Brian Billick on QBs in the draft

[WildBB]

Accuracy is coachable unless there’s a vision or arm strength issue. Clearly Allen has no arm strength issue. It’s typically a throwing motion or setup issue. Occasionally it’s also takes learning to relax in the pocket. Now if you consider accuracy to include properly leading a receiver and ball placement normally repetition with proper technique can significantly improve this. No one is questioning Allen’s athleticism, intelligence or coachability. He likely won’t be an overnight success, but you can’t teach arm strength. He has hard to find other physical characteristics. He’s not a sure thing but I wouldn’t quickly write him off

Yeah, here's a guy who struggled initially and is enshrined in the HOF.

http://www.profootballhof.com/players/john-elway/

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Yeah, here's a guy who struggled initially and is enshrined in the HOF.

http://www.profootballhof.com/players/john-elway/

Yup, his 56% completion percentage took him straight to the HOF. With the way DB rules are now, though, Allen really needs to translate to at least 60%+ to be successful.

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[Buckybird]

Accuracy is coachable unless there’s a vision or arm strength issue. Clearly Allen has no arm strength issue. It’s typically a throwing motion or setup issue. Occasionally it’s also takes learning to relax in the pocket. Now if you consider accuracy to include properly leading a receiver and ball placement normally repetition with proper technique can significantly improve this. No one is questioning Allen’s athleticism, intelligence or coachability. He likely won’t be an overnight success, but you can’t teach arm strength. He has hard to find other physical characteristics. He’s not a sure thing but I wouldn’t quickly write him off

Respect you tremendously Harry but I think accuracy can only slightly be improved. Imo you either have that god given ability or not. It’s all about anticipation & ball location. We shall see but I’m highly skeptical of his future, his 3 year pattern to me outweighs his physical abilities.

Harry, with all respects sir, you might be able to fine tune a guy's throwing motion or stance but you are not going to significantly improve accuracy in my opinion. Now, if he is inaccurate due to difficulties in reading a defense or anticipation, I think you can actually teach that through repetition because it's not directly physical but mental and not rocket science (though for some, even that can take too long for the patience of a NFL franchise). Sometimes it's simply you are surrounded by a crappy supporting group, which can hinder accuracy removed from the QB's actual ability. The first you cannot as much as arm strength unless the team drafting Allen has a time machine and can go back when he first adapted his throwing approach. There has never been a QB who got better with accuracy to my knowledge. Heck, some of it has to do with what you cannot really see as the movement of the wrist and how it comes off the fingers. Sometimes the instincts from hand to eye coordination is just slow enough to not succeed as a pro

This is not baseball, it's a brutal contact sport and a guy cannot go to the 'summer league' and play three hundred football games and improve like a pitcher. Guys are coming in to take your head off regardless of the rules, and your instincts are going to revert to how you have learn since a pup on how to throw the ball while under duress, chaos which Allen cannot even phantom while playing at lowly Wyoming. Allen is not going to become more accurate if it has to do with his form throwing and by improvement, I am talking significant improvement to improve his crapalicious completion ratio from college

For me Ryan Lindley is a great example because it appears he is valued as a quarterback coach by some. The man knows how you are suppose to throw the ball, he teaches QBs. He has more than enough arm strength but yet he cannot change what he is, the bad habits are already in his DNA so to speak, a word our new coach likes a lot. I think Lamar Jackson has a better chance of becoming more accurate than Allen can, because I do not think his accuracy issues are totally arm related... I guess we will find out

Why do Texans think alike lol

 

[Buckybird]

Yeah, here's a guy who struggled initially and is enshrined in the HOF.

http://www.profootballhof.com/players/john-elway/

But He also show pretty good accuracy in college (especially for the era) unlike Allen.

Oh btw he was on some not so great Stanford teams that wasnt loaded in talent either, just like Allen whom many make that excuse for his subpar play last season.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Most believe Allen's accuracy issues are correctable and it is caused by sloppy footwork. I agree somewhat but a lot of it is just natural feel, touch, and ability. It's the same in golf. Some guys have great touch. Others don't. They can get better with practice but much of is it natural ability and when under the gun, most will revert to their natural habits.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I still like the interview when they asked Billick what he would find interesting when people talk about the upcoming season and he responded by having a guy say "we are going suck" instead of saying the cliche "everything's great" lol