Cardinals | Mutual interest to/from Andy Reid

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Thanks for the correction.



Of course they had more yards because they have Shady McCoy. The point I was making is that we have several posters who would prefer we run the ball more and that's not what Reid likes to do. I'm not saying Reid would be a bad hire simply noting that he likes to pass the ball far more than run it.

There was at least 2 years where Reid had the lowest run vs pass ratio in the entire league. Not saying it's a bad thing but once again just saying some fans will get irritated with how much Reid passes the ball.

In my defense I was defending the statement that Reid runs the ball "less" than Whiz and that is absolutely false. I think the biggest thing that most of these guys on here want is a solid to good offense regardless if it's on the ground or through the air.

 

[Hollywood]

Thanks for the correction.



Of course they had more yards because they have Shady McCoy. The point I was making is that we have several posters who would prefer we run the ball more and that's not what Reid likes to do. I'm not saying Reid would be a bad hire simply noting that he likes to pass the ball far more than run it.

There was at least 2 years where Reid had the lowest run vs pass ratio in the entire league. Not saying it's a bad thing but once again just saying some fans will get irritated with how much Reid passes the ball.

I don't care if we run or pass 75% of the time....just so long as we do it to score.

 

[Dr. Jones]

So bring in a guy whos got almost as crappy an OL as the guy who left?

I wish this years line could generate the rushing attack that they had. And they were missing Jason Peters.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I don't care if we run or pass 75% of the time....just so long as we do it to score.

And here are the Eagles ranks in PPG since 2002. Starting with 2002 they were 4th, 11th, 8th, 18th, 6th, 17th, 6th, 5th, 3rd, 8th and 29th this year. They were actually 15th in total yardage this year, inopportune turnovers (mostly Vick) cost them a lot of points, they turned the ball over 37 times.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Andy Reid is a coach who is out dated.

You are not going to find a good enough offensive line in this league that will be able to run the offense he wants.

Andy Reid's failure in Philly is a lot like Whiz's in AZ. Where Whiz's downfall came at QB, Reid's downfall came at offensive line.

Once Tre Thomas, John Runyan, and a few others I forget retired, Reid has been suffering ever since.

Not a fan of Andy Ried, not a fan of his offense, and not a fan of his coaching sytle.

I hope beyond hope it is not Ried.

 

[Hollywood]

Andy Reid is a coach who is out dated.

You are not going to find a good enough offensive line in this league that will be able to run the offense he wants.

Andy Reid's failure in Philly is a lot like Whiz's in AZ. Where Whiz's downfall came at QB, Reid's downfall came at offensive line.

Once Tre Thomas, John Runyan, and a few others I forget retired, Reid has been suffering ever since.

Not a fan of Andy Ried, not a fan of his offense, and not a fan of his coaching sytle.

I hope beyond hope it is not Ried.

How can you say that when the eagles ranked 8th in the league in ppg last season?

 

[Dr. Jones]

Andy Reid is a coach who is out dated.

You are not going to find a good enough offensive line in this league that will be able to run the offense he wants.

Andy Reid's failure in Philly is a lot like Whiz's in AZ. Where Whiz's downfall came at QB, Reid's downfall came at offensive line.

Once Tre Thomas, John Runyan, and a few others I forget retired, Reid has been suffering ever since.

Not a fan of Andy Ried, not a fan of his offense, and not a fan of his coaching sytle.

I hope beyond hope it is not Ried.

His offense is not outdated. They were the #13 rushing offense without Vick or McCoy for more than a quarter of the season.

Jason Peters is an All-Pro LT and he lost him like we lost Levi. And still was #13. Peters is light years better than Levi.

They suffered the minute Jim Johnson passed away. He has never been able to find a defense suited to play along side his offense. And he has (admittedly) made some horrible choices to replace him.

 

[Doc Cardinal]

My top HC picks:
Andy Reid
Bill Cowher
Brian Billick
John Gruden
Ray Horton

The Doc likes Dr. Jones' picks.

Me thinks the middle 3 will not be in coaching next year.....I'd say we end up with either Reid or Horton.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Who all is pumped for Denny Greene 2.0?!?!

Andy Reid is a coach who is out dated.

You are not going to find a good enough offensive line in this league that will be able to run the offense he wants.

Andy Reid's failure in Philly is a lot like Whiz's in AZ. Where Whiz's downfall came at QB, Reid's downfall came at offensive line.

Once Tre Thomas, John Runyan, and a few others I forget retired, Reid has been suffering ever since.

Not a fan of Andy Ried, not a fan of his offense, and not a fan of his coaching sytle.

I hope beyond hope it is not Ried.

The game hasn't completely past Reid by...yet! He would bring plenty of "street-cred" for players to buy what he's selling for a couple of years.

Bringing in Reid would be Mike Holmgren 2.0 IMHO.

I see a series of 6-10, 7-9, and 8-8 seasons if the Cards hire Reid.

 

[Chopper0080]

Andy Reid would be a great hire and those who think otherwise are kidding themselves.

He has been very successful in arguably the toughest division in the NFC for almost a decade. He has a proven offensive system that works which emphasizes a strong offensive line and is QB friendly enough to make Washington trade for Donovan McNabb, Miami trade for AJ Feeley, and Arizona trade for Kevin Kolb. Yes he had issues when he hitched his wagon to Michael Vick, but for a portion of 2011, Vick was the best QB in the game. His team also got worse as he tried to replace a Hall of Fame defensive coordinator in Jim Johnson. If he want to upgrade from Whis, Reid might be one of the few options out there to do so.

 

[Mitch]

Andy Reid would be a great hire and those who think otherwise are kidding themselves.

