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One yr at 8.5m if he hits his escalators is that right?
One yr at 8.5m if he hits his escalators is that right?
Yeah I'm thinking he has base with the wording.Says up to 8.5m...so not sure what his actual salary will be yet.
Oh, I thought it would save us like $2M or around there? I guess not so that's a good point. I just don't see us re-signing him once his contract is up so I thought it might not be a bad idea to get something for him this off-season but if we're wanting to make a playoff push then it makes sense to keep him for depth at this point.
His salary is guaranteed this season so cutting him only creates dead cap...trading him however would free up over $2 million.
nobody is trading for him unfortunately
first move I'm not crazy about. that's a lot of scratch for a ok LB coming from an atrocious D.
I love that we are trying to put together a competitive roster made not of old has beens but guys all entering their primes.
Hopkins - 27
Campbell - 26
Kennard - 28
Phillips - 27
Also no injury concerns.
This is a solidly executed plan that doesn't remotely resemble any off season in recent memory
tight end coverage!!!Campbell has developed as a player during his four seasons with the Falcons after the team selected him in the fourth round of the 2016 NFL Draft and has started a total of 59 games, including five playoff games. Campbell was the Falcons' leading tackler in both 2019 and 2018, finishing those seasons with 129 and 94 tackles, respectively. He also provides versatility in coverage for Atlanta and is the player the Falcons often like to match up against opposing tight ends.
https://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/report-falcons-de-vondre-campbell-s-agent-have-preliminary-talks
I think you're spot on with the replacement level receivers. Doubt it will be Kirk but you just never know how things play out. Hope the other 3 work out. I've been thinking about this ever since we got Hopkins. KK said he just didn't have the players to use 10 personnel much in so many words, during last season. I think he really wants to. He wants to challenge a defense with 4 elite WR's & see what happens because most teams have 2-3 CB's so there's an advantage to gain there. Just a possibility & I know it's crazy but trade down to number 12-13, gain their 2nd round pick & maybe more? Then draft Lamb or Jeudy, even Ruggs. It would be the most lethal WR group in the NFL. Draft an OT with the 2nd round pick we gain. I think Justin Murray has potential & with a full season under Kugler he can possibly reach it. I believe our FO & Kugler are very high on him. Murray is probably still clambering for Lamb even after getting Hopkins & I bet the thought of that type of talent on offense is being discussed by KK & SK. Probably won't happen, I'm not even wanting it to happen but it wouldn't shock me if it does. Imagine the nightmares DC's would have thinking of ways to stop it. I like the balance factor & how KK adapted using TE's but in the back of my mind, I just know how bad he wants 4 badass WR's for 10 personnel.I could see a trade back and just taking BPA and that might be a WR.
Right now they are plugging every hole they have with either a starter from last year or a free agent.
I am on the Wirfs train but the Kirk / Johnson / Butler / Isabella might all just be replacement level receivers.
It's tough to cover all the athletic TEs these days when you have no pass rush like the Falcons. No LB can cover an athletic TE forever. Pass rush isn't a big issue for us thanks to Chandler Jones. From the little I've watched Campbell he moves well in space, much better than Reddick ever will. He is much taller as well. This doesn't mean he is great in coverage, but there is no doubt he will look better than Reddick, Walker or whoever we tried out last season.Consensus for Falcons fans was that he was awful trying to cover TEs. If that’s the case, he’ll fit right in with VJ’s defense.
I think you're spot on with the replacement level receivers. Doubt it will be Kirk but you just never know how things play out. Hope the other 3 work out. I've been thinking about this ever since we got Hopkins. KK said he just didn't have the players to use 10 personnel much in so many words, during last season. I think he really wants to. He wants to challenge a defense with 4 elite WR's & see what happens because most teams have 2-3 CB's so there's an advantage to gain there. Just a possibility & I know it's crazy but trade down to number 12-13, gain their 2nd round pick & maybe more? Then draft Lamb or Jeudy, even Ruggs. It would be the most lethal WR group in the NFL. Draft an OT with the 2nd round pick we gain. I think Justin Murray has potential & with a full season under Kugler he can possibly reach it. I believe our FO & Kugler are very high on him. Murray is probably still clambering for Lamb even after getting Hopkins & I bet the thought of that type of talent on offense is being discussed by KK & SK. Probably won't happen, I'm not even wanting it to happen but it wouldn't shock me if it does. Imagine the nightmares DC's would have thinking of ways to stop it. I like the balance factor & how KK adapted using TE's but in the back of my mind, I just know how bad he wants 4 badass WR's for 10 personnel.
