Boulware Released

[FrontRow]

The Ravens released Peter Boulware. Is there any reason we shouldn't snap him up?

I thought he is an animal. Why would they let him go?

 

[imaCafan]

Injuries more than likely......missed all of last year.

 

[Pariah]

Wow. That's a surprise. I didn't know he was on the bubble.

 

[WizardOfAz]

Story:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...vens.boulware.ap/index.html?section=si_latest

 

[spanky1]

The Ravens released Peter Boulware. Is there any reason we shouldn't snap him up?

I thought he is an animal. Why would they let him go?

Don't need him.........we are growing our own.

 

[Wildfire]

There is a time in every team's history when fans read the NFL reports and salivate like Pavlov's dog everytime a big name or not so big name player is released by another team. They always think that the grass is greener on the other side and that if we don't sign that player, the season is over before it gets started.

I, for one, have gotten past that point in time and believe that we are in the process (as previously stated in another post) of doing quite well in "Growing Our Own" and will soon be in the playoffs with our own home grown guys.

Let's all move forward to a great 2005 season and move past the "So & So got released and we've got to sign him" stage in the maturing of the Cards into a REAL WINNING football team.

 

[BigDavis75]

He's been injured and his production has dropped, plus he has a huge salary. Also, there are three guys on that team that could take his spot.

 

[az jam]

There is a time in every team's history when fans read the NFL reports and salivate like Pavlov's dog everytime a big name or not so big name player is released by another team. They always think that the grass is greener on the other side and that if we don't sign that player, the season is over before it gets started.

I, for one, have gotten past that point in time and believe that we are in the process (as previously stated in another post) of doing quite well in "Growing Our Own" and will soon be in the playoffs with our own home grown guys.

Let's all move forward to a great 2005 season and move past the "So & So got released and we've got to sign him" stage in the maturing of the Cards into a REAL WINNING football team.

We are in total agreement. We have signed the free agents that Denny wanted and had a great draft. We will have an exciting team to watch this year. It will be fun.

 

[Redsz]

I don't think we will make a move for him (even though we have the cap room to do so).

He is getting older and had injurys recently. But when he is healthy he is a BEAST when it comes to rushing the passer.

Personally, I think we have the same type of player as him in Blackstock and Dansby.

That being said, if we did sign him, I certainly wouldn't be upset.

For discussion sake, if we did sign him... Where do you guys think we could put him?

 

[BACH]

We're already very deep at OLB and there are too many question marks about Boulware for us to sign him.

BTW - Thomas and Cody takes over from Boulware, but who fills in for Hartwell?

 

[Syracusecards]

We're already very deep at OLB and there are too many question marks about Boulware for us to sign him.

BTW - Thomas and Cody takes over from Boulware, but who fills in for Hartwell?

They're going to a 4-3 so there was no spot for Hartwell. That's why he left.

 

[BACH]

They're going to a 4-3 so there was no spot for Hartwell. That's why he left.

Ahh, right. Forgot about that.

 

[Sandan]

The Ravens released Peter Boulware. Is there any reason we shouldn't snap him up?

I thought he is an animal. Why would they let him go?

Yes and from CNN/SI

OWINGS MILLS, Md. (AP) -- The Baltimore Ravens released injury-plagued former Pro Bowl linebacker Peter Boulware on Wednesday because of salary-cap reasons.

Boulware missed the entire 2004 season with knee and toe injuries. He hasn't played in a game since late in the 2003 season against the Cleveland Browns, when he injured his knee. He suffered a turf toe during a November practice in 2004, and was placed on injured reserve.

The last thing we need is a injury plagued over priced OLB

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

wow. i can't believe i was completely unaware of his absence last year. what a fall for that guy!

 

[Cheesebeef]

wow. i can't believe i was completely unaware of his absence last year. what a fall for that guy!

but wait - the only reason Suggs was any good was because of Boulware and Ray Lewis! That can't be!

 

[BACH]

but wait - the only reason Suggs was any good was because of Boulware and Ray Lewis! That can't be!

For now you're comparing apples and oranges. Suggs played OLB in a 3-4 defense and not DE in the 4-3.

Would Steve Foley or Jerry Porter get 10+ sacks as our DE? Suggs moves to 4-3 DE this season and it'll be interesting to follow.

