OK. You do realize that was the best team in the league that we were in the game with all night when we shot a pretty lousy percentage from the field.
Yeah, it's called superstar treatment - and it's probably the main reason you need a superstar to win a title. The good news is we now have one of them.
Jock is more skilled than Javale and that trumps whatever mojo McGee provided.
Offensively maybe but not defensively. McGee to me was better on the pick and roll and getting alley oops from Paul etc. Jock maybe has a more consistent hook shot. However, nobody is intimated by Jock on the block. Nobody is worried about Jock's physicality.
Agree. If we have Durant and pretty good health that series would be a battle.
Disagree. (A) Jock isn’t that much more skilled. People have already forgotten how effectively Javale was scoring last season. And jock misses a lot of layups and is an atrocious three point shooter and keeps jacking them up. He’s also a poor defender. (B) the toughness we miss with combination of mcgee and crowder pervaded the entire team. Sometimes the sum is greater than the individual parts. I think this is one of those scenarios.
I mean you’re talking about three dudes who are physically large, have ballhandling skills and aggressive mindsets. Yeah they’re going to go to the line a LOT. Do they get there more often than they deserve? Tough to tell as Giannis takes a lot of physicality, but he also gets away with offensive fouls, that’s my frustration.
Did you guys just conveniently forget that Javale was UNPLAYABLE in the playoffs??
You guys are arguing about which turd is the best coiled of the two.
Agree. Drawing contact isn't rocket science. Particularly for an athletic big who can shoot and plays primarily against big lugs. Pump fair and two dribbles into a defender should draw a foul every time. But he’d have to do it a LOT to shed his “shies away from contact” reputation. I think at present the default is to give the defender the benefit of the doubt against Ayton bc refs know he generally tries to avoid contact. He has to work to get them to change that perception.
(A) he wasn’t unplayable against the Pels. (B) You are completely missing the point we are making.
Lol. Kinda true. But I’m more focused on the attitude mcgee had helped create with the team overall, not his play.
No I'm not. You don't have a McGee strictly because he gets the guys worked up before a game. Because that's all he does this year. He was unplayable against the Pels and again against the Mavs. He was a walking foul collector and didn't wow when doing his rim protection, which you seem to think he can do. Dallas is showing he's not even playable in the regular season anymore.
Yes you are. That's not why we had McGee. He brought legit toughness to the lineup and that was valuable when Ayton went to the bench. I think you are forgetting all the national commentary on what a good pick up that was for the Suns because they lost very little in terms of physicality when Ayton went to the bench. He was a big part of how deep this team was.
Yeah you're right. After all, with McGee we won a title, so... Oh. Wait.
That's not the flex you think it is. If the team wins a title this year it will be because of KD not because Jock replaced McGee. That really doesn't invalidate anything McGee brought last year. Jock is struggling in the regular season to bring any physical presence. How do you think that will translate in the playoffs?!!?
Huh? Where did I ever say, even a little bit, that Jock replacing McGee is a deciding factor in the playoffs? That is so far out of left field it’s ridiculous.
You mean out of left field by equating McGee and not winning a title?!?! OK.
Stop moving the goalposts. We're not comparing McGee to Jock, never were.
What?!?!!? They play the same position. We subtracted McGee and replaced with Jock. The team definitely is not as tough as last season. What sparked this debate was losing Crowder & McGee and the toughness they brought. @Ouchie-Z-Clown brought it up and you dismissed McGee's contribution to that.
That was one of the most ridiculous no calls I have seen in a long time.
We're not as tough, but I DON'T THINK MCGEE IS THE REASON FOR THAT. Not sure if the capital letters will help you, but probably not. Have a good day.
