweful. Wallace right now = Banksx4 as far as bad contracts go. so he's basically just a huge filler in evening out contracts.

MAYBE:

Wallace
Deng
Thomas

Marion
Barbosa

Throw in Sefaloosha (sp?) and a 1st round pick from Chicago and I'm on board. It's time for a shakeup with some young talent that's definitely in need of a change of scenery after being beaten down by Skiles.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I would be on board too. Wallace is EXACTLY what this offense needs. Move Amare back to PF along with Wallace at C is great. Leave Wallace behind to clean up the boards, crash the offensive glass. You then get Deng or Thabo or whoever to play SF.

Nash
Bell
Thabo/Deng
Amare
Wallace

looks pretty good to me.

I don't mind playing 4 on 5 offensively if we can get the defense of Wallace.

 

[OldDirtMcGirt]

I don't see why Chicago would do this. Their biggest problem is a lack of guys that can't score consistently and create their own offense, so why in the world would they trade for Shawn, especially when they already have Luol Deng. The things that Shawn brings to the table (rebounding, defense, and hustle) are already strengths of the Bulls.

 

[arwillan]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2429~3224~3032~2165~2166~3238&teams=21~21~21~4~4~4&te=&cash=




We get a bunch of help defensively and on the boards (what we desperately need). We also get a good scorer in deng and a guy who can finish in thomas.


They get a guy who can create his own shot in barbosa (what they desperately need). Then they get another offensive guy to cover ben wallace's lack of offense in the front court in Tucker. Banks is there mostly as a filler but his defense would fit right in out there. He can also use his quickness to get into the lane which could help chicago become somewhat less of a jump-shooting team (barbosa also contributes to this area).


http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...2165~2166~3238&teams=21~21~21~4~4~4&te=&cash=

that's another variation of the same trade. it makes it more friendly to chicago because they can keep noah and give up sefalosha instead.

 

[dodie53]

the Bulls wouldn't trade Deng for Kobe so why would they do that trade?
and they already have Gordon.

 

[devilalum]

the Bulls wouldn't trade Deng for Kobe so why would they do that trade?
and they already have Gordon.

I'm not sayin they'd trade Deng for Marion but I bet they'd trade Deng for Kobe now.

 

[cly2tw]

I'm not sayin they'd trade Deng for Marion but I bet they'd trade Deng for Kobe now.

That's Kobe who didn't want to join the Bulls without Deng on it.

But if they are trying to dump Wallace's contract, I might be willing to do Marion/Banks/Pike for Wallace/Thomas/Sefolosha/Duhon.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2429~3224~3032~2165~2166~3238&teams=21~21~21~4~4~4&te=&cash=




We get a bunch of help defensively and on the boards (what we desperately need). We also get a good scorer in deng and a guy who can finish in thomas.


They get a guy who can create his own shot in barbosa (what they desperately need). Then they get another offensive guy to cover ben wallace's lack of offense in the front court in Tucker. Banks is there mostly as a filler but his defense would fit right in out there. He can also use his quickness to get into the lane which could help chicago become somewhat less of a jump-shooting team (barbosa also contributes to this area).


http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...2165~2166~3238&teams=21~21~21~4~4~4&te=&cash=

that's another variation of the same trade. it makes it more friendly to chicago because they can keep noah and give up sefalosha instead.

WTF?!?!?!?

You do know that the Bulls do not exist as an organization solely to help the Suns, right?

 

[Folster]

Wallace
Deng
Thomas

Marion
Barbosa

LOL!

 

[Bufalay]

Marion is exactly the type of player that the Bulls don't need.

 

[arwillan]

WTF?!?!?!?

You do know that the Bulls do not exist as an organization solely to help the Suns, right?

you do know that the bulls are 9-17 (34%) right now with a coach who was brought in in the middle of the year, right? they need to make a change.

 

[Ronin]

^^
That's a terrible change for the Chicago Bulls.

 

[Covert Rain]

I think Ben Wallace is done.

 

[Mainstreet]

I wonder what Amare is worth to the Bulls? I definitely would not want Wallace in return.

 

[overseascardfan]

The Bulls aren't a realistic trade partner as we won't trade Amare & they can't use Marion. Teams like the Grizzlies, Lakers, and Raptors would have a use for Marion. But only the Lakers & Grizzlies would have pieces we would want.

 

[cly2tw]

The Bulls aren't a realistic trade partner as we won't trade Amare & they can't use Marion. Teams like the Grizzlies, Lakers, and Raptors would have a use for Marion. But only the Lakers & Grizzlies would have pieces we would want.

Getting rid of Ben's contract for Marion might be enticing to the Bulls. If they decide to rebuild, trading Ben/Thomas/Sefolosha/Duhon for Marion/Banks/Marks might be good start.

Now Amare has shown his dominance and smarts on offense, I'm not opposed to having Ben starting next to him, who'd be able to set hard picks for Nash and LB to make himself useful on offense.

 

[dodie53]

would DA like Big Ben?

he has no offense.

 

[arwillan]

would DA like Big Ben?

he has no offense.

he would hate him. he hated Kurt Thomas who at least had a respectable mid-range shot, so he would go insane with big ben on his team.