Burfict fails drug test

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So we take a flyer on this loser because he was "expected" to a high draftee - even though he's proven on and off the field to be nothing but a disaster? I asked "what has he done"??

While he certainly hasn't lived up to expectations, you're hyperbole is a little much here.

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While he certainly hasn't lived up to expectations, you're hyperbole is a little much here.

2010 All-American (TSN)
2010 Pac-10 Defensive MVP (TSN)
2009 Freshman All-American (FWAA, CFN)
2009 Pac-10 Defensive Freshman of the Year

2011: Nothing
2012: Not shaping up so great either
 

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While he certainly hasn't lived up to expectations, you're hyperbole is a little much here.

2010 All-American (TSN)
2010 Pac-10 Defensive MVP (TSN)
2009 Freshman All-American (FWAA, CFN)
2009 Pac-10 Defensive Freshman of the Year


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People forget though he played nowhere like that in 2011.

He played like he was shellshocked. His head was gone (on the field, defensive wise). Besides everything else, most people don't realize this or are imo under-weighting this. His head isn't in the game anymore, he takes all his crazy antics onto the field inside his head and it has destroyed his ability to play, and apparently exercise. He doesn't just react, because his reactions are idiotic. So he has to think, and he is incapable of doing that off the field, let alone on it.

In the beginning I was licking my chops at hoping the Cards would get him someday. His play last year dropped off so far it was unbelievable (and I actually noticed it in 2010 and thought the 2010 accolades were more off his 2009 potential...not that he actually warranted the 2010 accolades).

How often have you seen a guy whose play on the field, nothing regarding injuries, went from All American to not even conference honorable mention?

I understand the whole, he's shown something, thus he should be worth a shot, but for a second even excluding everything else, his play last year simply doesn't warrant anything. He flat out sucked last year.

He was late on everything. Any time he wasn't late, he wasn't late because he jumped offsides. He was backpeddling instead of attacking. His head didn't seem to be in the game at all. Not one bit. His instincts were going the wrong way almost 100 percent of the time.

I can understand bad seasons, but what he had was one of the worst seasons a college lb can have, sans personal fouls and everything else.

Those awards were won before the word was out and everybody just groupthinked him into the accolades, before he mind screwed himself, and when he had at least a college football body. Now he has a body that any other person has. That doesn't work in the NFL. He doesn't have football instincts anymore. His head has destroyed them.

I totally understand where you are coming from, I just totally think everything has crumbled since that point (actually 1/2 a season before that), and instead of something to salvage, I see him still sinking and probably far farther than what he already has. The proverbial bleeding hasn't stopped, the wound has been opened further.

I really think he's a prime candidate for death in some form as his nightmare if not drafted and doesn't make a team as a UDFA, which is now entirely possible and probable, has only begun. I don't want this. I wish him the best of luck, though I know wishing doesn't change anything, and the guy we see before us is a guy whose life is self-destructing, and people whose lives self destruct are generally the ones that you find lying in the gutter, or lands him in jail, or just lives a miserable existence as a hardcore drug user. His psyche, which he continues to show how fragile it is, is about to be destroyed, and I pity the man. No degree, no brain, and the NFL at the most will give him one no leniency chance. He just doesn't strike me as a guy who can accept a fall all the way to asking 'would you like fries with that'...if he could even do that.
 
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2011: Nothing
2012: Not shaping up so great either

I think I pretty clearly stated I wouldn't spend a draft pick on him. Doesn't mean I wouldn't take a chance on him as a UDFA. The guy has talent, just needs to get his head on straight. Some do, some don't.

The risk is low, if he's a malcontent, cut him with no repercussions. If he does live up to his talent, he could be a pretty good player.
 

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I don't know, there are only so many roster spots to go around (now 2,880). Not sure he's shown anything in the last 2 years to show he deserves one of those spots.
 

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He has fallen like crazy, and as a diehard ASU fan he was way more frustrating than good during his time at ASU..

All that said he has the P word up the wazzoo, and some team will take a flyer on his between the 4th-6th rounds because of it...
 

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I'm just thrilled that he's no longer a Sun Devil.
 

