Cardinals' Off-Season Preview With The Lockout Looming

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Well, well, well...all eyes are on March 5th...because that's the official date of the new NFL season and it is very much expected that a lockout imposed on the Players' Union by the NFL Owners is a fait accompli.

The gist of the owners' plight is that they want the new CBA to enact the following changes:

(1) A reduction of the 59.5% revenue figure that the owners currently have to allocate to the players. The owners complain that some organizations cannot make a profit in this struggling economy due to rising stadium costs and player salaries.

The problem is: the owners of such franchises do not wish to open their books to the Players' Union. Something smells very fishy about that.

Imagine what we and the players might learn about the Bidwills, for example. It's quite possible---especially the way they and other owners this year saved significant money on the previous year's salary cap (in the Cardinals' case it was nearly $30M---wow) that if we were to learn the exact number of the profits the Bidwills made in this year and in past years---that we would be so outraged, we would be loathe to buy tickets or merchandise ever again.

Fans would likely feel the disdain George Bailey felt toward Mr. Potter in It's A Wonderful Life.

And the players...they would feel even more screwed.

Prediction: Unless the owners open their books (which they absolutely will never do), there is no reason why the players should budge from the 59.5% figure.

The best compromise would be for owners to adopt a profit sharing system that would allow the more struggling owners a little more financial assistance (as they do in MLB)...which would mean that the owners would have to open their books to each other. Think that would ever happen? Do you honestly think the wealthiest owners could care less about the struggling ones?

Thus...this is where the new CBA hinges.

2. The owners want a salary scale for rookies selected in the NFL Draft that would prevent first rounders from entering the NFL at salaries that exceed the majority of veterans' on the team.

Prediction: This has a very good chance at passing. The veterans will want more money available to them...and the owners would rather pay deserving veterans. Plus...it's inane to throw millions at college athletes who have never played a snap of pro football.

3. The owners would like to add a 17th game in lieu of 1 pre-season game.

Prediction: as long as slightly larger rosters numbers are agreed to, this is going to pass...and eventually move to 2 pre-season games and 18 regular season games. This means more revenue for everyone. Thus, this is a slam dunk.

4. The owners would like to tweak the recent salary cap figures of approximately $129M maximum and $112M minimum.

Prediction: It's not certain at this time what figures the owners want to settle on, but there could be a scenario that would allow a struggling owner a one or two year grace period to go under the minimum. Again, however, this would behoove the struggling owner to open his books...so it just isn't likely this would ever happen at all.

5. Lastly (of the major issues on the table), the owners want more leverage with regard to getting back signing bonus money from players whom they consider breached the terms of their contracts.

Prediction: This one is sticky...because it involves a very detailed determination of why and when a player's contract can be considered as breached. This one could take considerable time and negotiating to solve.

The reality is...the looming lockout...comes at the worst imaginable time. Despite the struggling economy, the NFL, as a product, has been flourishing. The NFL has never been more popular...as a business---it has never been more lucrative. Football has clearly become the most popular sport in America.

If the owners do what everyone expects them to and they lockout the players come March 5...and a new CBA isn't agreed to in short order...the owners will be as nationally abhored and villified as the unconscionable Wall Street and mortgage company white shirts who fleeced average Americans for billions of dollars.

While this may seem a tad overstated...if it's one thing the average American John and Jane do not ever wish to feel---it's being ripped off by greedy capitalists whose cups are already flowing over.

The owners are tightly-knit group, aren't they? Look at how many of them feathered their nests this year. One gets the sense that they prepared for next year's potential strike year by squeezing as many dollars as they could out of the fans this year. It's quite possible that some of the owners have already made a portion of the profits they would make next year...so they can sit tight as long as they wish.

Many of the owners have covered their tails too by negotiating stadium agreements where they do not have to pay stadium fees in a strike year.

How many of the owners have been signing players to new deals?

There are a record number of unsigned players in limbo---many of whom---like Deuce Lutui---were screwed out of free agency last year. A new batch of 4th and 5th year players awaits this year.

