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1. Saturday 1/1/11 4 PM EST. The significance of this is that teams have until then to re-sign players AND be able to assign portions of the signing bonuses to this year's team salary figures (capless year).

With all the $$$ the Bidwills saved this year...it sure would be nice to get contracts secured for G Deuce Lutui, WR Steve Breaston, C Lyle Sendlein, DE Alan Branch, etc.

While they are at it...how about using some of the saved money to make WR Larry Fitzgerald a career Arizona Cardinal---the date 1-1-11 is an auspicious sign for doing right by Fitz.

2. I believe that over the past few years the team learned more about winning from QB Kurt Warner than any of the coaches---do you remember Warner being interviewed following games that preceded the playoffs? Do you remember how often Warner talked about the "mentality" it takes to win playoff games---and how he had been instructing his teammates about what it takes to prepare and win?

The thing that is glaringly missing without Warner is the spontaneous in-game play calls in key situations---where Warner and the WRs would discuss what they thought would be wide open in the right situations (especially on 3rd downs and in the Red Zone) and they would even draw the plays in the dirt if they had to.

What Whiz was so smart about was giving Warner the autonomy to make such adjustments---much the way Tony Dungy and Tom Moore did with Peyton Manning.

One of the most lasting images I have of Warner is how the cameras showed him taking notes on the sidelines while the team was getting their butts handed to them by the Packers in the last regular season game last year. There is no question in my mind that Warner was drafting the blueprint for the following week's stunning victory...a victory which required Warner and the offense to score virtually every time they touched the ball---which is practically what Warner and the offense did.

I think that Packer game may be the best and most clutch quarterbacked game I have ever seen---certainly for a Cardinal QB.

For all of these reasons and more...I would do everything and anything possible to sign Warner as the offensive coordinator---and I would even be tempted to sign him as the head coach.

While Warner may appear to be content working as a FOX analyst---and he's pretty darned good at it already---there is little doubt that Warner thrives on competition (especially the mental part of it) so much that the offer to have him coach might excite him very much.

Interestingly, there was an article about the Chiefs recently where Todd Haley told the media how he learned "in recent years" that sometimes it is best to "draw up plays in the dirt" because making spontaneous in-game adjustments can mean the difference between winning and losing.

Wonder where Haley got that from?

I think of the sheer fun Warner and Haley had drawing up plays each week and on the plane rides...as they did on the way to Carolina where they conjured up the flea flicker pass to Fitz...to cite one example.

I will say this...all we've been hearing from Whiz in his remarks about John Skelton is how he's leaving many plays out there because he's not finding the open WRs...well, Warner would take care of this, because with Warner the primary and secondary options and progressions would be much clearer and much more quickly and effectively communicated.

I am not saying that Whiz is throughly incompetent at this. I just strongly believe that Warner is brilliant at it...Warner played the position---he mastered it and he understands it---he knows what a QB sees and thinks better than anyone else. And he picks up on the nuances of coverages so much faster---which is why teams were doo-dooing in their pants at the thought of blitzing him.

Another major reason for turning to Warner as OC is that Whiz is too tough a coach on QBs---he's too exacting---too non-commital (can he ever decide on a QB?)---too vague in his communication. Warner knows what environment a QB needs in order to be consistently successful---and he himself---despite having to play every year for his job under Whisenhunt, ugh, save the last one---managed to wrest the ultimate control of the offense away from Whiz---and Whiz was smart to let it go.

Moreover---Warner was about the HUNGRIEST QB the Cardinals have ever seen---not only for wins---but for STATS. Warner was insatiable when it came to his desire to put up huge numbers---not only for himself but especially for his WRs and his RBs.

THAT has been alarmingly absent this year---especially in Whiz, who never met a 4th and 1 he liked this year---which is why he punted and punted and punted...worst of all, he punted several times on 4th and inches.

Shows no confidence in the offense and the QB---and damages their morale.

3. I would like to know who Kurt Warner would want the Cardinals to sign as a free agent QB next year. I wonder what he really thinks about Marc Bulger.

The thing is...Bulger in recent years seemed to have very little HUNGER for winning or for stats. One Ram player last year said that Bulger brought "no presence" to the position. And---be honest---did you ever worry about playing the Rams with Bulger at QB?

In my Predicting the 2010 Roster thread...I was predicting what the Cardinals will do---not what I would do.

I don't like Bulger. I only liked him when he was playing soft against us.

But...if Kurt Warner thought he could whip Bulger up...that he could get him hungry...I'd be very interested to see what would happen.

The matchup of Whiz and Bulger seems like a disaster---

Whiz likes his QBs tough---first and foremost---like Warner was, tough as nails.

The minute Bulger takes a dive the way DA did on a few occasions this year---Whiz will be looking over to the bench.

4. This is why John Skelton has a fighting chance to make it as the Cardinals starting QB. He does not play afraid. Plus, he's so sturdy in the pocket and can maneuver well with his feet. That's a special ability.

Max Hall doesn't play afraid either---but he's like the terrier who barks at a coyote---the problem is---he will have to get much stronger physically, the way Drew Bress did, and he has to be much more clever about how to duck, slither and avoid the big hits.

