Browns tight end Kellen Winslow injured in motorcycle accident

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maddogkf said:
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ok. it was an accident. on a motorcycle. while he is supposed to be healing his broken leg. it wasn't a car accident.

see russ' post

April 13th to be exact Crennel had to come out and deny reports that Winslow's leg might never heal. he said that in his opinion Winslow was on schedule even if he was slightly behind the original rehab schedule, because Crennel said he had to have another surgery and that set him back.

Crennel said Winslow was leading the pack in offseason workouts. ''I don't believe there's anything we should be concerned about. I think he's on course with his rehab. We anticipate a full recovery.'' Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer

So Crennel said he was on schedule as per the latest schedule but I would seriously doubt anybody knew he was going riding bikes with buddies as part of his rehab.
 
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Russ Smith said:
April 13th to be exact Crennel had to come out and deny reports that Winslow's leg might never heal. he said that in his opinion Winslow was on schedule even if he was slightly behind the original rehab schedule, because Crennel said he had to have another surgery and that set him back.

Crennel said Winslow was leading the pack in offseason workouts. ''I don't believe there's anything we should be concerned about. I think he's on course with his rehab. We anticipate a full recovery.'' Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer

So Crennel said he was on schedule as per the latest schedule but I would seriously doubt anybody knew he was going riding bikes with buddies as part of his rehab.

:thumbup: good info as always
 

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wow, somewhere on there they said since he did not play much last season, it caused his contract to be reduced by 11 million. (escalators not being met?)...and now this.

I'm glad he didn't kill himself, and he has a right to "have a life", but there are plenty of fun things to do which won't endanger your life or career.

Motorcycles is one of the most dangerous activities to take up. Went searching and found this

http://healthlink.mcw.edu/article/1031002245.html
"There was also a marked jump in the motorcycle death rate, from 21 deaths per 100 million estimated vehicle miles traveled on motorcycles in 1997 to 33.4 deaths per 100 million miles in 2001 – an increase of more than 50%. The NHTSA notes that passenger car riders have a death rate of 1.3 per 100 million miles, a fraction of the risk of motorcyclists." "

and this from....
http://www.onlinelawyersource.com/personal_injury/motorcycle/statistics.html
"Motorcycle accidents are more likely to occur at night-with an increased number of fatal crashes occurring after dark as well (motorcycle accident statistics show that 60% of all fatalities happened at night)
Nearly half of all motorcycle operators involved in fatal crashes were speeding
Around 80% of all motorcycle accidents end in injury or death
Motorcycle operators involved in fatal crashes had higher intoxication rats than drivers of any other type of vehicle involved in a fatal accident
"

and finally....
http://www.webbikeworld.com/Motorcycle-Safety/crash.htm

"Motorcycle Fatalities Increasing: Read the October 2001full report "Fatal Single Vehicle Motorcycle Crashes" (DOT HS 809 360) from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA); a study recently conducted on motorcycle accidents and safety

Here's a summary of NHTSA DOT HS 809 360:

Single vehicle motorcycle crashes account for about 45 percent of all motorcyclist fatalities. More than 38,000 motorcyclists have died in single vehicle motorcycle crashes between 1975 and 1999. The report claims to provide data for insight into possible causes for these fatalities. According to the report, from 1990 through 1999, there were a total of 11,038 fatal single vehicle motorcycle crashes. During that same time period, there were an estimated 294,000 non-fatal single vehicle motorcycle crashes. Of these, an estimated 39,000 involved property damage only and 255,000 involved injuries. Motorcyclist fatalities in single vehicle motorcycle crashes decreased each year from 1990 to 1996, reaching a historic low of 937 in 1996 and again in 1997. In 1998, the fatalities increased to 1,042 (11.2 percent increase); in 1998 and in 1999 they increased to 1,140 (9.4 percent). The overall increase in motorcyclist fatalities from 1997 to 1999 was 203 (21.7 percent).