The thing is...what happens if the lockout drags into the middle of the summer? Let's say hypothetically that a new CBA is agreed to in late July. What happens then? Will we see the biggest flurry of free agent activity ever??? All in a matter of a couple of weeks???

What happens with the 2011 NFL Draft? For the first time, teams will not be fully aware of what their biggest needs are because they haven't signed any free agents yet who would already address those needs.

For the first time the draftees will not know what their salaries will look like...how will that affect the players who are on the fence about whether to declare for the draft or not?

What's likely to happen is that teams will feel all the more pressured to draft for need---y'know the old bird in hand adage.

This would put the Cardinals in a precarious dilemma---if they knew going into the draft they had already re-signed Larry Fitzgerald and signed a free agent OLB like Lamarr Woodley, for example---do you think that would change their thinking in the draft?

You bet.

And get this---while it has rarely been proved that free agents have been tampered with prior to the beginning of free agency---which always makes you wonder how some high profile guys are signed at the tick of midnight---this year the tampering may be rampantly egregious, as teams try to know whom they can count on, if and when the CBA is agreed to.

What I fear---as I did this year when the Bidwills cut most the corners they could (and look what happened---as they say---"you get what you pay for")---the Cardinals will be completely unprepared for what to expect and thus will twiddle their thumbs once again---they will try to tell us they are building the team the Pittsburgh way---through the draft and through adding a couple of mid-range free agents---which is akin to what I have come to understand when a woman informs me that she is "old-fashioned." What that really means---she expects the guy to arrange and pay for everything.

It seems that given any excuse to do little to nothing---the Cardinals will.

Let's see if there's any movement from the Cardinals' FO between now and March 5th. Anyone have an inkling of what the FO might do between now and then?
 
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The only move that will be made IMO is dropping Bill Avis, Graves will not act until March 7th.
 

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Little Billy Bidwill is a Cardinal fans best friend, He has our back and will not comprimise his principles. he has been a Cardinal fan longer than most of us have been alive.The players and the coaches are not! Bank it.

Bill is not Jerry Jones making his money elsewhere and buying the Cowboys for a retirement hobby. Bill has bled in the trenches of building this NFl we love so much. He has dedicted his entrire life to a Bad football team, worse ever professional franchise in the history of earth, He owes no apoligies, He has out survived tons of defunct teams,leagues, towns and flashy owners.

He has carried burdens by himself that have sent characters like Jerrry Jones packing, this aint his first Rodeo in players unions. He sen his dad build the Million dollar backfield and die before the championship. No Owner has anything over Bill in proffesional football experience. He's even defended the Pottsville cursed 1925 championship Title. You don't push Billy Around, Billy won't budge!

The NFl is saturated with success, how many more fans can they dig up to buy 275$ black Cardinal Jerseys? Its capped out. The teams share revenues hence they share their numbers with other teams, They do care about the small market teams and have for decades, some years thjey carry Green Bay some years Green Bay carries them. That is the point of the NFL compared to other sports like stupid Baseball.

I wrote a long posts with my flexible predictiond in another thread. But I just wanted to defend Bill Bidwill, He is not the problem with NFL, Bill is tyhe solution. He keeps to the spirit of the salary cap against our WILL! for the good of the NFL, Now is the reckoning, this year this CBA, after paying the loan he took out to by ownership of the Cardinals from his brother Stormy in 1970, bill has eaned his money after almost 80 years.

Since his daddy saved the Cardinals and the Bears from extinction in the 1930's. Bill Bidwill owes us nothing, We owe him. You take your billion dollars a year and spend it how you want in fans interest. but I trust Bill with the tough calls, and the future of the NFL. He's beyond tempered He's the NFL's rock of Gibaltar, keep smacking up on him see who breaks who.
 

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Sometimes it seems like talking bad about the Bidwills is a taboo subject on this board. I've seen certain ones do it and get the no-no and shame-shame fingers pointed at them. No one wants to believe that they root for a team with some of the worst owners out there.

