Bucks @ Suns Tuesday Finals game thread 7-6-2021 - Game 1

[Muggz]

To be fair Crowder had his work cut out for him on D tonight. I think Monte told him to guard Giannis on both sides of the floor lol.
He's a lil bit smaller than the guys he has to guard ( just 50lbs and a solid foot shorter). He did well just wasn't making his shot.
Who else could do better on that bench? Frank?
I agree it was frustrating at times but I know we are better with him out there than not.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

That's better than the "watch the game bro" stuff.

His play was utterly frustrating to watch tonight despite admittedly decent defense

It is hard to credit decent defense to a guy who multiple times just didn't box out.

If Ayton had this game he would be excoriated

There are different expectations - as is appropriate - for Ayton (6’11, athletically superior #1 pick) than for crowder (high tier role player). Kind of a silly argument.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

There are different expectations - as is appropriate - for Ayton (6’11, athletically superior #1 pick) than for crowder (high tier role player). Kind of a silly argument.

Apparently not since I am not excusing a bad game by Crowder

 

[82CardsGrad]

We won despite him not because of him

The teams functioned as a unit better with him on the floor. Yes, it would’ve been icing on this cake had he made some buckets. But we won… And even with his crappy shooting, Crowder was able to contribute.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I can’t believe y’all are bickering this much after we just won our first home Finals game is 45 YEARS.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Again the not watching the game stuff...

It just makes the whole discussion pointless

As does your general denial of the job crowder did at one end of the court. There are two ends. They both count. Crowder was awful shooting. It happens to him. Thankfully it didn’t hurt us tonight. Hopefully next game his shot returns.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I can’t believe y’all are bickering this much after we just won our first home Finals game is 45 YEARS.

Sunshine and Rainbows for sure. Hopefully I watch the next game

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Zero assists zero steals. 2nd on the team in turnovers

The whole “2nd on the team” argument is flat out stupid when they are all low numbers. Try again with a better argument.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Apparently not since I am not excusing a bad game by Crowder

That makes no sense.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Apparently not since I am not excusing a bad game by Crowder

Wait, who had the MOST turnovers and shot 38% and 1-8 from 3? That looks like a pretty bad game . . .

 

[Chris_Sanders]

As does your general denial of the job crowder did at one end of the court. There are two ends. They both count. Crowder was awful shooting. It happens to him. Thankfully it didn’t hurt us tonight. Hopefully next game his shot returns.

I have said he had a decent defensive game, didn't score, had bad turnovers, and didn't box out well enough despite 33 minutes of play.

So decent defense is admittedly objective

I will say he played great defense and discount the rebounding. Everything after that is straight fact

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Wait, who had the MOST turnovers and shot 38% and 1-8 from 3? That looks like a pretty bad game . . .

Ah I don't just look at one aspect of the game to say who had a good or bad game.

But Yessir if I was only looking at a small part of a game, that's a TERRIBLE game.

Thank you

 

[Chris_Sanders]

The whole “2nd on the team” argument is flat out stupid when they are all low numbers. Try again with a better argument.

What other number besides assist to turnover ratio would you like me to pick?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I have said he had a decent defensive game, didn't score, had bad turnovers, and didn't box out well enough despite 33 minutes of play.

So decent defense is admittedly objective

I will say he played great defense and discount the rebounding. Everything after that is straight fact

2 TOs tends not to be a killer. 9 boards against bigger opposition is what we need on the boards. And he played really good defense, not just “decent.” He contributed to the win. Did he lead it? Not by a country mile. But defense from your role players wins championships.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

What other number besides assist to turnover ratio would you like me to pick?

By your argument: If we had a single TO as a team and he had it you’d argue it was terribke bc he had all our TOs (even though it really obviously wouldn’t impact any normal game). It’s just an ineffective method of argumentation.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Again I can say he had a great defensive game despite not boxing out 4 times, which is totally part of defense but yes it's not now.

Hopefully I can watch his next amazing game

 

[Cheesebeef]

Oh my lord... will you guys agree to disagree already and move on! You guys are almost as bad the ABC Post Game show!

 

[Mainstreet]

Kudos to Ayton's receptiveness to Booker and Paul constantly talking in his ear giving him instruction.

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Again I can say he had a great defensive game despite not boxing out 4 times, which is totally part of defense but yes it's not now.

Hopefully I can watch his next amazing game

Lol. Okay Chris. Try to enjoy this horrid performance.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Oh my lord... will you guys agree to disagree already and move on!

I might have moved on if I wasn't admittedly super p issed off after 10 years of suffering it was stated I didn't watch the finals.

You can disagree but don't pretend you care more than I do

 

[Covert Rain]

Great win. Despite some defensive lapses leading to easy buckets the team played the passing lanes great. Crowder and his toughness was huge. Guarding Giannis is next to impossible. Ayton was a beast and our guard play continues to dominate. CP3 is possessed.

Game 2 is critical to hold court and massive amount of pressure will be on the Bucks at home if they go down 0-2.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Lol. Okay Chris. Try to enjoy this horrid performance.

How will I between not watching and p iss breaks?

 

[AZCrazy]

One guy had a rough game. Everyone else was nails. It was a huge win. Next game Crowder will be fine. Maybe someone else will have a tough time and his team will pick him up.

That game was awesome.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I can't believe it still. Is this real? After playing the Clippers playing the Bucks actually feels like basketball.

this team is amazing

 

[Hoop Head]

The Bucks can't match our output when our 3 stars are on. They have Middleton and Giannis to counter with and that's not enough. I know they have Holiday but he's not a star. He's a great defender but he's not a very good PG, which is why the Pelicans sucked more often than not while he was there. When they did win, he was playing SG.