Report Conclusions: Findings from the FARS (Fatality Analysis Reporting System) data illustrate possible reasons for motorcyclist fatalities in single vehicle motorcycle crashes:

Helmet use among fatally injured motorcyclists below 50 percent
More motorcyclist fatalities are occurring on rural roads
High blood alcohol levels are a major problem among motorcycle operators
Half of the fatalities are related to negotiating a curve prior to the crash
Over 80 percent of the fatalities occur off roadway
Undivided roadways account for a majority of the fatalities
Almost two thirds of the fatalities were associated with speeding as an operator contributing factor in the crash
Almost 60 percent of motorcyclist fatalities occur at night
Collision with a fixed object is a significant factor in over half of the fatalities
Braking and steering maneuvers possibly contribute for almost 25 percent of the fatalities
More riders age 40 and over are getting killed
Almost one third of the fatally injured operators did not have a proper license
1998 Motorcycle Facts:
2,284 motorcyclists died and approximately 49,000 were injured in highway crashes in the United States.
Per mile traveled in 1998, a motorcyclist is approximately 16 times more likely to die in a crash than an automobile occupant. And 3x (times) as likely to be injured.
Head injury is a leading cause of death in motorcycle crashes.
In 1998, 46% of fatally injured motorcycle drivers were not wearing helmets at the time of the crash.
NHTSA estimates that motorcycle helmets reduce the likelihood of a fatality by 29% in a crash.
In 1998, 41% of all motorcycle drivers involved in fatal crashes were speeding.
Nearly one out of five motorcycle drivers (18%) involved in fatal crashes in 1998 was operating with an invalid license at the time of the collision.
Motorcycle drivers involved in fatal crashes in 1998 had higher intoxication rates than any other type of motor vehicle driver at 31%.
In 1998, 500 motorcyclists lives were saved due to helmet usage; 307 could have been saved. "


Kinda funny when you think of how sports stars will hold out for more $$$ when that amount could be in the tens to hundreds of thousands dollars range.. (and millions sometimes).

But then KW *could* have lost 11 million from last years leg injury, and then continues to endanger his career and his $$$$. Wow

If its worth it to hold out for more money...Isn't it worth it to make sure you get it by doing a few things which may 'limit' your lifestyle, like motorcycling????

I guess he didn't learn from his mistake. But even with his 11 wonderlic, I bet he will learn a lesson this time. This has to be the straw that broke the camel's back for him. It must suck to be a browns fan right now, so I'm glad I'm a card fan :) (proceeds to knock on wood)
 

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CF88, those motorcycle stats you listed are probably grossly inflated due to the Hells Angels. :D
 

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Thanks for that post 88. In 1975, the night my friend flipped my MGB and broke my neck, I was flown by chopper to the Naval hospital in Richmond, Virginia.

There were 14 of us admitted that night. Me, a guy cut in half by the launch wire on an aircraft carrier, and 12 motorcycle crash victims. Of the 12, 6 died, 4 lived with brain damage, 2 recovered fully.

Motorcycles kill too many.
 

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FWIW, Len Pasquerelli said there are some rumors of rib damage.

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Skkorpion said:
Thanks for that post 88. In 1975, the night my friend flipped my MGB and broke my neck, I was flown by chopper to the Naval hospital in Richmond, Virginia.

There were 14 of us admitted that night. Me, a guy cut in half by the launch wire on an aircraft carrier, and 12 motorcycle crash victims. Of the 12, 6 died, 4 lived with brain damage, 2 recovered fully.

Motorcycles kill too many.




Two years ago on Good Friday, I was walking to my car on lunch break and I heard a motorcycle engine being heavily revved. As I turn my head, I see this dude on a Kawasaki pass a car on the right side and BOOOOOM!!

The Kawasaki did not see a car turning left into the paking lot as he tried to pass.

The Motorcylce tumbles across the road about 75 yards and comes to a stop. I look over to the street and I see the dude who rode the Kawasaki lying ing the middle of the street with his arm over his head. His Helmet had SHATTERED!!! and his head was bleeding.