Well, it's nice to see someone (Mitch) point the finger in the right direction...at the Bidwills.

There are a lot of contributing factors but this season was mainly tanked by the Bidwills.

I think it was K9 who mentioned in a thread that B. Davis will be brought back because no coach could do that well with the players this team fielded. Sadly, that sentiment contains more truth than not.

The LB situation on this team is the worst in the NFL and that brought the defense to it's knees. That situation could have been avoided by not looking for the nickle and dime way out.

The same can be said for the offense in regards to the QB situation...worst in the NFL. The Bidwills took the cheap way out and got what they paid for.

One thing I was hoping to get out of all this lock out mess is that a light will be shown on the Bidwills cheap nickle and dime ways. I believe that if the Bidwills books were opened up, disdain from the fans would be putting it lightly. To use a phrase from Mr. Potter himself, I believe they (the Bidwills) would be run out of town on a rail.

Look, it's okay to still love and root for this team (I do). I just don't do it with my eyes closed to the real problem. M. Bidwill seems to be more in charge now and that has been a good thing and his results have been better than papa bowtie.

However, as long as a Bidwill is in charge the fans of this team will have to endure missing out on top FA's, losing your own players to higher bidders, more down seasons than up, etc...etc... :bang:
 

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well if the new cba has added 2 new games look for the cap to go up another 16 mil. Right now its at 8.125 mil per game and if you add 2 more game looks like the players and the oweners would redo the TV contracts to reflect the added games. Also that could ask for more due to the viewing of NFL games has gone up. Bank on that.
 

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I may be wrong, but I think that Many DC's would have had this team ready to play every week. They were lost every week 50% of the plays, yea, big play or bust has really worked out well for us on defense.

Bill Davis' defense looks exactly like clancy's defense and vice versa. Whats the difference since Denny left?
Under Denny, Clancy went from bottom to middle to top 10, whiz took over and we went exactly opposite losing many Denny's drafted players.

We need a break don't bend 3-4 defense like Pittsburg or the Ravens. A committment to tackiling and stopping opponents first, turnovers as a result.

We have been a turnover first defense and pretty good, but were last in everything else including the worse division ever.
 

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And get this---while it has rarely been proved that free agents have been tampered with prior to the beginning of free agency---which always makes you wonder how some high profile guys are signed at the tick of midnight---this year the tampering may be rampantly egregious, as teams try to know whom they can count on, if and when the CBA is agreed to.

This is exactly what will happen. Some teams will make under the table deals with FA's prior to the draft so they'll know exactly what positions they need to fill in the draft and will have a tremendous advantage over those that don't.

I think smart teams trade picks in 2011 for extra picks in 2012 and 2013 because if the lockout goes to late Summer like you say it means a lot less time working with the rookies and the entire draft class will be behind maybe for years. This was mentioned in an article talking about how difficult it may be to draft a QB in 2011 because of the reduced workout time.
 

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The owners have already won, The Players union strategy is to stop being a union and have agents take on individual teams over players contracts.

Upshaws golden goose is cooked. 2009 in went up to 60% at its peak and the owners refused the option years. Its already over. the owners offered 40% in good faith, but its agent and owners now.

The Union is a mute point. sign or sit, If your a union player your locked out! bye end of story.



This is exactly what will happen. Some teams will make under the table deals with FA's prior to the draft so they'll know exactly what positions they need to fill in the draft and will have a tremendous advantage over those that don't.

I think smart teams trade picks in 2011 for extra picks in 2012 and 2013 because if the lockout goes to late Summer like you say it means a lot less time working with the rookies and the entire draft class will be behind maybe for years. This was mentioned in an article talking about how difficult it may be to draft a QB in 2011 because of the reduced workout time.
 

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Very informative post. I will add one thing. If this drags on to long the Juniors coming out for the draft may likely stay in college for another year as there will have been no contract between the players & owners and the college kids may not want to not have a job when they can go back to college on scholarship. All the top QBs are Juniors. Then look at what happens to the colleges who have already offered scholarships to new players coming in and have filled all there vacancies. Suddenly they have all there stars ready to come back to school for another year. I suspect the schools will have to honor the scholarship offers and the players who decide to come back will have to pay their own way.

