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Bickley

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Nov. 17, 2004

The NFL is a wonderful place for losers. The Cardinals are much obliged.

In 2006, they move into a new home, courtesy of Maricopa County voters. They will also receive a 25 percent raise, an estimated $18 million pay hike from the league's new TV contracts.

This is a tremendous windfall for a franchise that has lost 167 games in 16 previous seasons, and in order to lessen the perception that they are nothing but overfed hoboes and civic freeloaders, the Cardinals need to make a simple gesture to their fans: Sign Drew Brees when the season is over.
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"It's something that's popped up on the radar screen," a Cardinals' source said on Tuesday. "It hasn't been anything more than just a thought, but it certainly has some merit."

This is not solely a reflection of incumbent Josh McCown, a gritty kid that is growing on the job. He is 5-5 in his past 10 starts, and might look a lot better if he weren't spending most of his Sundays scrambling for his life. Last week, he ran with the football and his head almost ended up in New Mexico.

Problem is, the Cardinals are getting close to special right now. Win three of their next four games, and they could be playing host to St. Louis for first place on Dec. 18. Whether you scoffed, gasped or rolled your eyes when Dennis Green took over and filled the air with outrageous statements, everything he said about this team is coming true.

That is, everything but the part about McCown being one of the breakthrough players, a quarterback that Green thought was destined for greatness.

"We're still encouraged with Josh," said Rod Graves, vice president of football operations. "The thing we love about him is his commitment and his attitude and his desire to be successful. It's those things that keep him in the driver's seat and keep us behind him. But he's not where he ultimately needs to be for us to be a truly great team."

McCown possesses all the raw tools you want in a quarterback. Yet that is also a euphemism for potential, for a quarterback that still makes too many bad reads, still locks in on his receivers and still must prove he can hang on to the ball.

During this late push to competency, the Cardinals are starting to turn some heads. The time to win is now, and given the sorry state of their division, the playoffs are not a pipe dream. After his own erratic performance last Sunday, McCown knows that his leash is shorter than ever. He must validate Green's vision soon, or face worse than an in-season demotion.

While Brees is putting up MVP numbers in San Diego, he is a free agent when the season is over. The Chargers have already invested $40 million in rookie Philip Rivers, who is temporarily confined to the bench. By all indications, Brees will be wearing a new uniform come 2005.

When that time comes, no one can offer all that Arizona offers - great climate, new stadium on the way, an offensive-minded head coach and two young receivers in Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin that may become Pro Bowl fixtures for the next decade.

Given their bounty of good fortune in the coming years, money will be no object for the Cardinals. At least it shouldn't be, and Brees would be the kind of windfall everyone could enjoy.
 

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CatBoxBackFan said:
Bickley

The Arizona Republic
Nov. 17, 2004

The NFL is a wonderful place for losers. The Cardinals are much obliged.

In 2006, they move into a new home, courtesy of Maricopa County voters. They will also receive a 25 percent raise, an estimated $18 million pay hike from the league's new TV contracts.

This is a tremendous windfall for a franchise that has lost 167 games in 16 previous seasons, and in order to lessen the perception that they are nothing but overfed hoboes and civic freeloaders, the Cardinals need to make a simple gesture to their fans: Sign Drew Brees when the season is over.
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"It's something that's popped up on the radar screen," a Cardinals' source said on Tuesday. "It hasn't been anything more than just a thought, but it certainly has some merit."

This is not solely a reflection of incumbent Josh McCown, a gritty kid that is growing on the job. He is 5-5 in his past 10 starts, and might look a lot better if he weren't spending most of his Sundays scrambling for his life. Last week, he ran with the football and his head almost ended up in New Mexico.

Problem is, the Cardinals are getting close to special right now. Win three of their next four games, and they could be playing host to St. Louis for first place on Dec. 18. Whether you scoffed, gasped or rolled your eyes when Dennis Green took over and filled the air with outrageous statements, everything he said about this team is coming true.

That is, everything but the part about McCown being one of the breakthrough players, a quarterback that Green thought was destined for greatness.

"We're still encouraged with Josh," said Rod Graves, vice president of football operations. "The thing we love about him is his commitment and his attitude and his desire to be successful. It's those things that keep him in the driver's seat and keep us behind him. But he's not where he ultimately needs to be for us to be a truly great team."

McCown possesses all the raw tools you want in a quarterback. Yet that is also a euphemism for potential, for a quarterback that still makes too many bad reads, still locks in on his receivers and still must prove he can hang on to the ball.

During this late push to competency, the Cardinals are starting to turn some heads. The time to win is now, and given the sorry state of their division, the playoffs are not a pipe dream. After his own erratic performance last Sunday, McCown knows that his leash is shorter than ever. He must validate Green's vision soon, or face worse than an in-season demotion.

While Brees is putting up MVP numbers in San Diego, he is a free agent when the season is over. The Chargers have already invested $40 million in rookie Philip Rivers, who is temporarily confined to the bench. By all indications, Brees will be wearing a new uniform come 2005.