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wouldn't draft him, but I would sign him undrafted and see if there's any way we could make him work on this team
 

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While he certainly hasn't lived up to expectations, you're hyperbole is a little much here.

2010 All-American (TSN)
2010 Pac-10 Defensive MVP (TSN)
2009 Freshman All-American (FWAA, CFN)
2009 Pac-10 Defensive Freshman of the Year

2011: Nothing
2012: Not shaping up so great either

I think I pretty clearly stated I wouldn't spend a draft pick on him. Doesn't mean I wouldn't take a chance on him as a UDFA. The guy has talent, just needs to get his head on straight. Some do, some don't.

The risk is low, if he's a malcontent, cut him with no repercussions. If he does live up to his talent, he could be a pretty good player.

I agree with Chris. It looks to me like something might have happened (or developed) after the 2010 season that seriously damaged the guy. If it's a mental thing that can be treated, there's a chance he could return to being the impact player he was in 2009 and 2010. If you're an NFL team, why not take a chance and see? You don't lose much if you sign him as a UDFA.

Regardless, though, I hope he can get his life straightened out. This is a very sad story. :(
 

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I'm a Uof A fan but I don't cheer against ASU was happy when he signed with them coming out of highschool was supposed to be an absolute stud, I never saw that transfer to the field even with the accolades. At best IMO he was a bigtime hyped player that got ASU some pub. but not much else, wasn't even the best LB on that defense anytime I watched. I don't want him even if he would pay us to play!
 

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What irritates me is not so much that he got high. It's against the law, granted, so is littering and speeding and all kinds of crap. People choose which laws they're going to obey, generally. What annoys me about it is that he had to know he was going to be tested. Had to know. You'd have to be a complete idiot not to know. Yet he couldn't recognize his one moment and stop for a couple months to pass his test. He couldn't look ahead in his own future and decide to stop. Even if it's just for those couple months. Ridiculous. I mean, for anyone who likes to get high, but has promise in some area, can't you at least look ahead and say to yourself, "Self, don't be an idiot, if you quit for a few months you can make bank and buy huge heaping gigantic bags of weed." But he couldn't do that. That makes him not only totally ridiculously stupid beyond belief, but it shows that he doesn't realize the big moment nor can he even control himself.

I don't even care how good this kid is on the field, I totally don't care. Being busted for weed (or whatever it was) isn't the worst thing in the world, but when you've been busted and re-busted and then re-busted you're just an idiot. It shows you don't care, shows you have no foresight whatsoever, which frankly is essential in the NFL (you can't go on a losing spree and go in the tank), and it shows you don't even care about the dudes around you vouching for you and trying to get you an NFL gig. If he doesn't care about those dudes, when it's his one big huge shot, he's not going to care about his teammates. Don't care if it's Fitz or Dockett, he won't care. He's too stupid.

Last thing the dude needs is an NFL job where it's more prevalant and where he'll have the money (and women are a huge influence in the NFL, chicks make us stupid, or at least our love of chicks do) to do more damage to himself and those around him. He's undraftable.
 
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This reminds me of when Leon Spinks got busted for possessing $3 worth of cocaine.
 

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Yeah but dude when there's only $3 bucks left you just know he snorted the rest of it. It's like having a used condom in your house when the wife gets home and you're like, "I didn't do nothing. Swear."
 

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I agree with Chris. It looks to me like something might have happened (or developed) after the 2010 season that seriously damaged the guy. If it's a mental thing that can be treated, there's a chance he could return to being the impact player he was in 2009 and 2010. If you're an NFL team, why not take a chance and see? You don't lose much if you sign him as a UDFA.

Regardless, though, I hope he can get his life straightened out. This is a very sad story. :(

which Chris? Just kidding. I hope he gets it together, but I would rather him try to work out his issues on another squad.
 

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I agree with Chris. It looks to me like something might have happened (or developed) after the 2010 season that seriously damaged the guy. If it's a mental thing that can be treated, there's a chance he could return to being the impact player he was in 2009 and 2010. If you're an NFL team, why not take a chance and see? You don't lose much if you sign him as a UDFA.