Cam Newton would be back at Auburn. Luck will be back at his school and Mallet would be back at Arkansas. The following years draft would be loaded with good players.

I do not know how but I think some deal will be worked out as the players and the owners will be enormous losers not just for a year but for some years. All that Direct TV money will be flushed down the drain and the football TV lovers may switch to Comcast or Dish. This is really big not only for football but for the nations economy. I would not be surprised to see the Government get involved in a negotiated settlement. If I saw the Bidwills books I would probably throw up all over my self and wonder how could I be a fan of a franchise run by such cheap owners.
 

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Little Billy Bidwill is a Cardinal fans best friend, He has our back and will not comprimise his principles. he has been a Cardinal fan longer than most of us have been alive.The players and the coaches are not! Bank it.

Who cares if anyone on or working for the team is a Cardinal's fan? All I want is a good product on the field that results in wins, winning seasons and championships. Whiz and Graves could wear Pittsburg underoos to bed every night and it shouldn't matter; only wins matter.

Bidwill being a Cardinal fan longer than most of us only tells me he tolerates failure and clearly doesn't feel the need to provide a quality product for his consumer base (the fans).

Cardinal Mike!!

Note: I know better than to respond to trolls but I couldn't help myself. This is the best troll we've had since NEM so savor it gentlemen!
 

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I Care

Guess i'm a so and so, but I stillcare.

I think Reggie Bush's agent should have brang enough cookies to share with the entire NCAA championship team.
buts thats just me.

I think players on steroids have an unfair advantage over high character athletes.

I think the vikings hurt the NFL with the HUTCH contract.

Daniel Snyder should have learned more lessons by now,

The Denver Broncos will fire their HC for repeating the same violations he committed with Patriots. regardless of the Coach's name or record.

there is something wrong about being an ingrate, a child learns better. some men forget.

integrity and dignity matters, nice guys finish last alot, but they sleep well.






Who cares if anyone on or working for the team is a Cardinal's fan? All I want is a good product on the field that results in wins, winning seasons and championships. Whiz and Graves could wear Pittsburg underoos to bed every night and it shouldn't matter; only wins matter.

Bidwill being a Cardinal fan longer than most of us only tells me he tolerates failure and clearly doesn't feel the need to provide a quality product for his consumer base (the fans).

Cardinal Mike!!

Note: I know better than to respond to trolls but I couldn't help myself. This is the best troll we've had since NEM so savor it gentlemen!
 

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Guess i'm a so and so, but I stillcare.

there is something wrong about being an ingrate, a child learns better. some men forget.

integrity and dignity matters, nice guys finish last alot, but they sleep well.

I care about the integrity of a NFL team's employees/ownership as much as I do about the integrity of the company that makes the Snicker's bar I'm about to eat.

I expect Mars, Inc to provide me with a delicious candy bar just like I expect the Arizona Cardinals Football Club LLC to provide me with a winning football team.

I'm sure Forrest Mars Jr (CEO Mars, Inc) has been a Snickers fan longer than most of us but that doesn't mean I'd accept crap in a Snickers wrapper anymore than I accept crap in Cardinal's uniforms.

Cardinal Mike
 

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I care about the integrity of a NFL team's employees/ownership as much as I do about the integrity of the company that makes the Snicker's bar I'm about to eat.

I expect Mars, Inc to provide me with a delicious candy bar just like I expect the Arizona Cardinals Football Club LLC to provide me with a winning football team.

I'm sure Forrest Mars Jr (CEO Mars, Inc) has been a Snickers fan longer than most of us but that doesn't mean I'd accept crap in a Snickers wrapper anymore than I except crap in Cardinal's uniforms.