When that time comes, no one can offer all that Arizona offers - great climate, new stadium on the way, an offensive-minded head coach and two young receivers in Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin that may become Pro Bowl fixtures for the next decade.

Given their bounty of good fortune in the coming years, money will be no object for the Cardinals. At least it shouldn't be, and Brees would be the kind of windfall everyone could enjoy.


OK thats it who stole Bickley???? Is this the first ever almost...maybe...probably...positive atricle?
 

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CatBoxBackFan said:
"It's something that's popped up on the radar screen," a Cardinals' source said on Tuesday. "It hasn't been anything more than just a thought, but it certainly has some merit."

I don't see DG signing Brees. Green wants a big armed QB to run his system.
 

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azdad1978 said:
I don't see DG signing Brees. Green wants a big armed QB to run his system.

Agree with you on that plus I really don't see Denny spending the money needed to sign Brees. We can get a solid free agent qb for much less. I also think that some teams may be dropping solid qbs for salary cap reasons. That is how Denny picked up Warren Moon, Randal Cunningham and Jeff George. All had big arms and did well with the Vikes.
It will be a very interesting off-season.
 

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THE most interesting thing about the off-season is the whole Brees situation. I think is very possible, that the Chargers will franchise him in order to receive compensation when he leaves.
 

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THE most interesting thing about the off-season is the whole Brees situation. I think is very possible, that the Chargers will franchise him in order to receive compensation when he leaves.

Bach,

This would be a very risky move.......I'm not too sure that those teams in the FA QB market will want to give up two #1's for Brees..........and if he isn't signed by another team, the Chargers will have a $9MM salary to pay Brees which will hit them hard vis a vis the cap.

Don't forget, Rivers cannot be traded (realistically) as his entire signing bonus would come under next years cap
 

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BACH said:
THE most interesting thing about the off-season is the whole Brees situation. I think is very possible, that the Chargers will franchise him in order to receive compensation when he leaves.

If the Chargers franchise him they run the risk of having to keep him and paying him 9m. Other teams know their dilema. Kind of what we would have faced by tagging Boston. We didn't want to take the chance of getting stuck with him.
If we want Brees we would be smart to make a decent offer to the Chargers before he becomes a free agent. There are other teams that will want a qb bur in this day and age i don't see anybody giving up a 1st and 2nd draft choice unless its a real good team that feels they are 1 player away from a super bowl( Ravens?), or a tea with extra picks to burn(Cowboys?).
 

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Bach,

This would be a very risky move.......I'm not too sure that those teams in the FA QB market will want to give up two #1's for Brees..........and if he isn't signed by another team, the Chargers will have a $9MM salary to pay Brees which will hit them hard vis a vis the cap.

Don't forget, Rivers cannot be traded (realistically) as his entire signing bonus would come under next years cap

Yep, I know and I doubt they'll get two 1st rounders for him, but I really think they'll franchise him and then trade him for the best offer.

Correct, they'll have $9M tied up in Brees if the franchise him, but the franchise number is base salary, so they wouldn't take any cap hits if they trade him. How can they afford it? Well, they took the entire cap hit from Boston this year, so they'll have an extra $13M to spend next next year.
 

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For those who were critical of the Fitzgerald pick, it should be remembered that the Fitzgerald/Boldin combo is a great lure for FA QBs.
 

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Brees isn't a free agent this off-season, I don't think. He may be cut for cap reasons (and team chemistry reasons), but I think he still has at least a year left on his contract.
 

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For those who were critical of the Pitzgerald pick, it should be remembered that the Fitzgerald/Boldin combo is a great lure for FA QBs.

That's true, historically really good QB's don't get to be FA's, but good ones often do and that's all we really need in this system with 2 great WR's.

Fitz is going to be a VERY good NFL WR for a long time, I don't think any of us doubt that based on what he's shown so far.
 

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Pariah said:
Brees isn't a free agent this off-season, I don't think. He may be cut for cap reasons (and team chemistry reasons), but I think he still has at least a year left on his contract.
he is a FA
 

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What other QB's are going to be released or are FA's at the end of this season, anybody know?
 

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clif said:
he is a FA
Looking him up on NFLPA.org, it seems he's scheduled to make money in 2005 and 2006. I assumed that meant he had a contract that extended into those years.

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QB (#)

Year: 2001

San Diego Chargers

Round: 2

San Diego, CA

Position: 1

Salary History

2001 320000.00
2002 400000.00
2003 980000.00
2004 1560000.00
2005 640000.00
2006 720000.00
 

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Pariah said:
Looking him up on NFLPA.org, it seems he's scheduled to make money in 2005 and 2006. I assumed that meant he had a contract that extended into those years.

They are wrong. He only signed a 4 year deal and never did any restructuring.

I saw that as well on NFLPA and emailed them about it. They emailed back saying they know about the problem already and it is a glich in the system.
 

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BACH said:
THE most interesting thing about the off-season is the whole Brees situation. I think is very possible, that the Chargers will franchise him in order to receive compensation when he leaves.

Actually the most interesting thing about the upcoming offseason is that we arw nine games in and we aren't relegated to thinking and talking about the offseason. We actually have something still going on this season
 

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