 

[BACH]

DID BOULWARE TEST THE MARKET?

During our weekly Friday morning segment with Terry Ford and Drew Forrester of WNST 1570 in Baltimore, an interesting question came up regarding the decision of Ravens linebacker Peter Boulware to spurn the team's offer of $2 million in salary and up to $2 million in incentives for 2005.

Did Boulware's agents know what the market would bear before telling Ozzie to shove it up his Newsome?

We've preached about tampering in this space on multiple times. It's wrong. It's against the rules. It's improper.

It happens.

Here's how it goes down. Agents reach out to teams to discuss the hypothetical terms that a hypothetical player could realize on the hypothetical open market if he were available, hypothetically. Since the tampering technically is performed by the team and not the agent, we think it's stoopid for any agent who knows that there's a sum certain behind Door No. 1 to not try to get a peek behind Door No. 2, before it flies open to reveal a goat humping a fence post.

So if, in this case, Boulware's agent didn't place an afternoon's worth of calls to every NFL team in the hopes of striking up such a conversation before telling the Ravens "no," then Boulware should consider firing him.

Hell, it's not as if the agent had to even take the initiative. Media reports were swirling about Boulware's potential release several days before it happened. If a team had a strong interest in acquiring his services, a call discreetly could have been made, and a "conversation that never happened" could have occurred.

Sure, the teams shouldn't be doing this. But they do it, whether by talking about impending free agents at the Scouting Combine or talking about cap casualties who face a "take a cut or take a hike" ultimatum. And, in reality, the agents aren't doing the best job they possibly can do for their clients if they're not willing to listen to things that, in theory, never should be said while the guy is still under contract.

Found this on PFT.com,so take it with a grain of salt.

Sounds like Boulware burned his bridges in Baltimore due to bad advice from his agent. Seems to happen a lot these days...

 

[Pariah]

I read somewhere that Seattle was looking closely at him. It would hook he and his brother up on that D (his bro plays safety).

No link, sorry.

 

[AzJc]

I read somewhere that Seattle was looking closely at him. It would hook he and his brother up on that D (his bro plays safety).

No link, sorry.

word has it its between the Seahawks and the Browns

 

[Cheesebeef]

For now you're comparing apples and oranges. Suggs played OLB in a 3-4 defense and not DE in the 4-3.

HUH? I'm not comparing anything to anything - merely pointing out the fallacy that Suggs was only as good as he was because of the people around him.

 

[BACH]

HUH? I'm not comparing anything to anything - merely pointing out the fallacy that Suggs was only as good as he was because of the people around him.

My mistake then.

I took your comment as yet another "passing on Suggs" Graves bashing.

 

[Cheesebeef]

My mistake then.

I took your comment as yet another "passing on Suggs" Graves bashing.

nah - I'm as guilty as Graves - I was afraid of his size and speed - but have been proven wrong and I don't think moving to down linemen is gonna hurt him all that much - getting to the QB is an inate skill IMO that you either have or you don't - I'm pretty confident seeing what I've seen from Suggs that he does have it but will be interested to see him prove it at DE.

However - I would have never traded down - Lefty should have been the pick.

 

[vince56]

Would Steve Foley or Jerry Porter get 10+ sacks as our DE? Suggs moves to 4-3 DE this season and it'll be interesting to follow.

Prediction: He'll be in the Pro Bowl come February '06.


I remember fondly our Suggs/Leftwich discussions from a few years ago. Then the cards had to go out and not draft either player.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Prediction: He'll be in the Pro Bowl come February '06.


I remember fondly our Suggs/Leftwich discussions from a few years ago. Then the cards had to go out and not draft either player.

thank the Lord those days are HISTORY! They don't even bother me anymore because I KNOW we are headed in the right direction.

 

[BACH]

Prediction: He'll be in the Pro Bowl come February '06.


I remember fondly our Suggs/Leftwich discussions from a few years ago. Then the cards had to go out and not draft either player.

I actually think Suggs will been great as a 4-3 DE, too

My point was that if the coaching staff truly believed Suggs was a 3-4 OLB, then I can understand why they didn't draft him. If we had brought in Steve Foley or Joey Porter to play DE instead of Berry or Okeafor then I'm sure everyone here would go nuts.