Cardinal Mike
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I sure wish that I had a handle on just what happened last pre-season. My gut tells me that Bow-Tie and Michael had nothing to do with ML being jettisoned for DA. That being said, I am positive as I can be that the decision was made by Whiz and Whiz alone. After carrying ML through several seasons, I still believe that Ownership and the FO wanted to see ML at QB in 2010, if for nothing more than to see if they had made the right choice of him as their QBOF before his big money kicked in.

I believe that once Whiz, (who has not got a great record of meshing with real QB's), decided to make the switch, it became imperative for him to get rid of ML, (if for no other reason than), because it would be impossible that way to have have Leinart start after DA failed, and instantly prove how bad a decision this was. Now that question is subject to speculation, making it harder to call Whiz on his mistake.

I am not about to say that we would have won the SB with Matt Leinart at QB. I do believe that we would have won our division with him at the helm though, even with our lack of a pass rush, and with the poor linebacking corps we ended up with. I really believe that Matt would have checked out of many of Whiz's failed play calls, just as KW did while he was driving the team. I still believe that Whiz is a bad play-caller, and a worse time manager.

I am not saying that he should not get a chance to redeem himself next year though. With his previous record here, he deserves that chance. I do believe, however, that if left to his own devices, he will fail miserably at trying to fix the mess that he created.

I believe that Skelton is possibly our next QBOF. He is not starter ready yet though. I love his measurables, and his pocket presence. He seems to have a great sense of where he is and where the enemy is. He shows quick feet, and can make all the throws. He also uses good judgement in knowing when to get rid of the ball. He needs work with a real QB coach who can get him right with the footwork, and he needs to get much deeper into the playbook, so that he knows WHERE and WHEN to look for his receivers. I would like to see him have at least one more year on the bench observing, and being tutored.

I would opt for bringing in a capable journeyman veteran, (like Hasslebeck), to run the team for next year. I suspect that he may be available, because I think that Seattle will go after Leinart, and have him and Charlie Whitehurst compete for the starting job. We could do worse at QB, Whiz has already proven that.

If Ownership banked 30 mil. to hedge their position against a possible lockout, I can hardly blame them. They earned their money the hard way, without having a stadium or big revenue stream prior to UofP Stadium. Even so, there is a solid core of talent around which to build a decent team, provided that they get a REAL GM who has power over Whiz. Graves seems to actually be sub-serviant to Whiz in the scheme of things, (a bad spot to be for a GM). I would hire a football wize and proven GM, (and I would trust him to evaluate the coaching staff, and make any necessary changes). After Whiz's poor showing at calling plays as a HC, I seriously doubt that a GM would allow that practice to continue.

I like that Whiz has, for the most part, used free agency to fill needs, and the draft to build future talent. A real GM might be very helpful in the selection of both types of players, and might provide a much needed assist by providing and added bonus of being someone who might actually draw good players to him.

If we did these things, Whizenhunt might just return to Haley-like times and redeem himself, and the team, without costing ownership an arm and a leg during hard times. If not, a real GM will have exposed him by the bye week, and a mid-season change might be in order, (provided there is a season).
 

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Mike & Mulli, I understand and respect your position. next time I see you at a Snickers game I'll remember to wave and cheer for the home team. I'll tolerate the loud Willy wonka fans screaming out drunken obsenities as our hometown snickers melt into a pile of goo with peanuts on Monday Night Snack Down. Looks kind of like a sick puppies poo or something.

Has snickers ever wrote a billion dollars worth of checks in Arizona?

Appreciate your post Catfish. I'm really torn, My real problem is that Whiz says one thing then does another. Like running the ball again and again and again. Edge, Beanie THT doesn't matter.

Or passing the ball with Kurt, ML, DA, Max, SKELTON, again, again, again and again.

I have no new Idea, I think Our staff sucks cause The Cardinals as a whole have never recovered since the Saints play off destruction. I see the same team that gave up with 6 minutes left in the 3rd 1/4 of our 3rd divisional playoff game ever.