He has been very successful in arguably the toughest division in the NFC for almost a decade. He has a proven offensive system that works which emphasizes a strong offensive line and is QB friendly enough to make Washington trade for Donovan McNabb, Miami trade for AJ Feeley, and Arizona trade for Kevin Kolb. Yes he had issues when he hitched his wagon to Michael Vick, but for a portion of 2011, Vick was the best QB in the game. His team also got worse as he tried to replace a Hall of Fame defensive coordinator in Jim Johnson. If he want to upgrade from Whis, Reid might be one of the few options out there to do so.

Well stated and very accurate, imo.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Andy Reid would be a great hire and those who think otherwise are kidding themselves.

He has been very successful in arguably the toughest division in the NFC for almost a decade. He has a proven offensive system that works which emphasizes a strong offensive line and is QB friendly enough to make Washington trade for Donovan McNabb, Miami trade for AJ Feeley, and Arizona trade for Kevin Kolb. Yes he had issues when he hitched his wagon to Michael Vick, but for a portion of 2011, Vick was the best QB in the game. His team also got worse as he tried to replace a Hall of Fame defensive coordinator in Jim Johnson. If he want to upgrade from Whis, Reid might be one of the few options out there to do so.

Add to that the Cards may not have to lose money to sign him because much like how we owe Whiz 5.5M in 2013, the Eagles still owe Reid 6M for 2013 as well.

 

[sportznutt]

Bryce Brown finished the season with 564 rushing yards. Our top 2 rushers finished the season with 591 yards combined.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Bryce Brown finished the season with 564 rushing yards. Our top 2 rushers finished the season with 591 yards combined.

Bryce Brown arguably looked just as good as McCoy. That is a sign that that team had good run blocking.

 

[sportznutt]

Or of a good RB..........either way, it's a guy that Andy Reid helped bring in and work.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Or of a good RB..........either way, it's a guy that Andy Reid helped bring in and work.

True, but when I watched them I always felt like their line did a good job of getting their RB to the second level of the defense.

 

[sportznutt]

Yea, they seemed to open up holes for him.

Win/win!

 

[PACardsFan]

Andy Reid would be a great hire and those who think otherwise are kidding themselves.

He has been very successful in arguably the toughest division in the NFC for almost a decade. He has a proven offensive system that works which emphasizes a strong offensive line and is QB friendly enough to make Washington trade for Donovan McNabb, Miami trade for AJ Feeley, and Arizona trade for Kevin Kolb. Yes he had issues when he hitched his wagon to Michael Vick, but for a portion of 2011, Vick was the best QB in the game. His team also got worse as he tried to replace a Hall of Fame defensive coordinator in Jim Johnson. If he want to upgrade from Whis, Reid might be one of the few options out there to do so.

Reid has been an exceptional HC in the NFL. With a more accurate QB, he would have won a SB or two. I recently watched the 2008 NFC Championship Game. McNabb was just awful & missed wide open receivers all day. He did the same thing in the SB against the Patriots. My only concern or question is whether Reid has the fire in his belly to reproduce what he did in Philly. He still has so many personal isses at home! If he's gung-ho, he can be a great hire. But I can't help but remember that Denny Green came to us with a great resume also. I think the Bidwill's may shy away from Reid for that reason alone.

 

[sportznutt]

Reid has been an exceptional HC in the NFL. With a more accurate QB, he would have won a SB or two. I recently watched the 2008 NFC Championship Game. McNabb was just awful & missed wide open receivers all day. He did the same thing in the SB against the Patriots. My only concern or question is whether Reid has the fire in his belly to reproduce what he did in Philly. He still has so many personal isses at home! If he's gung-ho, he can be a great hire. But I can't help but remember that Denny Green came to us with a great resume also. I think the Bidwill's may shy away from Reid for that reason alone.

True, there are some similarites there, but I still think Reid is the best bet to get this franchise up and running sooner than later.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

True, there are some similarites there, but I still think Reid is the best bet to get this franchise up and running sooner than later.

And even though Green made the Playoffs a lot he was never effective in the playoffs. Reid is 10-9 in the playoffs and Green is 4-8.

 

[Mitch]

Reid has been an exceptional HC in the NFL. With a more accurate QB, he would have won a SB or two. I recently watched the 2008 NFC Championship Game. McNabb was just awful & missed wide open receivers all day. He did the same thing in the SB against the Patriots. My only concern or question is whether Reid has the fire in his belly to reproduce what he did in Philly. He still has so many personal isses at home! If he's gung-ho, he can be a great hire. But I can't help but remember that Denny Green came to us with a great resume also. I think the Bidwill's may shy away from Reid for that reason alone.

I hear your concern and think it's legitimate to ask.

However, Denny Green and Andy Reid are so completely different---Green was a get the talent in place and everything else will take care of itself coach who relied on X and O guys like Brian Billick to put the offense together.

When Green came to the Cardinals---he appointed unqualified OCs and when they were failing and he fired them, he had no clue as to how to fix the offensive woes. Nor did he want to put in the work and effort to do it.

Andy Reid, on the other hand, is as good an X's and O's man as there is in football---that's his greatest passion---that and coaching his talent up.

He's been very humbled the past few years---and this is a guy who has had to be resilient in order to succeed---so it's quite likely and even probable that he will treat his next HC job as if it was his first.

 

[sportznutt]

Imagine the chip on his shoulder + the chip on Norv's shoulder as OC + the chip on Rivers' shoulder...........

 

[football karma]

Imagine the chip on his shoulder + the chip on Norv's shoulder as OC + the chip on Rivers' shoulder...........

Norv Turner and Reid run completely different offenses

With Reid, no Turner

 

[Hollywood]

Norv Turner and Reid run completely different offenses

With Reid, no Turner

With Reid there is no need for Turner