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Here's what hoops hype had to say about the Suns first pick...
'This could be the steal of the draft. No other international player in the first round had a better performance last year than Carbarkapa. Not even Milicic.

Overall I think the Suns did very well. If you notice my post back several days ago I noted that there was a strong possibility that the Suns would be in a delimma if Lampe fell and sure enough thats happened. I would love to know how much debate when on among Suns management when both Lampe and Zarko were on the board at their pick.

I think the Suns wanted immediate help next year and Lampe's contract might have been an issue. I also think the Suns thought that Lampe was much slower up/down the court than Zarko. I heard tht the Suns have been following Zarko for the last 3 years so they really had their eye on him.

All in all I am very happy what they did in this draft.
 

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Originally posted by corrado
Here's what hoops hype had to say about the Suns first pick...
'This could be the steal of the draft. No other international player in the first round had a better performance last year than Carbarkapa. Not even Milicic.


Where did that come from? Never heard that until now.
 
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The link is www.hoopshype.com then click on draft 2003.
You also have to like Barbosa. They filled their 2 biggest needs IMO with this draft.
 

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Re: Zarko

Originally posted by corrado
The link is www.hoopshype.com then click on draft 2003.
You also have to like Barbosa. They filled their 2 biggest needs IMO with this draft.

I agree, we did fill our 2 biggest needs--what I was asking was where hoops hype got this information...
 

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Last year I wanted the Phoenix Suns to take one of a few other players instead of Casey Jacobsen. But they took CJ, and I talked myself into liking the pick. I think I'm doing the same with Zarko. I just hope the immediate results are a little bit better.

This was from the draft time chat on ESPN.

Peter Wizards: The Wizards take Carbarkapa?

Fran Fraschilla: (7:24 PM ET ) That might be a stretch...he's certainly a top 20 pick...some people who I trust in Europe say that he hasn't improved much in the the last three years...he's an "oldf" 22.


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The bottom line is...

none of these players are sure things. It's a crapshoot. I have faith in the Suns draft track record. You can find negatives written about any player that was in this draft. Barbosa has some negatives also.

The Suns had Zarko in for 2 days of workouts. I remember that he was brought in when Chris Thomas was brought in for his workout and Thomas noted that this guy knew how to play.

All I can say is I like the Suns draft alot better than some of the other teams but the proof will be in the pudding.
 

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FJ on Carbarkapa

From Suns.com
http://www.nba.com/suns/news/draft03_frank_030626.html
Suns Head Coach Frank Johnson met with reporters at the Fox Sports Grill in Scottsdale on Thursday night, shortly after selecting Siberian forward Zarko Cabarkapa with the 17th overall pick in the 2003 NBA Draft. The following is a transcript of that media availability session. Check back later tonight for Johnson's thoughts on Leandro Barbosa, the Brazilian guard the Suns acquired in a draft night deal with the San Antonio Spurs.

Question: Can you talk about your first pick, Zarko Cabarkapa?

Johnson: Zarko is a guy we have watched. He was here at the Desert Classic (in 2001) and we’ve watched his progress. (Suns President and GM) Bryan Colangelo and (Suns Assistant Director of Player Personnel) David Griffin have been over to see him this year. They’ve certainly liked what they’ve seen. He’s a 7-0 guy who can go inside-outside. When you talk about basic fundamental basketball, we always talk about dribble, pass and shoot. He can handle the ball for a seven-footer. He can get in there in terms of penetration. He can certainly shoot the ball. On top of that, he can pass the ball.

With the team that we have, we called it small ball at times, (assistant coach) Mike D’Antoni said, ‘It’s not small ball, it’s skill ball.’ Now we have a 7-0 skill guy that we don’t necessarily have to go with guys who are 6-7 and under. Now we have that 7-0 guy who can go out and do some of those things.

Now is he going to come in right away? No. We have some good veteran players that certainly know how to play and can do some things. With the coaching staff we have here we feel his upside is going to be very good. We can teach him how to play this game and to play our style, which is getting up and down the court because he runs very well. Having a seven-footer on the weak side, he can block some shots.

Question: How much do you expect him to contribute?

Johnson: A lot of times that is hard to say. How many players at the 17th pick have made a big contribution? Not many? Hopefully, we’ll have him here (Friday) and we’ll work him out all summer long. We’ll have our (summer league) training camp starting on July 14 and we’ll watch his progress. He’ll have a chance to play a lot this summer.

Question: How do you seem him fitting in with the frontcourt of Shawn Marion and Amaré Stoudemire?

Johnson: In the West you certainly have length, but with the exception of a few guys, particularly (Shaquille O’Neal), there are not that many centers. You put him and Amaré together and (Cabarkapa) can space the floor. That’s pretty exciting because he can shoot it from three-point range. He can put it on the floor as well. That’s very exciting for us.

He was a guy that when he came in I didn’t know that much about him. I certainly talked to our scouts and once he came in he was shooting the basketball, and doing some things. We had him out there defensively. He was certainly impressive being able to do those things. I think he can fit in very well with those guys. He’s a young who we certainly like his upside.

Question: What about his size? He’s really tall, but thin.

Johnson: The one thing we know is he never has really worked in terms of lifting weights. He hasn’t had the proper physical training and for that matter, the coaching, too. We feel very good with our staff and that our guys can teach him even more.

Question: What position will he play?