The same team that ran the feature RB 2 times at that point in the game, after THT busted a lead on the opening play. Reminds me of Ron Whites Joke" that boy has alot of quit in him"

We look like a team that wants to big play or trick our way to the playoffs, high pressure offense, high risk defense. basically don't work that way, long term in the NFL.

With KW it worked 9-7 times, Edge was the difference maker in the playoffs, without edge we don't have a SB, and We would have won it if Edge was featured in it. IMO

We have fallen and we can't get up. Cards have taken on the Whizard of AZ's personality, problem is were back in Kansas, and we look stupid in red slippers. with monkeys flying out our AZ.
 
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I don't ever see the players agreeing to an 18 game schedule, so I expect no NFL football in 2011.
 

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I'm torn too Smel-----but I do feel that despite my personal feelings about Whiz, he has earned another shot to fix this mess. No other coach in Cards history has accomplished what he has. I respect that.

Having worked for a guy like him previously, I really doubt his ability to accomplish anything other than more mess. That is why I say that a real GM will let him hang himself, then fix the problem himself, (midseason). I do believe that a real GM is imperative, however, if this is to work. Graves would be powerless to act against Whiz IMO. Good stuff Mitch-----this is going to be a real interesting off-season.
 

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It happened in the NHL and don't think for one minute it couldn't happen in the NFL.

How will the owner's make more money with an 18 game schedule? They already make season ticket holder BUY 2 pre season games and player's salaries are not factored into their pay checks.

Here's another question to ponder. If the players get 59.9 % of the revenue.....of what revenue? Ticket sales? Ticket sales and parking? Ticket sales, parking and concession? Ticket sales, parking, concessions and luxury box revenue? All of the above and TV revenue?

I find it hard to believe that the 130M salary cap adds up to ALL gross or net revenue.

I am fully preparing myself mentally for no football in 2011. I WILL NOT support anything but professional football with professional football players, a complete full slate 16 game schedule and playoffs. If this drags out to the middle of september and their "solution" is to play a 10 game schedule, count me out and shame on anybody that supports anything less than what we have been paying for up to this point.

Remember who we are dealing with...very rich and powerful individuals in their own right who easily forget where their millions and billions have come from...US.
 

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The idea of no free agency before the draft is absolutely frightening, though it could make for some BLOCKBUSTER draft day deals. Desperate teams vying for a guaranteed player, giving up picks to fill a hole they are not sure they can fill.

Basically, I just want to be able to sign Lamarr Woodley so we can draft AJ Green. This is my current dream scenario.
 

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It happened in the NHL and don't think for one minute it couldn't happen in the NFL.

How will the owner's make more money with an 18 game schedule? They already make season ticket holder BUY 2 pre season games and player's salaries are not factored into their pay checks.

Here's another question to ponder. If the players get 59.9 % of the revenue.....of what revenue? Ticket sales? Ticket sales and parking? Ticket sales, parking and concession? Ticket sales, parking, concessions and luxury box revenue? All of the above and TV revenue?

I find it hard to believe that the 130M salary cap adds up to ALL gross or net revenue.

I am fully preparing myself mentally for no football in 2011. I WILL NOT support anything but professional football with professional football players, a complete full slate 16 game schedule and playoffs. If this drags out to the middle of september and their "solution" is to play a 10 game schedule, count me out and shame on anybody that supports anything less than what we have been paying for up to this point.

Remember who we are dealing with...very rich and powerful individuals in their own right who easily forget where their millions and billions have come from...US.

Television money. Preseason games pay considerably less than regular season games, because the audience is much smaller, and hence the ad revenue is smaller.
 

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Television money. Preseason games pay considerably less than regular season games, because the audience is much smaller, and hence the ad revenue is smaller.

They are already receiving mega dollar's for television rights already. Adding 2 games would also add to operating cost, salaries, etc.
Television rights for 2 extra games cannot be the main factor. it just doesn't add up to me.
 

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Well, well, well...all eyes are on March 5th...because that's the official date of the new NFL season and it is very much expected that a lockout imposed on the Players' Union by the NFL Owners is a fait accompli.