As I sprinted toward him and tried to call 911 (my cell batteries died in the middle of dialing) I noticed he is not moving, and as I got closer, I notice that he was cut in half and his innards were all over the street!

Needless to say, I totally :barf:

I will never buy a motorcycle, EVER!!!
 
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Motorcycle experiences from me & people I kow:
  1. I fell off the back of a motorcycle in a fraternity house parking lot, going 25 mph. I cracked my tailbone & it has never been right since
  2. Another guy was cut off by a car, had to drop his bike. Walks with a limp ever since. Was a state contender in wrestling. Now he has trouble walking
  3. Fraternity brother was killed RIP Roland Kamahale :(
  4. Guy I knew from high school got in a wreck with his wife on back. She'll never be fully mobile.
  5. Guy that used to work with my wife lost his leg. Cycle cop, going 30 mph. Car came out of a parking lot & clipped him.
Just too much crap for me....this doesn't include the guys who had broken arms & legs from "near misses." At one time there were 14 guys in my college fraternity that had cycles. All but 2 crashed them within a 4 year period. Not one has one now. Only 1 died.
 

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CF88, those motorcycle stats you listed are probably grossly inflated due to the Hells Angels. :D

Actually, those stats are inflated by guys riding crotch rockets like the CBRs and the YZFs. Harley & cruiser riders are actually pretty damn safe. I see it every day in the insurance quotes I do.
 
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Actually, those stats are inflated by guys riding crotch rockets like the CBRs and the YZFs. Harley & cruiser riders are actually pretty damn safe. I see it every day in the insurance quotes I do.

yeah, that's what all the guys rode in college - yamaha 1000 crotch rockets or the like
 

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Russ Smith said:
To be out riding a motorcycle in that situation is just plain careless IMHO, and with the helmet not fastened he's lucky he didn't suffer a head injury.

This is the dumbest part imho. My wife's cousin died due to a head injury while riding a bike. All because he didn't have a helmet strapped on.
 

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This is the dumbest part imho. My wife's cousin died due to a head injury while riding a bike. All because he didn't have a helmet strapped on.


Yep, If you are not going to strap the helmet to your head you might as well not wear one.
 

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After my accident it took me a little while to find the nerve to get on the bike. I had just come face to face with my mortality, and to be honest, I was a little jittery. But then I figured, what the hell.

It's the same reason I used to ride bulls. Yeah, it's dangerous, but it's a thrill that I enjoy.

Besides, I already know how I'm gonna meet my maker.....gonna get shot by a young jealous husband when I'm 55. It's in my Karma. :D
 

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maddogkf said:
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ok. it was an accident. on a motorcycle. while he is supposed to be healing his broken leg. it wasn't a car accident.

see russ' post

Doing 35 in a parking lot. Without his helemtt on. It was not the wisest of choices.
 

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It's the same reason I used to ride bulls. Yeah, it's dangerous, but it's a thrill I enjoy :D

I hear ya, it's the only way to travel. My favorite thing to do in my 20's was to put some camping gear on the back of the bike and head for the Rockies.

I rode bikes for over 25 years. Never had an accident and some of it was pure luck. My uncle, a motorcycle cop and dirt biker, taught me how to ride and he really put me through it when I was a kid.

Motorcycle accidents usually happen because of two things - 1. untrained or foolish riders running into a little adversity and 2. other vehicle drivers.

Most people aren't trained to ride properly, don't understand riding in various road/weather conditions, can't make themselves 'seen', can't handle obstacles, can't really control their bikes, can't resist riding like idiots or refuse to wear safty equipment. I'm amazed at how many riders don't understand how important it is to let their tires warm up or to keep their bike in good condition.

But the biggest reason I was lucky was because I managed to avoid car drivers. Most things about riding are within your own control but there's no way to control those damn car drivers. If you ride in traffic long enough, they'll get you sooner or later. I just stopped riding before my time came. And I quit when I couldn't ride away from traffic any longer. Scariest riding I ever experienced was in parking lots.

