Can Rosen fix his high throws?

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I've "heard" it is very difficult to teach accuracy... I believe that Rosen's completion stats in college were a little inflated by the throws he needed to make compared to what he was attempting to make in NFL. Sometimes he would have a wide open receiver and just throw it way too high... does that often get fixed? I seem to recall qb's in the past playing for us that if they had that problem, it never really got fixed.
 

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Yes, because he never was cited as having accuracy issues till he was used as human tackling dummy behind our OL, weak WR group... nevermind, I guess nobody remembers why we moved up to draft him or the situation he was thrust into, and you get my point

And his throws got even higher after Christian Kirk and 80% of the offensive line went down. I wonder why
 

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No, it's what he is. He has been and will be overthRosen.
 

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I've "heard" it is very difficult to teach accuracy... I believe that Rosen's completion stats in college were a little inflated by the throws he needed to make compared to what he was attempting to make in NFL. Sometimes he would have a wide open receiver and just throw it way too high... does that often get fixed? I seem to recall qb's in the past playing for us that if they had that problem, it never really got fixed.

WR running wide open? I must have missed this

But I will say this I’ve never seen more drops in my life from our WR crew than last year
 

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Really good question. Remember that Rosen's college completion % is just
above 60%. He was never super accurate, but always about arm talent.

Being late, throwing high, missing wide open guys... were those things just rookie mistakes under bad circumstances or is it something that's always been there?

I'm for keeping Rosen and taking Bosa or trading down. But if Keim/KK evaluate that Murray is more accurate while giving the defense something to worry about on the ground, they shouldn't hesitate to pull the plug on Rosen.
 

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I don't think accuracy can be fixed.





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I'd like to see all of his throws in a loop. He had times where the receiver was wide open and he had time. It seems like a roll of the dice if he will hit or not no matter what the circumstances are... If he had a game where his Oline was one of the best but his receivers were more open on the deeper balls I wouldn't expect much more than 50% completion at this point.. hopefully it is nerves etc and as he gets more experience it will get better...
 

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Rosen obviously can only improve after his nightmare rookie season. But can he improve to consistently complete well over 60% of his passes and throw much more TDs than INTs? That's the real question.
 

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If the issue is reading and anticipation, perhaps so, but if it's mechanics then it can be improved.

That's why there is something called a 'QB coach'.
From KK's Air Raid teacher, Mike Leach:
“If a quarterback isn’t accurate, you shouldn’t recruit him”

“The thing that’s amazing to me, is that after all of high school he’s not accurate, and now all of a sudden you’re special and you’re going to make him accurate? And then after college he’s not accurate, and you’re special and you’re going to make him accurate? I just haven’t seen that happen. I’ve seen guys improve, but they don’t all of a sudden become accurate.”

http://footballscoop.com/news/mike-leach-quarterback-isnt-accurate-shouldnt-recruit/

Darren Urban tends to agree with this. He has said so many times on the Cards underground podcast.
 

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I think that Rosen can improve and that is why the Cards hired KK and also brought in Clements. I feel the Cards will be much improved this year with either Rosen or Murray at QB.
 

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Why do we have a thread about Josh Allen now when we did not draft him... I know, a simple mistake since Rosen's first name is Josh too
 

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Why did Brett Favre, a 54% passer in College climb to over 60% in the pros?

Explain the improvement of the following from year one to two: T. Aikman, S. Young, J. Theismann, J. Goff ???

(and there are other examples)
Manning 56.7 to 62.1 in his second year to 65.3 career

Brees 60.8 rookie, 65.5 3rd yr, 67.3 career

Goff 54.6, 62.1, 64.9

Luck 54.1, 60.2, 61.7, 55.3, 63.5, 67.3

Carr 58.1, 61.1, 63.8, 62.7, 68.9


Carr made a huge jump with a new coach and system.
 

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