The gist of the owners' plight is that they want the new CBA to enact the following changes:

(1) A reduction of the 59.5% revenue figure that the owners currently have to allocate to the players. The owners complain that some organizations cannot make a profit in this struggling economy due to rising stadium costs and player salaries.

The problem is: the owners of such franchises do not wish to open their books to the Players' Union. Something smells very fishy about that.

Imagine what we and the players might learn about the Bidwills, for example. It's quite possible---especially the way they and other owners this year saved significant money on the previous year's salary cap (in the Cardinals' case it was nearly $30M---wow) that if we were to learn the exact number of the profits the Bidwills made in this year and in past years---that we would be so outraged, we would be loathe to buy tickets or merchandise ever again.
Fans would likely feel the disdain George Bailey felt toward Mr. Potter in It's A Wonderful Life.

And the players...they would feel even more screwed.

Prediction: Unless the owners open their books (which they absolutely will never do), there is no reason why the players should budge from the 59.5% figure.

The best compromise would be for owners to adopt a profit sharing system that would allow the more struggling owners a little more financial assistance (as they do in MLB)...which would mean that the owners would have to open their books to each other. Think that would ever happen? Do you honestly think the wealthiest owners could care less about the struggling ones?

Thus...this is where the new CBA hinges.

2. The owners want a salary scale for rookies selected in the NFL Draft that would prevent first rounders from entering the NFL at salaries that exceed the majority of veterans' on the team.

Prediction: This has a very good chance at passing. The veterans will want more money available to them...and the owners would rather pay deserving veterans. Plus...it's inane to throw millions at college athletes who have never played a snap of pro football.

3. The owners would like to add a 17th game in lieu of 1 pre-season game.

Prediction: as long as slightly larger rosters numbers are agreed to, this is going to pass...and eventually move to 2 pre-season games and 18 regular season games. This means more revenue for everyone. Thus, this is a slam dunk.

4. The owners would like to tweak the recent salary cap figures of approximately $129M maximum and $112M minimum.

Prediction: It's not certain at this time what figures the owners want to settle on, but there could be a scenario that would allow a struggling owner a one or two year grace period to go under the minimum. Again, however, this would behoove the struggling owner to open his books...so it just isn't likely this would ever happen at all.

5. Lastly (of the major issues on the table), the owners want more leverage with regard to getting back signing bonus money from players whom they consider breached the terms of their contracts.

Prediction: This one is sticky...because it involves a very detailed determination of why and when a player's contract can be considered as breached. This one could take considerable time and negotiating to solve.

The reality is...the looming lockout...comes at the worst imaginable time. Despite the struggling economy, the NFL, as a product, has been flourishing. The NFL has never been more popular...as a business---it has never been more lucrative. Football has clearly become the most popular sport in America.

If the owners do what everyone expects them to and they lockout the players come March 5...and a new CBA isn't agreed to in short order...the owners will be as nationally abhored and villified as the unconscionable Wall Street and mortgage company white shirts who fleeced average Americans for billions of dollars.

While this may seem a tad overstated...if it's one thing the average American John and Jane do not ever wish to feel---it's being ripped off by greedy capitalists whose cups are already flowing over.

The owners are tightly-knit group, aren't they? Look at how many of them feathered their nests this year. One gets the sense that they prepared for next year's potential strike year by squeezing as many dollars as they could out of the fans this year. It's quite possible that some of the owners have already made a portion of the profits they would make next year...so they can sit tight as long as they wish.

Many of the owners have covered their tails too by negotiating stadium agreements where they do not have to pay stadium fees in a strike year.

How many of the owners have been signing players to new deals?

There are a record number of unsigned players in limbo---many of whom---like Deuce Lutui---were screwed out of free agency last year. A new batch of 4th and 5th year players awaits this year.

The thing is...what happens if the lockout drags into the middle of the summer? Let's say hypothetically that a new CBA is agreed to in late July. What happens then? Will we see the biggest flurry of free agent activity ever??? All in a matter of a couple of weeks???