Also, road rage on a bike is a bad idea. Everything else out there is bigger than you.
 

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Team says Winslow's injuries aren't 'life-threatening'

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CLEVELAND -- Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. complained of chest pains after he was injured in a motorcycle accident, but the team said his injuries aren't life-threatening.

Winslow was riding in a community college parking lot Sunday when he hit a curb at about 35 mph and was thrown from the motorcycle, Westlake police Lt. Ray Arcuri said.

Winslow was taken by ambulance to Fairview Hospital and was transferred to the Cleveland Clinic on Monday where the team's medical staff would treat him, Browns spokesman Bill Bonsiewicz said.

One team source told ESPN.com late Monday that Browns officials are "particularly concerned" about potential damage to Winslow's right knee. The extent of the injury, and the possibility of structural damage that could sideline Winslow for an extended period, likely will not be determined until swelling in the knee subsides.

There is also swelling in Winslow's right shoulder.

"He went over the handlebars and was real evasive about what the injuries were," Arcuri said.

The 21-year-old Winslow had minor visible injuries. He was wearing a helmet, but it wasn't strapped on and flew off his head, Arcuri said. He landed in a landscaped area at the edge of the parking lot, falling hard enough to tear out a small tree.

He and four other men were riding motorcycles in the parking lot, not far from Winslow's home in suburban Cleveland. There was no alcohol involved, Arcuri said.

"The four gentlemen said he was testing the bike out learning to ride," Arcuri said.

The availability of Winslow for the 2005 season is not the only thing at risk, writes ESPN senior writer Len Pasquarelli. Beyond the injuries, there are possible financial ramifications as well, and Winslow may have given the team an opportunity to recover a portion of his signing bonus and option bonus, if he is found to be in breach of his contract.

Section 3 of the NFL's standard player contract stipulates, in part, that a "player will not engage in ... any activity other than football which may involve a significant risk of personal injury. ... Player therefore agrees that club will have the right ... to enjoin the player from engaging in any activity other than football which may involve a significant risk of injury."

But two league sources said Monday night that Winslow's contract includes language which is even more specific and limiting, and which expressly forbids riding a motorcycle. Many teams include such specific language in the "riders" or addendums to contracts, especially those involving high-round draft choices. An agent who negotiated the contracts of some high-round Cleveland draft choices in recent years said the Browns routinely include such restrictions.

If the Winslow contract indeed includes such language, the Browns could seek to recoup a prorated share of the $6 million signing bonus Winslow received last year and perhaps the entire $4.4 million option bonus he was paid on March 1 of this year.

Winslow purchased the 2005 Suzuki GSX-R750 last month. He could face charges of reckless operation and operating without a valid driver's license because he didn't have a learner's permit, Arcuri said.

The first-round draft pick missed nearly all of his rookie year with the Browns after breaking his right leg against Dallas in Week 2 while attempting to recover an onside kick in the final seconds.

Winslow had five receptions for 50 yards in his first two pro games.

He has had two operations on the leg and said in March that he expected it to be fully healed for this season. Winslow signed a six-year, $40 million contract with the Browns, but lost a $5.3 million bonus because of the leg injury.

Information from ESPN.com senior NFL writer Len Pasquarelli and The Associated Press was used in this report.
 

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For the record, I'm a rider too, since 1972. I love it, and always will.

Ill pour more gas on the fire:

Browns | Winslow Stands to Lose Money - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 2 May 2005 19:47:07 -0700

Adam Schefter, reports for NFL.com, Cleveland Browns TE Kellen Winslow Jr. stands to lose a good deal of money because of his recent motorcycle accident. His incentive-laden, six-year, $40 million contract is littered with language that forbids "hazardous activities" such as motorcycling. The team could possibly ask Winslow to return the $4.4 million option bonus they paid him March 1, as well as a significant portion of the $6 million signing bonus they paid him last year. His contract also has salary escalators which he may not be able to obtain, depending on how long his injuries keep him sidelined.
 

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