Johnson: I think he can go 3,4,5 and not necessarily against Shaq. There’s no question about that, but you know Amaré has the body to go against some fives in the West with the exception of Shaq. A lot of teams are now playing power forwards at center. He is a guy that can possibly space out the floor and if you put a five on Amaré, he can certainly use his athletic ability and quickness.

Question: Is he definitely coming over next season?

Johnson: No. He’s coming. We’ll see him (Friday) and then you (reporters) can ask him. There’s a good chance he’ll have a press conference (Friday).

Question: Is there a player in the league that you can compare him to?

Johnson: No. There’s not one guy. He’s a 7-0 guy that can certainly shoot the basketball very well. He can drive. He has huge hands. We put him in the box and his jump hook was very impressive over his left shoulder. He can turn over his right shoulder and shoot. He’s seven-foot tall and when he extends, it’s like no one can get to him. His wingspan is 7-1 and his reach is 9-1.

Question: Is he like Pau Gasol, Toni Kukoc at all?

Johnson: He has taken the ball off the boards and brought it down. I like Kukoc. He reminds you of Gasol, certainly in terms of his length. If you look at him, he has narrow shoulders, but he’s very thick from front to back. Gasol is a little wider, but he’s narrow. The guy has never been on any weightlifting program. I think he’ll be able to add something there. He’ll get a chance to work with him a lot this summer.

Question: Was there any point when you guys got nervous that someone would take him?

Johnson: Yes. We thought Boston wanted (Marcus) Banks and when they didn’t get Banks we thought they might be the one team group that would probably throw a monkey wrench into our plans, but it didn’t happen. They took Troy Bell and the rest is history.

Question: Does he speak English well enough to communicate?

Johnson: Don’t know? Box, defense, block, pass, and shoot - all those simple terms - I don’t think he has to worry.
 

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Question: Is he definitely coming over next season?

Johnson: No. He’s coming. We’ll see him (Friday) and then you (reporters) can ask him. There’s a good chance he’ll have a press conference (Friday).

Way to go Frank, way to make sense. :rolleyes:
 

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I'm confident the Suns have done their homework on Zarko. I think he can help them next year.

He sounds like an all-around player, which is what liked about West and Walton. Plus he has size and seems like a pretty good athlete.

To bad Amare will miss the summer League.
 

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It was nice to read that Frankie thought Zarko could so 'some things' defensively because you have to wonder exactly who a 7' rail could defend - a typical '4' would figure to push him around down low and a typical '3' would get him tangled footed on the perimeter. Someone mentioned him being useful for giving 'weak side' help - the trouble is he won't ever be on the weak side if his man is the one the other team goes to every time down the floor. Well if he really can shoot NBA 3's and drive he'll be an improvement on Langhi on the offensive end. We'll see.... one thing we can be sure of is that FJ will play him a lot.

Given the state of our frontcourt, I find it disheartening that the last three draft picks have all been perimeter players while some 'bigs' with decent potential were still available. Just the kind of drafting that has made the Suns soft inside for three plus (basketball) generations.
 

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Originally posted by Errntknght

Given the state of our frontcourt, I find it disheartening that the last three draft picks have all been perimeter players while some 'bigs' with decent potential were still available. Just the kind of drafting that has made the Suns soft inside for three plus (basketball) generations.

Contrary to popular belief the Phoenix Suns greatest need is not a center. More than that they need their role players to be able to shoot well enough from outside to spread the floor for the big three, especially Marbury and Amare.

Don't get me wrong. An upgrade at center would be nice, but given the weakness at that position in the NBA they can get by with what they have.

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Heck, the Suns have 'gotten by' while being soft inside all these years but 'geting by' isn't my idea of a worthwhile goal.

Amare will probably borrow a trick from Marbs and put 'All Alone' on his sneakers because the poor guy is gonna be all alone in the paint this next year.
 

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Alone?

If he is the defender will also be alone and won't be able to guard Amare. If Amare gets double teamed Zarko should be open somewhere.
 

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Originally posted by Errntknght
Heck, the Suns have 'gotten by' while being soft inside all these years but 'geting by' isn't my idea of a worthwhile goal.

Amare will probably borrow a trick from Marbs and put 'All Alone' on his sneakers because the poor guy is gonna be all alone in the paint this next year.

Amare Stoudemire is better off if he is all alone in the paint. One of the problems he had last season was that other players' defenders were able to constantly help out against him. Bo Outlaw, Big Jake, Little Jake, and to a lesser extent Scott Williams would clog the middle for not only Amare but also for Stephon Marbury and Shawn Marion. The Phoenix Suns desperately need people to spread the floor.

Bryan Colangelo talked about this last night. Of course on defense I'll give you that it's nice to have another big player to clog the middle and grab rebounds.

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Originally posted by Errntknght
Heck, the Suns have 'gotten by' while being soft inside all these years but 'geting by' isn't my idea of a worthwhile goal.

Amare will probably borrow a trick from Marbs and put 'All Alone' on his sneakers because the poor guy is gonna be all alone in the paint this next year.

Way to be constructive! :thumbup:

Hey, at least there wasn't a "Frank Johnson sucks" part of this post... :D
 

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Nobody has bashed the Suns' feeble attempts at drafting or signing big men than me but the team earned some slack with the bold selection of Amare last year.

Zarko seems to fill a need - if he plays as advertized. I'm willling to be convinced.
 

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A long nose or big feet would make you feel good as well , huh? :wave:

Shaq said last season that Amare's hands shocked him as his hands almost swallowed his own when they shook hands.
 

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