But can you imagine how prepared Skelton would be with Kurt Warner walking him through the paces?

Wow.

Kurt Warner was the best thing to ever happen to the Arizona Cardinals.

Go and bring him back.

Great post as always, but sadly I completely agree with what Cardiac said....in that, what makes you think Kurt has any desire to be an OC or Head Coach? The hours involved to actually be good at those positions are crazy, and Kurt (seemingly) wants to do more with his life than to be the one genius on staff who figures out not to punt on 4th and inches with your season on the line.
 

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Another question.....I've never really heard of this 1/1 rule. Do teams really use this loophole b/c I can't really remember guys getting signed to new contracts this late in the season for any team? Anyone have examples of teams actually doing this?

We in the past have signed guys to extensions at certain dates so as to put some of the money in the current year. It wasn't 1/1 but the rules are funky right now because of the CBA situation. Assuming Mitch is right about it, it would have been very smart for teams to do that since this is an uncapped year, but only if the owners expect the new CBA to not do something about the loophole. There's just so much uncertainty about what the new situation will be that signing extensions is a scary proposition for any team, especially small budget owners like the Bidwills.
 

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I can think of a guy known as nothing but "The Great One." I believe he possessed all of the qualities as a player you describe in Warner. How did that translate to coaching????

Im not opposed to your scenario, not at all, in fact, Id support it whole-heartedly. But I by no means would consider it a lock to be a success.
 

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. We all know with this F.O. 1-1-11 will come and go with zero movement. With two days left to hit that deadline its just that: dead.

No doubt...a pipedream by Mitch & us the fans. The Cards have played their hand for 3 straight years...unwilling to sign most of their own & damn well will not do it with a lockout fast approaching. Bye-bye Breaston, Branch, Fitz, etc. :bang::bang::bang: The mass exit continues.
 

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You still have to have a competent offensive line....and teams picked their poison. If you know they can put up huge passing numbers, but their running game can be stopped and the team is prone to making mistakes (2005 21 interceptions and 26 fumbles!), then you stack the box, dare them to throw, stop the run on the way to the QB.

Now if that team DOESN'T turnover the ball and has a somewhat competent offensive line (our line was atrocious that year), then you won't be able to run. It's funny you don't believe this, but clearly most NFL coaches do.

Most NFL coaches aren't any smarter than the average fan who follows football they just happened to know somebody who got them a job with a football team so who cares what they think.

Of course there you go again blaming everything on our terrible offensive line. Can't run the ball? It's the offensive line. How did we get the #1 pass offense in the NFL in 2005 and #2 in 2008? Because we had an awful offensive line. Why does our defense tend to blow leads and have trouble coming out of the gate in both the first and second halves of games? Because we have a terrible offensive line.

Crazy stuff scarecrow. You don't turnover the ball and you have a competent offensive line and you won't be able to run the ball? Even when you have two wide receivers like Fitz and Boldin?????

Sorry but I don't think that passing and running are interrelated at all. You pass well because you are committed to passing and you run well because you are committed to running. It's that simple.
 

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Most NFL coaches aren't any smarter than the average fan who follows football they just happened to know somebody who got them a job with a football team so who cares what they think.

Wow. I really hope this is tongue and cheek.

How did we get the #1 pass offense in the NFL in 2005 and #2 in 2008?

Uh, because we had a hall a fame qb with arguably the quickest release of all time, who was willing to take a number of hellacious shots to make a play? Oh and two potential hall of fame receivers, with a competent #3 doesn't hurt.



You pass well because you are committed to passing and you run well because you are committed to running. It's that simple.

I think you're confusing simple for simplistic. You pass well and rush well because you have competent personnel that stick to an effective game plan. Just committing to one or the other is not a formula for success.
 

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Wow. I really hope this is tongue and cheek.

Uh, because we had a hall a fame qb with arguably the quickest release of all time, who was willing to take a number of hellacious shots to make a play? Oh and two potential hall of fame receivers, with a competent #3 doesn't hurt.

I think you're confusing simple for simplistic. You pass well and rush well because you have competent personnel that stick to an effective game plan. Just committing to one or the other is not a formula for success.

No I really believe that most fans vastly overrate the coaches. Just listen to the coaches when the get in the broadcast booth. The reason that Belichik wins all the time is that most of the rest of the guys aren't that good. Heck the fans here want to run off half the Cards coaching staff for being incompetent.

Point #2 I was just ribbing KTS for blaming everything on the offensive line. But to help you get off your high horse Josh McCown started six games for the Cards in 2005.

Point #3 Teams have success all the time just committing to one or the other. The other part of the game is a complement to what you are committed to do. The Vikings and Titans are committed to the run. Cards and Colts are passing teams. A few teams can do both but not many.
 
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I dont believe Kurt would want the job, but if I was the Bidwills I would be doing anything and everything to get him on board. I truly believe he would be a great OC!
 

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. We all know with this F.O. 1-1-11 will come and go with zero movement. With two days left to hit that deadline its just that: dead.

Does anyone know of a single NFL team that has given one of their players a long term contract in the past two weeks?

With the new contract coming up, I think all of the teams have pulled their heads in and are waiting to see what happens.
 
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