Cardinals | Williams done for season (probably torn patellar)

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and the idea that even if he can come back that he'll be able to do so by TC is REALLY unlikely... to near impossible. Cadillac blew his knee out in Week 4 of the 2007 season and couldn't get back on the field until Week 12 of the 2008 season where he was a shell of himself. That was a full 15 months before he could get back on the actual field and even then, he was a waste of space.
 

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Folks on both sides of this issue are right.

It's unfair to blame management for failing to predict that our star rookie RB would be injured on his first carry in Game 2.

Disagree, he was coming off an injury last yr. At that position in the NFL you can't have enough of a good thing.

At the same time, 65 years of following NFL football tells me that, just when you think you're talented and deep at a position is precisely the time when you trade a guy to clear out the logjam only to have one of the guys "you cleared the logjam for" go out for at least the season.

Having three established runners isn't a logjam imo. The jury is still out on Smith.
It's just one of those annoying pranks the Football Gods amuse themselves by doing.

In other way to look at is - "If we didn't trade THT, Beanie would wind up gaining 2,000 yards, LSH would be our 3rd down specialist and THT or R Williams would get zero touches.

One other thing lost in the shuffle - My ideal #3 RB would be a 210+ lb tough guy who can (a) run between the tackles, (b) catch out of the backfield, (c) pass protect and (d) be someone solid - who the coaches could trust not to screw up and to make plays when asked to.

In my opinion, Alfonso Smith came close to fitting that description to a tee last night.

By God I hope your right about Smith. But right now we're one BW injury away from having a potentially disastrous running game and ruining a crucial season for resigning LF. And that's a scary thought bc Beannie has shown no propensity for being durable. Hopefully this is the year. A lot is riding on it NOW.
 

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and the idea that even if he can come back that he'll be able to do so by TC is REALLY unlikely... to near impossible. Cadillac blew his knee out in Week 4 of the 2007 season and couldn't get back on the field until Week 12 of the 2008 season where he was a shell of himself. That was a full 15 months before he could get back on the actual field and even then, he was a waste of space.

Tweet from Ryan:

It happens, doc said recoveries from this injury are very good so expect a very strong ru next year with a even bigger chip on my shoulder

PS: Cadillac had two almost identical injuries
 

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Texted my mom who is a physical therapist about recovery time for patella tendon tear, and there are a couple things to note:

1. She thought I tore mine and freaked out because she woke up to the message (hehe)

2. She said partial tear that doesnt require surgery = 4-6 weeks, full tear that requires surgery = 9- 12 weeks.

I don't know if that is to "football strength" but maybe thats a glimmer of hope he can make it back by the playoffs.
 

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and the idea that even if he can come back that he'll be able to do so by TC is REALLY unlikely... to near impossible. Cadillac blew his knee out in Week 4 of the 2007 season and couldn't get back on the field until Week 12 of the 2008 season where he was a shell of himself. That was a full 15 months before he could get back on the actual field and even then, he was a waste of space.

You're making a comparison without knowing all the facts. Cadillac tore the patellar tendon in his left knee in 07, fifteen months later he tore the patellar tendon in his RIGHT knee. That's why his career went downhill he had TWO major knee injuries 15 months apart and why his stats went down south. Tore the first one in the 4th game, then tore the other one in his 6th game of the next season so he had only 10 games in 2 years while doing all that rehab.

When he did the second one Williams mentioned teammate Mark Jones had the exact same injury and like Cadillac's 2nd injury(but not his first), the tendon tore completely away from the bone which made it MUCH easier to do the surgery. Jones missed 8 games and was back and played a full season the next year as a kick returner.

It's worse for a RB no doubt all the wear and tear on the legs but it really depends on the severity of the injury, apparently a full tear away from the bone is GOOD, it's easier to repair.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3798969
 

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you're right... and my father who's been an orthopod for 40 years and my best friend who's an orthopod at the Mayo clinic are wrong. what do they know? they're only two of the most respected people in Phoenix who actually deal with this type of injury for a living.

That's pretty cool that they do that. I love the Mayo clinic. Used to live by there and my dad went there for his chronic back issues.

I have a friend who just graduated from Harvard med and is doing his residency in San Diego asn orthopedist. I also have several friends on surgical rotations who go to Midwestern Univ. D.O. program in Glendale, including my wife (who's doing all of her rotations in L.A.).

There is little to indicate that his career is shot, especially after his consult today with physicians. Sports med revolutionizes almost every year. An ACL tear used to be automatically considered a 10-12 month recovery. Now, it's much less (dependent on the patient of course).

Athletes like Williams, who are well conditioned, bounce back from an injury like this faster and easier than the average Joe. He also has at his disposal the best surgeons, physical therapists, and sports psychologists who specialize in keeping players even keeled and not getting down on themselves.

I'm not trying to mitigate the injury (nor discount your father's or friend's experience as doctors), but I have to imagine based on my research and asking around that it is far from the end of his career. If all goes well, he should be back by the time TC starts.
 
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Multiple sources have confirmed that Cardinals rookie RB Ryan Williams has a ruptured patella tendon and no additional damage.

Williams will undergo season-ending surgery early next week. While he has youth and time on his side, there's a chance Williams will never take the field at the NFL level again. Though the Cards plan to add a backup caliber runner before Week 1, Beanie Wells projects to be a bell cow in Williams' absence.

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Very highly unlikely. Even if it's a complete tear. As I mentioned before, it would have to be a complete tear along with major setbacks in rehabilitation.

Patellar tendon injuries aren't the death sentence they once were. Consider the fact that the kid is 21. It'll take him a while to get back to game action, but he should be ready for next TC

But its not being reported as a tear; word is its ruptered.
 

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my brother does bone cancer surgery at MD Anderson in Houston and when I told him about the injury he said that Williams could recover but the chances of him being at the level he once was with the quicks and power will probably not be the same :(
 

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I wonder how many of these doctors that are saying he probably won't be able to come back to his previous level are versed in sports medicine?
 

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