Cardinal Player Rankings 6/9/08

[Crazy Canuck]

Everything he says.

Davis sucked, and still sucks. He is hidden in the Cowboys OL.

I remember laughing at him two times last year.

#1 - The personal foul he got against the Giants in the playoffs last year.
#2 - False start in the pro bowl.

Davis sucked, and is no where near worth the money he was given.

So he's a starter in the Pro Bowl, but somehow "sucks"???

Ok, fine...

I watched every Cowboy game and never, ever saw them slide protection to cover for "Big".

And, as to the question of his value; well, that's up to Jerry Jones, and if he's willing to pay, then by extension... he's worth the $$$.

 

[joeshmo]

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1. Gandy- for the life of me I dont understand why this guy hasn't gotten more credit. He is the best LT the cards have had in my lifetime. Prior to his injury last year he was playing at a PB level.

Still dont understand the pro bowl level talk. I think he was as at that level as a pass blocker but as a run blocker he wasnt even close to being at a pro bowl level. Maybe he was covering for Wells to much or lack of run blocking TE ability next to him, but in the end his run blocking left a lot to be desired.

 

[Duckjake]

Deuce Lutui has taken Marcel Shipp's mantle as the most overrated player on the Arizona Cardinals.

I still don't understand the reason for Latui's sudden drop in value by some people.

I wish I had the dvr's of the games from last year to watch but I switched to HD this spring and was too lazy to copy them to DVDs before changing receivers.

 

[DaisyCutter]

I still don't understand the reason for Latui's sudden drop in value by some people.

I wish I had the dvr's of the games from last year to watch but I switched to HD this spring and was too lazy to copy them to DVDs before changing receivers.

I like Lutui. I think he has a lot of potential. But I think the fan base overvalues him. Obviously, the coaching staff doesn't hold him in nearly as high a regard as we do. The fact of the matter is that he was a free agent signing away from being on the bench with Elton Brown.

IMO, Lutui has a ton of physical potential but is a little soft at times and doesn't bring it every play. I don't think he'll ever be a top OG, but some people here seem to think that he was shafted for the Pro Bowl, or something. I think he prefers to be blocking for Matt Leinart, and prefers pass blocking to run blocking.

That'll be his biggest problem with the new regime, IMO.

 

[Skkorpion]

I like Lutui. I think he has a lot of potential. But I think the fan base overvalues him. Obviously, the coaching staff doesn't hold him in nearly as high a regard as we do. The fact of the matter is that he was a free agent signing away from being on the bench with Elton Brown.

IMO, Lutui has a ton of physical potential but is a little soft at times and doesn't bring it every play. I don't think he'll ever be a top OG, but some people here seem to think that he was shafted for the Pro Bowl, or something. I think he prefers to be blocking for Matt Leinart, and prefers pass blocking to run blocking.

That'll be his biggest problem with the new regime, IMO.

Well put. I concur on all points.

 

[cardsfanmd]

So he's a starter in the Pro Bowl, but somehow "sucks"???

Ok, fine...

I watched every Cowboy game and never, ever saw them slide protection to cover for "Big".

And, as to the question of his value; well, that's up to Jerry Jones, and if he's willing to pay, then by extension... he's worth the $$$.

He went to the PB as a GUARD. That is like saying that Hester is a better WR than Boldin just because he made the PB.

BTW- why do you watch all the cowboy games??

 

[black]

He went to the PB as a GUARD. That is like saying that Hester is a better WR than Boldin just because he made the PB.

BTW- why do you watch all the cowboy games??

We got us a closet Cowgirls fan.

 

[ajcardfan]

Mitch,

How is Boldin going to be able to look Fitz in the eye after skipping all of these workouts?

 

[RugbyMuffin]

So he's a starter in the Pro Bowl, but somehow "sucks"???

Ok, fine...

I watched every Cowboy game and never, ever saw them slide protection to cover for "Big".

And, as to the question of his value; well, that's up to Jerry Jones, and if he's willing to pay, then by extension... he's worth the $$$.

Just my opinion. I don't think he played well enough to make the pro bowl, and only made the pro bowl because he is a Dallas Cowboy.

While here, Big sucked. While with the Cowboys? Well, I do not care what he is doing over in Cowboy land. I just know he sucks.

 

[cardsfanmd]

We got us a closet Cowgirls fan.

my thoughts exactly

 

[Skkorpion]

Well, Canuck, Roy Williams started in the pro bowl and he sucks.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Well, Canuck, Roy Williams started in the pro bowl and he sucks.

Hold on guys, this one trumps all...

Neil Rackers made a pro bowl.

 

[DaisyCutter]

Just my opinion. I don't think he played well enough to make the pro bowl, and only made the pro bowl because he is a Dallas Cowboy.

While here, Big sucked. While with the Cowboys? Well, I do not care what he is doing over in Cowboy land. I just know he sucks.

That may explain why he made the Pro Bowl as a Dallas Cowboy, but does that really explain how he was three times a Pro Bowl alternate as an Arizona Cardinal?

He certainly wasn't getting votes from the fans here. So it must have been opposing coaches and players that were voting for him.

And they would know.

 

[CardLogic]

The problem with Leonard Davis, while a Cardinal, was not because he was horrible. He wasn't.

No the problem with LD was that he had the potential to be so much more, and to be so much better as a Cardinal. The potential for greatness has always been there, but he just didn't produce at a level approaching his potential or his cost!

He is a Cow now, so I don't know or care how well he plays for Dallas.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Just my opinion. I don't think he played well enough to make the pro bowl, and only made the pro bowl because he is a Dallas Cowboy.

While here, Big sucked. While with the Cowboys? Well, I do not care what he is doing over in Cowboy land. I just know he sucks.

One can't cross-examine an opinion...

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Well, Canuck, Roy Williams started in the pro bowl and he sucks.

I agree on Williams; disagree on "Big".

 

[cardsfanmd]

nm

 

[black]

Excuse me if I'm wrong again, but didn't big play guard at Dallas? He wouldn't play guard at AZ? right?

 

[RugbyMuffin]

One can't cross-examine an opinion...

Especially one as one-sided and as impartial as mine towards the Cowdungs and Big.

I will never forgive the false start to end the game vs. the Rams. EVER!

 

[Duckjake]

Especially one as one-sided and as impartial as mine towards the Cowdungs and Big.

I will never forgive the false start to end the game vs. the Rams. EVER!

How can you sleep at night? With all the crazy stuff the Cards have pulled to lose games over the years.

But I hear you. I'll be thinking about something at work, like advertising or personnel issues, and all of a sudden I'll see Eric Green trip over the football as vividly as if its happening again right in front of me.

Now that I think about it, for all the grief they've caused over the last 3 years, I give every player on the Cards a Gabe Watson sized ZERO.