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Brandon is playing for the West team in the McDonalds All-American game. First play of the game Brandon throws down a sick alley-oop. Also, Jennings said Bayless told him last week he will be coming back for his sophomore year. If that happens the Cats will be a legit Final Four team.
 

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Brandon is playing for the West team in the McDonalds All-American game. First play of the game Brandon throws down a sick alley-oop. Also, Jennings said Bayless told him last week he will be coming back for his sophomore year. If that happens the Cats will be a legit Final Four team.

I just posted this on another thread :D Didn't know if it needed it's own thread since I didn't find a source online, but it's great news nonetheless.
 

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Only caught a few minutes =( BUT I noticed at NBADraft.net, that Emmanuel Negedu PF (U of A recruit), will be playing at the Hoops Summit game on April 12th. heh


He'll be on the International Team... Brandon wasn't listed for Team USA.


Anywho, that'd be great if Bayless and Hill do come back!
 

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FWIW the UCLA fans on the board I read are just crucifying Jennings for his performance last night. He said he wanted to break the assist record and was passing up shots to try and do that. On the surface it sounds unselfish but when you pass up a layup to try and get an assist and your team winds up not scoring, that hurts the team. When you keep showing up teammates who don't make the shot costing you an assist that seems a bit wrong.

Great talent and I knew he was a hotdog but at times last night he really annoyed me. Didn't play any defense, everytime he came in his man(the guard from New York) immediately would start scoring. There was one play he made a nice pass and started trying to get teh crowd fired up, meanwhile his man ran right by him took a pass for layup. A bit later his man led a 3 on 1 while he was posing after an assist. Jrue Holiday tried to block the shot and wound up getting dunked on but for my money he was at least hustling I'd rather he tried and got dunked on than sat there posing.

I like Jennings alot but the more I see him play the more i hope in a real game he can put all the showboating stuff on the shelf and just play winning basketball? I really haven't seen him do it yet.
 

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FWIW the UCLA fans on the board I read are just crucifying Jennings for his performance last night. He said he wanted to break the assist record and was passing up shots to try and do that. On the surface it sounds unselfish but when you pass up a layup to try and get an assist and your team winds up not scoring, that hurts the team. When you keep showing up teammates who don't make the shot costing you an assist that seems a bit wrong.

Great talent and I knew he was a hotdog but at times last night he really annoyed me. Didn't play any defense, everytime he came in his man(the guard from New York) immediately would start scoring. There was one play he made a nice pass and started trying to get teh crowd fired up, meanwhile his man ran right by him took a pass for layup. A bit later his man led a 3 on 1 while he was posing after an assist. Jrue Holiday tried to block the shot and wound up getting dunked on but for my money he was at least hustling I'd rather he tried and got dunked on than sat there posing.

I like Jennings alot but the more I see him play the more i hope in a real game he can put all the showboating stuff on the shelf and just play winning basketball? I really haven't seen him do it yet.

I wasnt too bothered by the hotdogging, since this has historically been such a throwaway game. It will be interesting to see how he really plays.

I like the kid from Rutgers, passing up bigger programs to play close to home and put them on the map. I might have to track that team next year.
 

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I wasnt too bothered by the hotdogging, since this has historically been such a throwaway game. It will be interesting to see how he really plays.

I like the kid from Rutgers, passing up bigger programs to play close to home and put them on the map. I might have to track that team next year.

THat's how I became a Larry Hughes fan way back he turned down others to go to St. Louis to be near his brother who had a heart condition. His brother Justin wound up with a transplant and passed away a few years ago but I've always pulled for Larry because I knew about that. IN fact one of the teams Hughes turned down was UCLA but when I knew why I had nothing but respect for him.

Kids have a right to go where they want of course but it is nice to see kids now and then make decisions like the kid you mentioned.
 

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Somehow I get the feeling UCLA fan wouldn't be crucifying Jennings as much were he going to be a Bruin next season. All most UCLA fans seem to care about is how hard-nosed a player is and the physicality of his defense, their cult worship of Howland-Ball has become quite obnoxious. God forbid a kid try to have some fun in the fist half of an exhibition game.

Jennings has ridiculous talent and he wins wherever he goes, that's enough for me. And if he decides to play like it's the And 1 game next year in Tucson, well then we may have a couple pretty damn good contingency plans in either Nic Wise or Jerryd Bayless or hopefully both.
 
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Give me a break. It's a friggin' all star game. Of course UCLA fans are ripping Jennings. He's going to UofA.

Does any sane person really think he is going to play that way with Lute on the sidelines?
 

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Give me a break. It's a friggin' all star game. Of course UCLA fans are ripping Jennings. He's going to UofA.

Does any sane person really think he is going to play that way with Lute on the sidelines?

no way lute would stand for that. and jennings has got to know that. that said, i was a little turned off by the showboating, and i'm a cats fan in hoops. usually i think it's fun, but something about his antics last night rubbed me the wrong way. oh, and i thought the mid-air pose as he threw the off-the-glass alley-oop on the breakaway just looked gay.
 

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Give me a break. It's a friggin' all star game. Of course UCLA fans are ripping Jennings. He's going to UofA.

