BPA Theory

[CaptTurbo]

I dont catch a lot of college football.

If we use the BPA approach who are we likely to get at 21?

 

[JeffGollin]

Rod G and Wiz have already admitted to using a "modified BPA" approach.

By this I mean that they factor in "could fill a crucial roster need" and "fit within the Cardinal system" into each prospect's write up and rating score.

Then they rank the players.

Just guessing, but: If the Cards didn't have so huge a hole at offensive tackle, they might have been more prone to downplay or ignore Adrian Peterson's injury risk and gone with the RB.

(The nuance here is that I don't think that position-need alone would have been enough for us to draft Levi Brown over any other otherwise available player, but might have been enough to give Levi enough additional rating points to tip the balance slightly toward drafting him over Peterson).

 

[earthsci]

(The nuance here is that I don't think that position-need alone would have been enough for us to draft Levi Brown over any other otherwise available player,...

Like LaRon Landry, Patrick Willis or Marshawn Lynch?

 

[DoTheDew]

It's to early to guess, ask again when the underclassmen have declared.

 

[joeshmo]

It's to early to guess, ask again when the underclassmen have declared.

Yep Jan. 15th is the deadline.

Going by just Seniors it is all about DE/OLB - Larry English.

 

[bg7brd]

Just guessing, but: If the Cards didn't have so huge a hole at offensive tackle, they might have been more prone to downplay or ignore Adrian Peterson's injury risk and gone with the RB.

That coupled with having Edge under contract.

 

[Shogun]

OLB Clint Sintim
OLB Brian Cushing
DT BJ Raji
DE Tyson Jackson
TE Brandon Pettigrew
OL Max Unger
CB Alphonso Smith

And those are just the first round-caliber seniors I think would be available at this point, but it's still too early to play the BPA game.

 

[SuperSpck]

I'd like to know more about Taylor Hayes. What'cha got Shogun?

 

[Shogun]

Taylor Mays is a 6-2, 235 (or more) free safety that draws comparisons to Sean Taylor, although not nearly as good, but still a great prospect in his own right. He should be a combine Hall of Famer (4.28 unofficial 40 time) and plays centerfield as well as anyone. He's a dynamite hitter, but doesn't always wrap up on routine plays. Not as physical as some would lead you to believe. Because he's so big, he might end up growing out of the position. Sean Taylor wasn't nearly as large and struggled with the same thing.

He's lottery bound if things go the way I expect it.

 

[ThunderCard]

Taylor Mays is a 6-2, 235 (or more) free safety that draws comparisons to Sean Taylor, although not nearly as good, but still a great prospect in his own right. He should be a combine Hall of Famer (4.28 unofficial 40 time) and plays centerfield as well as anyone. He's a dynamite hitter, but doesn't always wrap up on routine plays. Not as physical as some would lead you to believe. Because he's so big, he might end up growing out of the position. Sean Taylor wasn't nearly as large and struggled with the same thing.

He's lottery bound if things go the way I expect it.

I would also go for Mays. He Has some great hits, however I would not mind giving Rolle another year. The problem with Mays is his coverage skills sometimes lacks and he looks for the big hits. To me he is a harder hitting Rolle that can also better adjust to the run. I think we need more of a coverage FS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd7m3QtQJus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=augIi76eJ8w

Some other possibilities

My Favorite

Rey Maualuga, ILB

Some others I would consider

OG Duke Robinson
RB Knowshon Moreno
ILB Brandon Spikes
OT Ciron Black,
ILB, James Laurinaitis

I have already seen a lot of conversations about Moreno and I am on the fence as it looks like he does not always have breakaway speed. One thing that is good about this draft, is it's stacked in the trenches and LB's which the Cards really need.

 

[football karma]

I predict with almost 100% certainty that a player that will make several pro bowls in his career will be available when the Cardinals pick.

I just cant tell you his name at this point.

 

[SuperSpck]

I'm curious because Wilson's not a young pup and I'd heard he was an amazing size/speed combination.

