Byrnes done for the season. D'backs considering Barry Bonds?

[BC867]

Its not just the roids. The guy is one of the most arrogant, irritating, self absorbed aholes ever to play the game.

And that's the reputation he had many years ago playing college baseball at ASU. It didn't just come with fame.

My biggest gripe with Bonds is not the steroids. It's his lying about it.

Getting caught up in something wrong, but not discouraged by team ownership, is one thing.

One lie after another to the public is much more of a character issue.

We don't need the Bonds Circus here in the Valley.

He's not the only cleanup hitter out there. But he's the biggest a$$hole.

 

[Nasser22]

He's a half-season rental that will improve the team. Bring him in, get it done!

 

[BC867]

He's a half-season rental that will improve the team. Bring him in, get it done!

Short-term solutions often hurt teams in the long run. For the D'backs to be the only Major League team to make Bonds an offer is not good publicity.

We can improve the team without him, while not tarnishing our reputation.

Y'know, both the NBA and MLB have been antagonistic against our teams in the past because of what was reported as Jerry Colangelo's arrogance.

There are players whom everyone hated while they were on other teams, but loved when they joined us. Danny Ainge and Shaq, for example.

They were all tough, but not dishonorable. Bonds is dishonorable.

 

[UncleChris]

To quote Nancy Reagan....


"Just say no..."

 

[JS22]

What about Kenny Lofton?

 

[moviebuff316]

The Two sides IMO of why we should or shouldn't bring him:

Positive: He will impact the offense. More Base Runners and whoever hits before or after him will have better pitches to hit. We also bring in a veteran who possibly can help our young hitters mature and become better. I think it will bring up attendance as well.

Negative: Publicity. The media will be all over Arizona. Attitude. Barry is known to be arrogant and feud with teammates/coaches. Steroids. Will bring media over that subject to Arizona. We didn't even try to re-sign Gonzo because of our Gm's suspicion of the 2001 year.


Overall I'd be open to see Barry come here. I think he will impact our offense which is what AZ needs. Barry wont be able to be a every day player so we will still see Conor in Left Field occasionally. I do not think that Barry will sign here. I betcha it was just an idea that was taken way out of context.

My Lineup if Barry Was Signed:

Chris Young
Steven Drew
Orlando Hudson
Barry Bonds
Conor Jackson
Chad Tracy (Mark Reynolds)
Chris Snyder
Pitcher

 

[sundevil04]

Go

I hate Bonds just as much as the next guy and think it COULD be a negative for this young team in the long run, but let's be honest...it would be fun to watch.
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[CardinalsFan11]

Short-term solutions often hurt teams in the long run. For the D'backs to be the only Major League team to make Bonds an offer is not good publicity.

We can improve the team without him, while not tarnishing our reputation.

Y'know, both the NBA and MLB have been antagonistic against our teams in the past because of what was reported as Jerry Colangelo's arrogance.

There are players whom everyone hated while they were on other teams, but loved when they joined us. Danny Ainge and Shaq, for example.

They were all tough, but not dishonorable. Bonds is dishonorable.

IMO, there is such a small chance that this hurts the Dbacks in the long run that it has to be a valid option right now. We give up no prospects, we pay him the veteran minimum and if he doesn't produce we don't bring him back next season.

 

[Evil Ash]

Negative: Publicity. The media will be all over Arizona. Attitude. Barry is known to be arrogant and feud with teammates/coaches. Steroids. Will bring media over that subject to Arizona. We didn't even try to re-sign Gonzo because of our Gm's suspicion of the 2001 year.

You forgot one. He can't play the OF any more. His knees are close to being completely shot and he doesn't have the athletic ability that he once had.

At this point Connor Jackson is a better defensive OF than Barry is and that's saying something. No question about his offensive abilities even without the roids but defensively he's done.

I doubt he'll come here anyways because I don't think we'd offer that much in terms of a contract

 

[Evil Ash]

IMO, there is such a small chance that this hurts the Dbacks in the long run that it has to be a valid option right now. We give up no prospects, we pay him the veteran minimum and if he doesn't produce we don't bring him back next season.

He's not coming here for the minimum. NO CHANCE

I doubt he goes anywhere for less than $8 million.