Does any sane person really think he is going to play that way with Lute on the sidelines?


I agree. I guess the problem is I've never seen Jennings play where I really felt like he cared if his team won or not. I really wanted him at UCLA for quite awhile but based on the last 3 times I've seen him play I'm glad he's not a Bruin.

I think he has Isiah level talent he's ridiculously skilled. But I have yet to see him play winning basketball. Adrian Branch said it at half time get in a defensive stance don't stand with your arms at your sides. he's done that everytime I've seen him play.

If you saw his matchup with Derrick Rose last year on ESPN he did the same thing most of the game. It was almost like he was afraid to get outplayed by Rose so he just dogged it so people couldn't say he "lost the matchup" they'd be wondering if he was sick or something.

I will say this, there are a few UCLA fans defending Jennings, it's an all star game, the kid has massive talent. It's not unanimous at all but it's not because Jennings went to Arizona. Look at a USC board they're all saying in hindsight I'm so glad he de-committed.

UCLA passed on him because they knew if they got Holiday they would get 3 guards, if they got Jennings, they wouldn't get Holiday, or Lee, or Anderson.
It wasn't that they disliked Jennings or anything like that they just preferred to try and get 3 guards not one.

I think he was the most talented player in the game last night, I just am not sure he'll turn out to be the best because I've never seen him play hard for more than a few minutes at a time and that's something that's hard to turn on in real games.

I still think the matchups will be fun to watch next year Bayless and Jennings, Westbrook(hopefully) and Jrue.
 

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rather than take this way out into a more UCLA discussion I'll start a thread in the regular college section about it so if people are interested they can post there instead of the uA board.
 

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Whew! UCLA, USC and their fans really dodged a bullet by missing out on the Naismith Player of the Year. :sarcasm:

http://www.naismithawards.com/Press...ssBoxReleaseMarch520082/tabid/77/Default.aspx

I'm sure the criticism by Bruin and Trojan fans has nothing to do with the fact that Jennings picked UA over them. :rolleyes:

Jennings, a 6-0 guard, posted 33 points, 10 steals and eight assists in the Warriors’ 59-48 season-ending victory over Montrose Christian (Md.), as Oak Hill finished the season 34-4. For the season, Jennings averaged 35.5 points per game and amassed 1,312 total points.

I don't know what else Jennings can do to help his team win.
 

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Whew! UCLA, USC and their fans really dodged a bullet by missing out on the Naismith Player of the Year. :sarcasm:

http://www.naismithawards.com/Press...ssBoxReleaseMarch520082/tabid/77/Default.aspx

I'm sure the criticism by Bruin and Trojan fans has nothing to do with the fact that Jennings picked UA over them. :rolleyes:

Jennings, a 6-0 guard, posted 33 points, 10 steals and eight assists in the Warriors’ 59-48 season-ending victory over Montrose Christian (Md.), as Oak Hill finished the season 34-4. For the season, Jennings averaged 35.5 points per game and amassed 1,312 total points.

I don't know what else Jennings can do to help his team win.


You could have an argument with USC fans but not UCLA, they weren't recruiting Jennings after the summer between his soph and junior year. They were actually publicly ripped by recruiting experts like Clark Francis for that very reason. How can they recruit Jerime Anderson over Jennings is Howland crazy?

See my other thread UCLA stopped going for him because they felt the math was better going for Holiday, Lee and Anderson together.

He's a talent for sure. We'll revisit it next season and see how it works out for both parties.

I can't wait to see Bayless and Jennings against Jrue and Westbrook.
 

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not going to happen because UCLA is going to win the championship and Collison, Love, and Westbrook are going to go pro... Mata-Real graduates, who knows what shipp does. Leaving the team basically with Mbabute, who should of gone pro after his freshman season and Roll.

and UCLA will be about as good as WSU was this year. which is obviously still good.

Meanwhile at arizona... the best starting 5 in the country

PG- Jennings
SG- Bayless
SF- Budinger
PF- Hill
C- Withey (39th on rivals, 7 footer)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3iMEoQVflfY
Bench
G- Wise F- Horne F- Negedu (ranked 31 on rivals) G- Johnson
giving us the best bench as well.
 

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not going to happen because UCLA is going to win the championship and Collison, Love, and Westbrook are going to go pro... Mata-Real graduates, who knows what shipp does. Leaving the team basically with Mbabute, who should of gone pro after his freshman season and Roll.

and UCLA will be about as good as WSU was this year. which is obviously still good.

Meanwhile at arizona... the best starting 5 in the country

PG- Jennings
SG- Bayless
SF- Budinger
PF- Hill
C- Withey (39th on rivals, 7 footer)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3iMEoQVflfY
Bench
G- Wise F- Horne F- Negedu (ranked 31 on rivals) G- Johnson
giving us the best bench as well.

Love and Collison for sure. I'm not sure on Westbrook I think anybody who's watched the last 10 games or so can see his shot needs work? 46% over all, 32 from 3, both are way down he was shooting at 40% from 3 about 20 games into the season. Part of it is his ankle, part of it is teams defend him differently now.