Was thinking of a draft pick that would be able to learn on the bench.

 

[JeffGollin]

Keeping an Eye On...

I've only been a spotty college fb viewer, but guys who have caught my eye thus far are:

- George Selvie DE So FL (juniior)
- Jeremiah Johnson RB Oregon
- Rey Malauga MLB USC
- Shonn Green RB Iowa
- Scott McKillop MLB Pitt
- Jeremy Maclin WR Mizzou (soph)
- Percy Harvin WR Florida (junior)
- Michael Crabtree WR Tex Tech (soph)
- Nate Davis QB Ball St (junior)
- James Laurinitis LB Ohio St
- Malcom Jenkins CB Ohio St
- Courtney Green FS Rutgers
- Alex Mack C Cal
- Pat White QB WV
- Larry English Jr DE No Ill
- Darius Butler CB UConn
- Donald Brown RB UConn
- Javon Ringer TB Mich St
- Louis Delmas S W Mich
- Coffman TE Mizzou (not sure how he blocks - love his hands)

For sure, this is an incomplete list; only those guys from the top of my head I remember seeing and being impressed with. (And I kind of think we're unlikely to zero in on the high profile WR's on this list - it's just that these and a couple of other wideouts are simply too good to ignore).

What's interesting, though, is that there are 19 of them which means (that after you factor in sure high 1st rounders not on the list like Stafford and Bradford) at least one of the above dudes will be available for the Cards to draft. (Merry Christmas!)

 

[conraddobler]

BPA is BPA or it's not there is no "modification" for it.

I think the modification for it is called drafting for need which is what they'll do now that DG is gone but they'll call it a modified BPA.

Chase Coffman TE Mizzou would be an awesome choice but he'll never last that long.

If this guy comes up it'd be a great pick there Terrence Cody DT Alabama.

I really think though Alex Mac is made for that pick because as a center people don't properly value the fact he's probably one of the 3 best players in the entire draft, you just don't put centers up that high ever but to me as in a guy I want on my team he's the dude.

 

[DoTheDew]

BPA is BPA or it's not there is no "modification" for it.

I think the modification for it is called drafting for need which is what they'll do now that DG is gone but they'll call it a modified BPA.

Chase Coffman TE Mizzou would be an awesome choice but he'll never last that long.

If this guy comes up it'd be a great pick there Terrence Cody DT Alabama.

I really think though Alex Mac is made for that pick because as a center people don't properly value the fact he's probably one of the 3 best players in the entire draft, you just don't put centers up that high ever but to me as in a guy I want on my team he's the dude.

I think the point is there is pure BPA (Draft the most talented player period) and pure need (draft the most needed position regardless of who else is on the board) and then a hybrid which in this case is look at all positions that can be upgraded on the roster, and draft the player which you think is going to fit your system best and contribute the most. Pure BPA we could end up drafting Crabtree if he somehow slid this year, pure need we might get stuck with a 3rd round talent player in the 1st round. Graves theory almost garentees you get at least talent comparable to where you are picking. Sure you might pass up on elite players from time to time, but you also avoid having 3 or 4 starter caliber players making big bucks and only 1 or 2 starting jobs at that position availible.

 

[CardinalChris]

Like LaRon Landry, Patrick Willis or Marshawn Lynch?

I love when people do this and only name the players who (so far) have worked out for their team. We could have also made a totally different mistake like Carriker, Jamaal Anderson and Ginn (Which would have been Detroit-esque, but the point of the exercise remains the same).

 

[lobo]

I've only been a spotty college fb viewer, but guys who have caught my eye thus far are:
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What's interesting, though, is that there are 19 of them which means (that after you factor in sure high 1st rounders not on the list like Stafford and Bradford) at least one of the above dudes will be available for the Cards to draft. (Merry Christmas!)

A thoughtful list. Last post before I close me basement door, put out a bowl of cptn crunch and crack open a six pack of iron city! In all seriousness the safest pick that surely fills a need AND getting pretty close to instant gratification is Alex Mack...if I were signing the checks I take him if he is around.