I liked Campbell coming out of college but he was super raw. Long and athletic LB. I don't know that he is great at anything, but he is good at almost everything. He is similar to Kennard in that he is not much better than league average, but he is a guy who you can depend on to do a job. I think our signings are a great step into upgrading to a league average defense and I expect to see similar results as we saw with our offensive line last year. We won't be the best, but we will definitely not be the worst.
A starting 4 LBs of...
OLB - Chandler Jones
ILB - Jordan Hicks
ILB - DeVondre Campbell
OLB - Devon Kennard
is about as good as a group of LBs as I have seen with the Cardinals. A very versatile group and a step closer to respectability.
I mean why not? He's already signed players to plug holes on defense, traded for one of the best WR's so why not go get another one in the draft? Larry may not play beyond 2020 so by drafting one you have his future replacement. I know Simmons, Brown, Wirfs or Wills would be hard to pass up but being able to trade down, gain the 2nd round pick back & get Lamb? Just a thought but I'll bet you anything it's being discussed amongst KK, KM, SK & MB.It might cause some chaos on draft day for fans but I can see Keim doing something like this... making a strength even stronger.
If we gain a 2nd again it's definately possible. But I don't see it right now. If they pull that off Keim might be crowned valley king!I think you're spot on with the replacement level receivers. Doubt it will be Kirk but you just never know how things play out. Hope the other 3 work out. I've been thinking about this ever since we got Hopkins. KK said he just didn't have the players to use 10 personnel much in so many words, during last season. I think he really wants to. He wants to challenge a defense with 4 elite WR's & see what happens because most teams have 2-3 CB's so there's an advantage to gain there. Just a possibility & I know it's crazy but trade down to number 12-13, gain their 2nd round pick & maybe more? Then draft Lamb or Jeudy, even Ruggs. It would be the most lethal WR group in the NFL. Draft an OT with the 2nd round pick we gain. I think Justin Murray has potential & with a full season under Kugler he can possibly reach it. I believe our FO & Kugler are very high on him. Murray is probably still clambering for Lamb even after getting Hopkins & I bet the thought of that type of talent on offense is being discussed by KK & SK. Probably won't happen, I'm not even wanting it to happen but it wouldn't shock me if it does. Imagine the nightmares DC's would have thinking of ways to stop it. I like the balance factor & how KK adapted using TE's but in the back of my mind, I just know how bad he wants 4 badass WR's for 10 personnel.
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I mean why not? He's already signed players to plug holes on defense, traded for one of the best WR's so why not go get another one in the draft? Larry may not play beyond 2020 so by drafting one you have his future replacement. I know Simmons, Brown, Wirfs or Wills would be hard to pass up but being able to trade down, gain the 2nd round pick back & get Lamb? Just a thought but I'll bet you anything it's being discussed amongst KK, KM, SK & MB.
I think you're spot on with the replacement level receivers. Doubt it will be Kirk but you just never know how things play out. Hope the other 3 work out. I've been thinking about this ever since we got Hopkins. KK said he just didn't have the players to use 10 personnel much in so many words, during last season. I think he really wants to. He wants to challenge a defense with 4 elite WR's & see what happens because most teams have 2-3 CB's so there's an advantage to gain there. Just a possibility & I know it's crazy but trade down to number 12-13, gain their 2nd round pick & maybe more? Then draft Lamb or Jeudy, even Ruggs. It would be the most lethal WR group in the NFL. Draft an OT with the 2nd round pick we gain. I think Justin Murray has potential & with a full season under Kugler he can possibly reach it. I believe our FO & Kugler are very high on him. Murray is probably still clambering for Lamb even after getting Hopkins & I bet the thought of that type of talent on offense is being discussed by KK & SK. Probably won't happen, I'm not even wanting it to happen but it wouldn't shock me if it does. Imagine the nightmares DC's would have thinking of ways to stop it. I like the balance factor & how KK adapted using TE's but in the back of my mind, I just know how bad he wants 4 badass WR's for 10 personnel.
I'd like for the Cardinals to draft a young, size/speed guy in the mid rounds to develop at LB.