What happens with the 2011 NFL Draft? For the first time, teams will not be fully aware of what their biggest needs are because they haven't signed any free agents yet who would already address those needs.

For the first time the draftees will not know what their salaries will look like...how will that affect the players who are on the fence about whether to declare for the draft or not?

What's likely to happen is that teams will feel all the more pressured to draft for need---y'know the old bird in hand adage.

This would put the Cardinals in a precarious dilemma---if they knew going into the draft they had already re-signed Larry Fitzgerald and signed a free agent OLB like Lamarr Woodley, for example---do you think that would change their thinking in the draft?

You bet.

And get this---while it has rarely been proved that free agents have been tampered with prior to the beginning of free agency---which always makes you wonder how some high profile guys are signed at the tick of midnight---this year the tampering may be rampantly egregious, as teams try to know whom they can count on, if and when the CBA is agreed to.

What I fear---as I did this year when the Bidwills cut most the corners they could (and look what happened---as they say---"you get what you pay for")---the Cardinals will be completely unprepared for what to expect and thus will twiddle their thumbs once again---they will try to tell us they are building the team the Pittsburgh way---through the draft and through adding a couple of mid-range free agents---which is akin to what I have come to understand when a woman informs me that she is "old-fashioned." What that really means---she expects the guy to arrange and pay for everything.

It seems that given any excuse to do little to nothing---the Cardinals will.

Let's see if there's any movement from the Cardinals' FO between now and March 5th. Anyone have an inkling of what the FO might do between now and then?

Mitch, I usually agree with your assessment, but you are way off here (see bolded portion). Fitzgerald is going to make $33 million in 3 years and you have a problem with the Cardinals making $30 million in one year considering the net worth of the team and the total dollars they have at risk?

You aren't being very realistic.
 

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Mitch, I usually agree with your assessment, but you are way off here (see bolded portion). Fitzgerald is going to make $33 million in 3 years and you have a problem with the Cardinals making $30 million in one year considering the net worth of the team and the total dollars they have at risk?

You aren't being very realistic.

I'm not too worried about the Bidwill's financial picture. They have an asset worth 3/4 of a billion dollars with a guaranteed gross income from TV of $135 million (2009). Plus now they have naming rights and luxury box income.

A good article on the Bears franchise that is sort of similar to the Cards in that it is still owned by the same family and is they do not have another business to provide income.

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0...-chicago-football-money-midgets-midway_3.html
 

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I WILL NOT support anything but professional football with professional football players,

You will too. Look how long you've supported the Cardinals.

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A couple of things.

Don't defend someone as a good owner just because they are a "good" person.

Let's get this straight right now, from all I've heard, minus the normal disfunctional stuff you hear about from time to time, Mr. B seems to me to be a good guy.

His business sense IMO is terrible, atrocious, abysmal.

Please don't lecture anyone on what it takes to survive in a business that is based on a monopoly and revenue sharing model that makes it nearly impossible to go out of business from being bad.

The salary cap is not really the type of cap that forces a team to spend, in reality you can scrimp on things, staff, coaches, signing bonuses and simply get good at timing things and appear to be competeing when in reality you're not.

It dosen't matter what we think is enough, it's about what is normal in the NFL.

I suspect and do not know for sure but I strongly suspect that Mitch is right, we'll never see open books, because if we did then we could easily compare one team to the next year after year.

If we did this and I could see the team spending right up to what they could then I'd shut up about this forever and just assume that it's not cheapness but just woeful decision making that's made us this bad or possibly lack of resources in the first place.

With a new stadium and with everything that's going on you really need to connect the dots, as unpleasant as it might be, it's the only way to pressure real change.

The owner does not have to spend all they can, but they do owe you the fan a real effort, year after year and you the fan need to be able to evaluate that.

We can already do this, if you just look at this team's track record it's terrible, even with the short run of success we got out of lately.

You don't need to see the books to know we suck, you only need to see them to know possibly more about why.
 
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