 

[HooverDam]

I doubt he'll come here anyways because I don't think we'd offer that much in terms of a contract

As much of a tool as he's shown himself to be, I sort of doubt he's out for much of a payday. He probably wants to keep adding to his records, and to chase the hopes of a title one more time. I think it'll be a situation akin to veteran players signing for cheap in Boston this year to try to win the NBA title. I don't think Bonds would sign up to say DH for the Royals, but if there's a team that wants him and he thinks they have a shot, then I think we could see him playing again this year.

 

[CardinalsFan11]

You forgot one. He can't play the OF any more. His knees are close to being completely shot and he doesn't have the athletic ability that he once had.

At this point Connor Jackson is a better defensive OF than Barry is and that's saying something. No question about his offensive abilities even without the roids but defensively he's done.

I doubt he'll come here anyways because I don't think we'd offer that much in terms of a contract

You forget that we have 2 of the most athletic outfielders in the game to help overcome his limited range in LF. Additionally, his offensive abilities would overshadow any defensive deficiencies he may have.

 

[CardinalsFan11]

He's not coming here for the minimum. NO CHANCE

I doubt he goes anywhere for less than $8 million.

Scott Boras, his agent, has said that he'll play for the minimum (390,000) or donate his salary to buy tickets for kids.

http://www.hardballreport.com/content/view/1077/86/

 

[sundevil04]

Go

I don't think he can be a an everyday player but as a pinch hitter and to throw him in the starting lineup against a favorable pitching matchup could be nice
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[CardinalsFan11]

I don't think he can be a an everyday player but as a pinch hitter and to throw him in the starting lineup against a favorable pitching matchup could be nice

You could play him every Webb start and limit his defensive liability and then play him based on pitching matchups

 

[FArting]

No to Bonds I don't like him.

 

[TheKid_1]

Baseball Tonight just reported that an inside source with the Dbacks has said that the Dbacks have ZERO interest in Barry Bonds. Take what you will from this but just thought I'd throw that out there.

 

[CardinalsFan11]

Baseball Tonight just reported that an inside source with the Dbacks has said that the Dbacks have ZERO interest in Barry Bonds. Take what you will from this but just thought I'd throw that out there.

Unfortunately that's not super surprising. The Dbacks aren't a team that is willing to rock the boat and bring in a guy like Barry, although they should.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

The main question I have here: what kind of influence would Bonds have on the morale of the team?

Yes, Bonds has openly stated he'll play for cheap. He's also still got something left, so I think. As for the steroid crap, I honestly could give a damn less at this point. I have my speculations about Gonzo and Matt Williams, yet they remain two of the more popular players in franchise history.

My issue is with team chemsitry. The DBacks are, by and large, a young, influential team. My biggest issue with Bonds is the fact that in his past, he's been known as a bit of a lockerroom problem. At this point, I'm not sure Arizona's in the position to have that kind of influence on the team.

 

[BC867]

My issue is with team chemsitry. The DBacks are, by and large, a young, influential team. My biggest issue with Bonds is the fact that in his past, he's been known as a bit of a lockerroom problem. At this point, I'm not sure Arizona's in the position to have that kind of influence on the team.

Good point. Especially with a very passive Manager, who takes weeks to react to any situation.

If it would take Chip Hale or Kirk Gibson to keep someone as volatile at Bonds in line, why the hell should Melvin be calling the shots?

 

[scXfreakX]

He could definitely help the team. The guys knows how to hit and that is something we are REALLY lacking right now. I'm all for it. Why not?

 

[Desert Rat]

His #25 IS available, after all...
How long until he gets into game shape? This would be pre-season for him. Of course, his agent says he's healthy. Well, if they do sign him, maybe it would take a lot of the attention away from how the D-backs crumbled like stale bread (or like Bonds' knees). An 'inside source' and Josh Byrnes may say they have no interest in him, but I wouldn't be surprised if they had a contract drafted up for him, already.

 

[Lefty]

I guess we can stop the Barry talk because the Diamondbacks came out and said they are not pursuing him, this from Channel 3 this morning.

 

[HooverDam]

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diamondbacks/articles/2008/07/09/20080709dbnotes0710.html

Sounds like Justin Upton may be going to the DL now. I really wish the D'backs would consider bringing in Bonds now, they need a bat like nobodies business.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

For some reason this really annoys me…it just seems to be such a low risk proposition. We have no offense, and nobody who can even remotely put up numbers like Barry. Sign him for the pro-rated minimum, have an understanding that the moment he causes any problems he will be released immediately, and avoid having to give up prospects through a trade that will get a player that is much worse than Bonds.