Cardinals announce they have released Hopkins - Signed with Titans

[Chopper0080]

Everyone on this board knows that a lack of accountability go the Cardinals into this situation, and there are still people on here who want to continue to not hold people accountable. Kind of amazing.

 

[Chopper0080]

How do you know he didn't ask for it? I reports have led to him wanting out so it's possible they just honored his request. He can still be traded as this transition doesn't take place until Tuesday. But hey maybe your right??!

Budda wants out too. How is this different?

 

[BirdGangThing]

Why?

Are we going to overpay free agents next year to join a bad team? Who are the marquee 2024 free agents you have your eye on who will come help out a 3-14 team?

3 wins looking pretty genuise rn lol

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Holy crap.

You know it’s bad when BRITCARD disagrees with the move.

Give it 24 hours . . .

 

[CardNots]

David johnson laughing his ass off at cards now lol

Why, he got a Rich contract he should’ve never received

The previous Gm was the candy man for sure

 

[Mainstreet]

Lol we had no hope with or without him. Literally none.

And losing Hopkins for nothing is another reason.

 

[Shane]

David johnson laughing his ass off at cards now lol

While he’s unemployed? Doubtful

 

[Dback Jon]

This is the suckyest team that ever sucked. And we have had some sucky teams.

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[Mainstreet]

Gotta believe the timing of this release on a holiday weekend is the Cardinals last attempt at getting something of value for him.

Or the Cardinals are hoping everyone is out of town and no one notices.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

The more I think about it the more I wonder if there's more to the story

Draft came and went, Gannon said Dhop was Cardinal - Dhop hinted he was staying

The June 1st thing couldn't have been the only motivation as the clock had not run out

This leads me to believe that not only had all trade possibilities been exhausted - but also something may have recently happened internally

Beef or some type of friction. With who? Who knows? But last I checked there were 31 days in May

If the report is true, though, that this won't be official until Tuesday the 30th, if they are truly just trying to jumpstart a trade offer like Raiders did the Hudson, waiting until Tuesday or Wednesday would have been cutting it too close. At least now, they have the weekend (Cards and Hop) to work out a possible trade and new contract with new team.

 

[Chopper0080]

Or the Cardinals are hoping everyone is out of town and no one notices.

There aren’t many Cardinal fans left to care. There are some players fans have interest in, but the franchise is irrelevant.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Losers don’t need help being losers. They figure it out on their own.

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[QuebecCard]

The Cardinals played tough before the draft and are now stuck with zero options. They stepped into n their own dick as they are prone to do.

They shopped him and permitted Dhop to seek a trade.

It's not difficult to imagine that it came down to additional cost beyond the Cap hit for the Cards and fit for Dhop.

Team-A (contender): interested if the Cards pick a portion of the salary. Add this to the $22m Cap hit, and the Cards are virtually paying his Cap hit in 2023 for, at best, a mid-draft lotto ticket. For one, I'd rather have 2023 Cap space that rolls over into 2024.

Team-B (non-contender): interested and more willing to take on the DHop deal, possibly subject to a redo, but DHop makes it known that he isn't interested in playing for them at this point in his career. Given this, they pass.

Now... tell us what you'd have done and with whom?

P.S. I don't think the lack of Cap out there is the problem some envisage. DHop, at a minimum, wants his $19.5m in 2023. A contending team can sign him for $20m with three voidable years and bring him in at a $5m Cap charge in 2023.

 

[Mark22]

And how is this different than the Budda situation?

It’s not

 

[dreamcastrocks]

We traded a 2nd for how many games? Less than two years? Awesome.

And we got out of DJ's contract. We still made out like bandits in the deal.

 

[az jam]

Kyle Odegard

The Cardinals are tanking, and that's a good thing. Take your medicine in 2023 and try to rejoin the chase in 2024 with a healthy Kyler + myriad draft picks + cap space.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Budda wants out too. How is this different?

Apples to oranges imo. We don't know what is said behind closed doors. It's possible that hop asked for this and Baker has been told something that made him happy. Or Baker could be next.. who knows. I certainly don't but anything Said is premature, again imo.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Would that be worth it?

How much salary would they need to eat?

My gas probably about 30% or even half of it but with that said it would be a lesser cap hit and you at least have some return

 

[Mainstreet]

There aren’t many Cardinal fans left to care. There are some players fans have interest in, but the franchise is irrelevant.

I'd like to say something more encouraging but it appears to be all about the 2024 NFL Draft.

 

[az jam]

Raising Zona

#BirdGang

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, Monti Ossenfort got this one right. There was no place for Hopkins on a team that's looking to get younger and further looking to change the culture. Arizona Cardinals get it right with Hopkins' release.

 

[QuebecCard]

My gas probably about 30% or even half of it but with that said it would be a lesser cap hit and you at least have some return

Not much of a saving. A-third of Dhop's 2023 salary, plus the $22m 'dead' money hit and you're close to the $30m he's on the books for in 2023, as it stands.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

hmmm…. It’s not like Dhop was part of the rebuild plan, and you don’t want a malcontent messing up the new leadership’s vibe, but I was secretly hoping he would ball out this year and give us some momentum going into 2024. He was so good when he was healthy.

No room for divas on this version of the Cardinals I guess. Sucks for us, but purely from an entertainment standpoint.

 

[az jam]

John Gambadoro
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Unfair to say the Cardinals couldn't trade DeAndre Hopkins. There were certainly teams interested at the draft (KC and Buffalo) but it takes two to tango - any trade would have required Hop to restructure his deal and that is something he did not want to do.

 

[CardsFan88]

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You just have to keep the faith guys
#manon

 

[CardsFan88]

The only thing I can wildly speculate on is that teams want him, but not at his price. Cards won't eat money, and Hopkins wants them to. They realize they can't get what they want or almost anything with Hopkins $$$ demands and are just bailing before June 1st hampers next year.

Under such a scenario, it would be reality check time for Hopkins. Either cut your salary to facilitate a trade or find out what you're worth on the open market. But, we're telling you, you aren't going to get what you think you will, and this is the way you get the most. Either way, we're out.

But if he signs a pretty big deal (say 2yrs 20-25 mill?), then it's going to make the front office look like Pikers.

They have to know that, right? Nah, probably not.