Cardinal's future try to get the best offensive line possible

[LoyalRam]

We finally have a long term QB. The important thing is keeping him protected, even more so than a big time receiver. The Oline protects the qb and helps the running game so it helps in a multitude of ways. Teams today have decide what their strengths are going to be with the Cap and I feel this is the most important area. NFL is about offense now, and having a poor DL or Corner is most likely not going to get the other players injured.... I think New England thinks the OL is the most important thing as well and they have done pretty well over the years.. not many flashy players except for maybe Gronk other than the QB.

(You are absolutely right, not that I'll tell you that)
You guys gotta go get a STUD WR
or a CB! Don't let anyone say differently!
(They buy it?)

 

[Gandhi]

Nice stats analysis Gandhi, but I'm going to be a grammar cop here. Everywhere you say "has", it needed to be "have".

Oh, I’m sorry about that, Shaggy, but I must admit that I will probably never get better at English grammar.

 

[Gandhi]

What this suggests is that a few teams have the secret sauce while others (like us) evidently do not. Solution points to doing a better job evaluating and developing OL talent (which in turn suggests hiring better OL coaches and scouts).

You are partly right about that, Jeff. I consider the Saints’, the Rams’ and the Chargers’ offensive lines the best in the league right now, with the Rams’ a little in front of the two others.

The Rams were the only team last year that had the same combination of five players for 15 games after they stroke gold with left tackle Andrew Whitworth and center John Sullivan in free agency before last season. This season right guard Austin Blythe is the only new starter, while Aaron Kromer has been their offensive line coach in both 2017 and 2018, and now he is also their run game coordinator which means that he has even more control of what Todd Gurley needs and gets.

The Saints return all five starters from last season, though they didn’t play together last season for more than 10 games, and still they were easily the best offensive line in the league. They don’t even knew each other that well since right tackle Ryan Ramczyk was drafted in the 2017 draft, and right guard Larry Warford was signed in free agency 2017. I think that’s a tribute to offensive line coach Dan Roushar, offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael and head coach Sean Payton.

The Chargers’ offensive line has four starters that played together last season, while they have been inserting a new center this year. The line was good last season but have been fantastic so far this season. Last season they inserted three new starters, two of them during the season, so they haven’t been playing together for that long. This is only the offensive line coach, Pat Meyer’s, second season, but since the unit has four new starters since he was hired, a lot of the credit for their success has to go to him for his input and coaching. Also, their head coach, Anthony Lynn, has long had a focus on the offensive line as he was a runningback himself and later on has been a runningback coach for many years.

I think an interesting side note is that all three of those teams have both good quarterbacks and runningbacks what definitely makes an offensive line better.

I went through how the Cardinals have prioritized the unit since Keim was made general manager. You can read it by clicking here.

I also think Ray Brown is a good offensive line coach, but it takes time to form a good unit.

 

[TruColor]

Oh, I’m sorry about that, Shaggy, but I must admit that I will probably never get better at English grammar.

Your English grammar is still better than about 75% of the posters here.

(Look at the thread title - "Cardinal's"??? Oh, the humanity.)

 

[Snakester]

We have the two hardest positions on the line to fill already filled with LT Humphries and C Mason Cole. I also think that RG Pugh is going to be fine as well. Finding a LG and a RT next year should be easy with the money we will have as well as draft picks.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Oh, I’m sorry about that, Shaggy, but I must admit that I will probably never get better at English grammar.

You do pretty well. I forget you are across the pond all the time.

 

[Cards_Campos]

Give me a modern day, creative offensive coordinator, and a half way decent offensive line paid like a half-way decent offensive line, and some wide receivers that can catch a football.

That's why I would take Lincoln Riley as our next coach

 

[gimpy]

So, since he is across the pond and speaking real English, maybe we should change ours from English to Americish?

 

[Cardiac]

Hump appears to be our LTOTF but I'd like some insurance since his injury history is a concern. Draft a OT that can play both OT spots.

Can Wetzel play OG? If so then lock him up long term because he seems to be a solid RT so he would be fantastic depth.

