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Brett Favre should have been a Jet
It would have happened if not for the Cardinals backing out of a deal in '91
Jim Baumbach

12:51 PM EST, January 16, 2008

While fans of the Giants and Packers are dreaming of a trip to the Super Bowl, all this NFC Championship game does for Jets fans is serve as another painful reminder of what might have been.

Brett Favre could have - maybe even should have - been a Jet.

The Jets had a deal with the Cardinals to move up two slots in the 1991 draft -- ahead of the Atlanta Falcons -- so general manager Dick Steinberg could draft their quarterback for the future.

"We were going to pick Brett Favre," Ron Wolf said by phone from his Jupiter, Fla., home Tuesday night. Wolf, now retired, is well known as the Packers general manager who acquired Favre and built a Super Bowl champion, but before he worked in Green Bay he was an assistant in the Jets front office. And he pushed hard to draft Favre in 1991.

"But when it came time for the Cardinals pick, they told us the guy they wanted was on the board, so they didn't do the deal," Wolf said. "They picked their guy, the Falcons picked Brett Favre and that was it."

The Jets, understandably angry and frustrated, had to move on. So they looked down their chart of quarterbacks and took the next one. It was Browning Nagle. Everyone knows how that worked out.

This story is nothing new, especially for Jets fans. Wolf even admitted he bumps into Jets fans from time to time who mention this to him. But seeing Favre all these years later still among the best quarterbacks in the league, preparing his team one win away from another trip to Super Bowl, must just eat away at Jets fans.

"That really is rare for something like that to occur," Wolf said. "When you think you have a deal done, you kind of stop trying to do something, stop trying to make moves. Dick thought he had a deal done. And in the end it just didn't work out."

The Falcons selected Favre with the sixth pick in the second, which was 33rd overall. The Jets, Wolf said, rated Favre as the best player available in the draft. They didn't have a first-round pick -- they took receiver Rob Moore in the supplemental draft the year before -- or else they would have taken Favre there.

"It was not a debate," Wolf said. "I thought he was the best player in the draft that year, 1991, and he's proven that. He's even better than the best pick. He's a rare pick. To me, that was the easy part."

Of course it hurts Jets fans even more when only a year later the Falcons soured on Favre, and Wolf managed to finally land the quarterback he wanted -- only with the Packers, not the Jets. The Packers hired Wolf as their general manager late in the 1991 season, and he said he realized his first day on the job he could get Favre.

That offseason he traded a first-round pick to Atlanta for Favre. He has started 253 straight regular-season games since his first Packers start in 1992.

The Jets, meanwhile, have started Nagle, Boomer Esiason, Frank Reich, Ray Lucas, Rick Mirer, Chad Pennington, Vinny Testaverde, Neil O'Donnell, Quincy Carter, Bubby Brister, Glenn Foley, Brooks Bollinger, Kellen Clemens, Ken O'Brien and Jack Trudeau.

"To me he's one of the greatest players to ever play in the National Football League," Wolf said. "And to have this opportunity in a time of his career when people have said he should hang them up, it's a great, great credit to him and his determination and his ability. I think people tend to underestimate just how good he is, and I'm sure he's just fine with that."

Who knows if Favre as a Jet would have worked out. He even admitted as much in an interview with the Newark Star-Ledger in 1997. "I don't know if I would've been too good in New York," he said. "That's too big a city for me. I like the slow, easy lifestyle. Green Bay is perfect, although the weather is bad. But, you know, all that traffic and stuff, paying $2,000 a month for an apartment. That would kill me. No, New York's a little too big for me."

But, given the alternatives, Jets fans surely would have liked to have seen Favre in green and white.

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5 (32) Phoenix Cardinals Mike Jones Defensive End NC State
6 (33) Atlanta Falcons Brett Favre Quarterback Southern Miss
7 (34) New York Jets Browning Nagle Quarterback Louisville
 

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With the coaches the Jets have had, Bert Favre would have been a disaster.
 

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5 (32) Phoenix Cardinals Mike Jones Defensive End NC State
6 (33) Atlanta Falcons Brett Favre Quarterback Southern Miss
7 (34) New York Jets Browning Nagle Quarterback Louisville

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The Falcons selected Favre with the sixth pick in the second, which was 33rd overall.
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Of course it hurts Jets fans even more when only a year later the Falcons soured on Favre...
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That offseason he traded a first-round pick to Atlanta for Favre.


This obviously worked out to be a great trade, but at the time I would have been calling for Ron Wolf's head.

He trades a 1st round pick for a guy that was drafted a year earlier in the 2nd round who only saw limited playing time. When he did play, his stats (according to NFL.com) were: 4 passing attempts with 0 completions and 2 ints.

Can you imagine the Graves trading our 1st round pick this year to the Eagles for Kevin Kolb? Blood would run in the streets.
 

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This obviously worked out to be a great trade, but at the time I would have been calling for Ron Wolf's head.

He trades a 1st round pick for a guy that was drafted a year earlier in the 2nd round who only saw limited playing time. When he did play, his stats (according to NFL.com) were: 4 passing attempts with 0 completions and 2 ints.

Can you imagine the Graves trading our 1st round pick this year to the Eagles for Kevin Kolb? Blood would run in the streets.

Rolle for Kevin Kolb. I'm listening. :D

Seriously. There are years where QB's are much deeper than the year before, plus he would have a year of experience...
 

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Rolle for Kevin Kolb. I'm listening. :D

Seriously. There are years where QB's are much deeper than the year before, plus he would have a year of experience...

His year of playing experience (0/4 2ints) doesn't help his value. I think QBs can and do improve while riding the pine, but not enough to make this trade seem like a good deal.

I'm not sure what pick in the 1992 1st round they gave up. It had to be fairly high since GB was pretty bad in the late 80s and early 90s IIRC.
 

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His year of playing experience (0/4 2ints) doesn't help his value. I think QBs can and do improve while riding the pine, but not enough to make this trade seem like a good deal.

I'm not sure what pick in the 1992 1st round they gave up. It had to be fairly high since GB was pretty bad in the late 80s and early 90s IIRC.

True, but 4 passes is a pretty small example, especially since one of those balls were tipped right?
 

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One probably was tipped, but I'm pretty sure one of the two incompletes hit a defensive back right in the hands... :)

Since we are talking about Philly receivers, I'd say the other two bounced off their hands....
 

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Mike Joooooones is also the man who made the tackle at the 1 to prevent Kevin Dyson from getting a touchdown in Rams/Titans Super Bowl.
 

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I am thinking that is the linebacker, Mike Jones.
Yes. Different guy. They were both on the Rams the year before but Mike D. Jones, the Mike Jones that the Cards drafted, wasn't on the Rams when they won the Super Bowl.
 

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More to the point would be Farve could have been a Cardinal. :bang:
 

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5 (32) Phoenix Cardinals Mike Jones Defensive End NC State
6 (33) Atlanta Falcons Brett Favre Quarterback Southern Miss
7 (34) New York Jets Browning Nagle Quarterback Louisville

the real irony is that both the falcons and jets were targeting qb's, which meant that the cards could have traded down to the jets spot and STILL gotten mike jones (the dude they wanted) and likely have picked up another draft pick. i may be wrong, but i'll bet there weren't a lot of teams that were going to all of a sudden trade up to the 33rd spot to snag mike jones away from the cards . . . just a hunch. same old cards, even back then.
 

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