He's 19 of his last 64 in his last 5 games that's just under 30%. Great kid and talented but he's a guy without a position right now shooting guards have to shoot better and he's not a polished PG. I would hope he stays you never know. He's certainly less NBA ready offensively than Bayless, he's a much better defender though.

Luc is going to file, but he'll not get a guarantee so who knows, his knee problems aren't helping but basically he's shown all year he's not a 3.

Withey isn't 7 foot, he's listed at 6'11" he's more like 6'10", he's taller than Love for sure but he's no 7 footer. Good shot blocker, can face up and shoot, he's not very strong but he's a much better player than Jacobson he'll contribute right away. Good kid too, he didn't fit at Louisville I'm glad he reneged and went somewhere else much better fit for him.

I seriously doubt all 3 of Bayless, Budinger and hill come back but if they do it's largely because Budinger isn't as good as he was supposed to be and was told he should come back. He got better this year but he's still soft on defense.

The question on UA isn't how much talent they'll have it's how well they'll defend, that's been the problem for the last few seasons people act like Lute had no talent and Ben had a ton of talent. Lute had some bad luck like the injuries to McClellan but it's not like UCLA hasn't had injuries either. The main difference is Ben has been better at recruiting people who fit his system while as Mao says, UA has been recruiting kids who didn't fit because Lute wasn't involved enough.

Jennings has a ton of talent, but he might just be another one of those kids
who seems great now but doesn't fit, we'll see. I don't think he's a mistake mind you I just don't think he impacts the team as much as some people expect, he'll put up numbers but he may not add all that much to the bottom line wins and losses.

But since you were speculating on next years UCLA don't forget Jrue Holiday, Malcolm Lee, Jerime Anderson and Drew Gordon, the #1 rated recruiting class in the nation. Apparently Holiday was chosen the Gatorade HS athlete of the year(like Love last year) but it hasn't been made official yet so not sure on that. He's UCLA's best recruit since Baron Davis, he's better than Love, just not a big.

I think ASU could be very good, I think Oregon and WSU fall quite a bit lost too many seniors. USC who knows the Times said Jefferson's handler says he's staying, now I read on their blog that the guy has already gone back on that statement(the handler not Jefferson). Gibson did the same thing announced at a banquet he was coming back, then told others he was filing for the draft. As usual you can never predict a Tim Floyd team until the roster is actually set.

Stanford will likely lose Brook Lopez, they might even lose Robin but I'm guessing he stays.

Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't you the one 2 years ago who said UA had the best starting 5 in the country?
 

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Meanwhile at arizona... the best starting 5 in the country

PG- Jennings
SG- Bayless
SF- Budinger
PF- Hill
C- Withey (39th on rivals, 7 footer)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3iMEoQVflfY
Bench
G- Wise F- Horne F- Negedu (ranked 31 on rivals) G- Johnson
giving us the best bench as well.

According to the article Lefty posted, the Cats plan on going with 3 guards next year, and going back to an open court attack.
 
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not going to happen because UCLA is going to win the championship and Collison, Love, and Westbrook are going to go pro... Mata-Real graduates, who knows what shipp does. Leaving the team basically with Mbabute, who should of gone pro after his freshman season and Roll.

and UCLA will be about as good as WSU was this year. which is obviously still good.

Meanwhile at arizona... the best starting 5 in the country

PG- Jennings
SG- Bayless
SF- Budinger
PF- Hill
C- Withey (39th on rivals, 7 footer)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3iMEoQVflfY
Bench
G- Wise F- Horne F- Negedu (ranked 31 on rivals) G- Johnson
giving us the best bench as well.


If everyone comes back, this is what Lute told Andy Katz:

Olson's hope is that Bayless, Budinger and Nic Wise are back with the stud class that also includes Brandon Jennings of Oak Hill Academy (Va.).

Olson said the Cats would go with three ballhandlers on the perimeter with Bayless, Jennings and Wise next season. Center Jordan Hill is also expected to return.

"We're going to be good I'll tell you that," Olson said. "This is as good a collection of talent that we've had here."
 

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http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=47100&Sport=2
withey- 7 foot 225

hometown sandiego like Budinger and Horne

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there is a picture of him his junior year of high school... he looks at least 6'11 there next to horne and budinger, and he has probably grown


I saw Withey at an AAU tournament the summer before his senior year and he was just a bit taller than several guys listed at 6'9". Budinger is listed at 6'7", do you really think Withey is 5 inches taller in that pic? Horne is listed at 6'6". Specifically he was playing against Drew Gordon before Gordon got hurt the first time(broken hand) they had the video of it on Bruin Report Online and Withey was just a bit taller than Gordon who's generally listed at 6'8". I'd say 2 inches taller than Drew at best.

Withey is a very good player I think he's better right now than Gordon(better offensively) but he's not a 7 footer unless he grew about 2 inches since I last saw him.

I think he will play a valuable role right away at UA he can block shots and can face up and make open shots. He'll help Hill quite a bit on the inside Hill won't get in as much foul trouble with Withey there to clean up.

Not a great rebounder though that's one area he needed to improve when I saw him wasn't very strong with the ball.
 

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