Regardless, though, I hope he can get his life straightened out. This is a very sad story. :(


Hasn't he always been a troubled kid? Wasn't he passed up by USC because of his "issues"?? :shrug:
 

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Hasn't he always been a troubled kid? Wasn't he passed up by USC because of his "issues"?? :shrug:

No. Pete Carroll said losing Burfect to ASU, right from their own back yard, was one of the most frustrating things during his tenure at USC (said obviously before his NCAA issues arose).

I look at Burfect a lot like Ricky Williams. Both suffer from some sort of social anxiety issues - and both are talented enough that, if a team can get them to focus - they'll make great players for a long time.

Ricky eventually found his way. I think Burfect will too, but it's going to take some time. I'd take him in the 6th and limit him to special teams or even the Practice squad for a year.

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I see Burfict as 100x the headcase Ricky Williams was. Ricky never was a problem on the field, it was just off the field laws that forced Ricky to make a decision, and he made a unique one. Totally different, even if there are some similarities with mental issues.
 

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I look at Burfect a lot like Ricky Williams. Both suffer from some sort of social anxiety issues - and both are talented enough that, if a team can get them to focus - they'll make great players for a long time.

Ricky eventually found his way. I think Burfect will too, but it's going to take some time. I'd take him in the 6th and limit him to special teams or even the Practice squad for a year.
Mehhh. Ricky Williams wasn't a Personal Foul machine. If he was on the field he was helping his team out.

That said, I wouldn't be too upset if we spent a 7th or signed him as a UDFA. I do think that between Dockett, Campbell, Wilson and others they could get him a little more under control.
 

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I hope people that want to pick him up remember this

"The Republic has confirmed an altercation, but with different details. According to a source, Burfict waited for Ozier in the locker room. He threw a punch, Ozier threw a punch and the fight was broken up. According to sources, neither player was injured.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/sports/asu...fict-punch-teammate-report.html#ixzz1tB1wbBdZ "

I know people get into fights every camp, with the vast majority being in the heat of the moment on the field. But to wait for someone like a psycho in the locker room? Again he outweighed the guy by 60 lbs or so and also a few inches. Last thing we need is someone stalking one of our players.

I think I read elsewhere that he attacked him when he wasn't expecting it.

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/erickson-hiding-asu-stars-locker-room-assault-29809

I also found this link because it was quoted by USA Today.

In the past 72 hours I’ve learned that Burfict violently attacked an Arizona State teammate after a recent Sun Devil practice.

In the aftermath of a verbal confrontation between Burfict and Arizona State wide receiver Kevin Ozier during a Wednesday Sun Devil practice, the star ASU linebacker initiated a blindside attack on Ozier from inside the team’s locker room, sucker-punching the diminutive wide receiver in the face.

The force of the blow knocked Ozier, who Burfict outweighs by 50 pounds, to the ground.

Ozier, who was initially unresponsive after Burfict delivered the brutal, blindside shot to his head, eventually recovered from the assault.

Stuff like this is why I wouldn't even want him in training camp. Let alone on the field losing games for us. Or anything else not mentioned in this post.
 
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I hope people that want to pick him up remember this



I know people get into fights every camp, with the vast majority being in the heat of the moment on the field. But to wait for someone like a psycho in the locker room? Again he outweighed the guy by 60 lbs or so and also a few inches. Last thing we need is someone stalking one of our players.

I think I read elsewhere that he attacked him when he wasn't expecting it.

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/erickson-hiding-asu-stars-locker-room-assault-29809

I also found this link because it was quoted by USA Today.



Stuff like this is why I wouldn't even want him in training camp. Let alone on the field losing games for us. Or anything else not mentioned in this post.

You cant quote SPorts by Brooks, he is the National Enquirer of sports reporting.
 

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Pretty sure all teams were privy to this information long before the public was -- which is probably the reason why Burfict hasn't had any personal workouts with any teams. In large part, Erickson destroyed Burfict by being the most un-disciplined coach in college football, but sooner or later Burfict has to grow up and take responsibility for his immature decisions. A team will take a chance on him in the later rounds, and most likely he will never be heard from again.
 

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