 

[Gandhi]

Your English grammar is still better than about 75% of the posters here.

(Look at the thread title - "Cardinal's"??? Oh, the humanity.)

Haha, thank you! I will try to do my best.

You do pretty well. I forget you are across the pond all the time.

I’m happy to hear that, Rugby. Thank you!

 

[oaken1]

Haha, thank you! I will try to do my best.



I’m happy to hear that, Rugby. Thank you!

does it ever get confusing?? Having americans say things one way then the english correct you to a different way? I watch some BBC shows and some shows on netflix and I often have to rewind to hear something again in hopes of understanding.

they are both called english but they are separate languages...much like puerto rican/spanish/mexican spanish

 

[Gandhi]

does it ever get confusing?? Having americans say things one way then the english correct you to a different way? I watch some BBC shows and some shows on netflix and I often have to rewind to hear something again in hopes of understanding.

they are both called english but they are separate languages...much like puerto rican/spanish/mexican spanish

Yes. Sometimes you guys use phrases that I don’t understand right away, but I didn’t know that your language was a bit different in English. English is not my first language either, so I don’t really discover the differences, and honestly, I don’t understand the meaning of many of them either. Well, I do know “something is rotten in Denmark” since that is where I come from, so I remember that one.

 

[JeffGollin]

You are partly right about that, Jeff. I consider the Saints’, the Rams’ and the Chargers’ offensive lines the best in the league right now, with the Rams’ a little in front of the two others.

The Rams were the only team last year that had the same combination of five players for 15 games after they stroke gold with left tackle Andrew Whitworth and center John Sullivan in free agency before last season. This season right guard Austin Blythe is the only new starter, while Aaron Kromer has been their offensive line coach in both 2017 and 2018, and now he is also their run game coordinator which means that he has even more control of what Todd Gurley needs and gets.

The Saints return all five starters from last season, though they didn’t play together last season for more than 10 games, and still they were easily the best offensive line in the league. They don’t even knew each other that well since right tackle Ryan Ramczyk was drafted in the 2017 draft, and right guard Larry Warford was signed in free agency 2017. I think that’s a tribute to offensive line coach Dan Roushar, offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael and head coach Sean Payton.

The Chargers’ offensive line has four starters that played together last season, while they have been inserting a new center this year. The line was good last season but have been fantastic so far this season. Last season they inserted three new starters, two of them during the season, so they haven’t been playing together for that long. This is only the offensive line coach, Pat Meyer’s, second season, but since the unit has four new starters since he was hired, a lot of the credit for their success has to go to him for his input and coaching. Also, their head coach, Anthony Lynn, has long had a focus on the offensive line as he was a runningback himself and later on has been a runningback coach for many years.

I think an interesting side note is that all three of those teams have both good quarterbacks and runningbacks what definitely makes an offensive line better.

I went through how the Cardinals have prioritized the unit since Keim was made general manager. You can read it by clicking here.

I also think Ray Brown is a good offensive line coach, but it takes time to form a good unit.

Sounds to me, Ghandhi, that one possible strategy should be to draft healthy, non-brittle offensive linemen and avoid talented high-potential dudes with injury-histories

 

[Gandhi]

Sounds to me, Ghandhi, that one possible strategy should be to draft healthy, non-brittle offensive linemen and avoid talented high-potential dudes with injury-histories

Actually, of the 15 combined starters on those three units, nine of them have been brought in from other teams in free agency (only one this year). Having said that, you are right in that of the players starting on those three units, that the teams drafted themselves, I would consider all six of them to have been healthy, no-nonsense guys, which I guess you are referring to, coming out of college. Only two of them have been drafted in the first round (and they are from Stanford and Wisconsin with those teams’ tough, hard-nosed offensive line-play), while the others were not considered among the best talents at their position before the draft. Some of them have gotten injuries in the NFL but were not at all considered injury prone before.

If you combine that type of player with continuity, then I think you have a very good chance at getting a good offensive line.

However, I can’t help but mention that your description fits D.J. Humphries perfectly.