Cards and WRs in the draft

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some interesting developments at the combine yesterday that could impact where some WRs go in the draft --

1. Kendall Wright runs a 4.6. "Consensus" is that is shouldnt hurt his stock, because he has lots of tape showing greater football speed -- but at the same time, a 4.35 time (or so) from Wright might have pushed him up above the #13 spot.

2. Micheal Floyd ran in the 4.4s -- and given his size, should help him. Floyd is a name i keep hearing Somers and Jurecki mention in interviews -- and that tells me that its a name that they keep hearing from the Cardinals. It doesnt hurt that Floyd says he patterns his game after Fitz's.

3. Juron Criner of Arizona runs a 4.59. I really like Criner as an all around, NFL ready wideout , and as actually happy to see him run a relatively slow time -- he could be there in the third where I think he would be a great pickup.

4. Stephen Hill of Georgia Tech runs in the 4.3s. This is a super talented, long (6'-3') young (redshirt soph I beleive) WR who played in GTs option offense. So -- will need coaching on route running and playing in a NFL offense. His knock is his hands are inconsistent: spectacular grabs on one play, drops an easy one the next. Note: I watched a lot of GT football this year -- the speed on the field is real, but as a wr: inconsistent. Apparently, all the other skills measurements (vertical, cone, etc) were off the charts. Very curious to see where he goes. Prior to the combine: i would have predicted 3rd or 4th round -- now, I think some team will see another Calvin Johnson held back by playing in the option offense and pick him earlier.
 

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My only comment is that Tommie Streeter will not be available by the 3rd round.

6'5" and just ran a 4.4, 40-yard dash.

His stock will be going way up, IMO.
 

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Alshon Jeffrey. Who? Combined the talents of the incredible shrinking man and the invisible man. Advice for A J, Do not accept an invite to the Green Room on Draft day.

Kendall Wright. Just became a slot receiver. Bet he runs faster at Baylor's Pro Day.

Michael Floyd. Moving up incrementally. If some team gets past his off field issues, he could be #1 WR taken in draft.

Justin Blackmon. Still over rated.

Tommy Streeter. Continues to prove his early exit from Miami was a huge $$$$ mistake. Great combine measurables but no body of work. Not a good catcher of balls and does not run routes nor separate. One more year at Miami under Al Golden's staff and he might have been the #1 receiver next year. He will spend 2 years in the NFL learning to be a WR.
 

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Guys I would luv to see the Cards get a hold of:

In order
1)Wright-his speed would change coverage
2)Chris Givens-way underrated & produced at Wake, fast
3)Jarius Wright-see #1
4)Greg Childs-if his knee gets healthy, he's the best Ark WR
5)Ryan Broyles-fabulous WR at OU who can do it all. Stock will slide because knee injury will probably shelve him for the year. He will be a game breaking slot WR when healed!
6)BJ Cunningham-big & produced at high level
 
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My only comment is that Tommie Streeter will not be available by the 3rd round.

6'5" and just ran a 4.4, 40-yard dash.

His stock will be going way up, IMO.

might be in the same boat as Stephen Hill: athletically what you look for, but the on field wr play raises questions. How much time will it take to develop him?

Mayock made a point during the Combine coverage to say that on film, Streeter didn't play to his timed speed.
 

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some interesting developments at the combine yesterday that could impact where some WRs go in the draft --

1. Kendall Wright runs a 4.6. "Consensus" is that is shouldnt hurt his stock, because he has lots of tape showing greater football speed -- but at the same time, a 4.35 time (or so) from Wright might have pushed him up above the #13 spot.

2. Micheal Floyd ran in the 4.4s -- and given his size, should help him. Floyd is a name i keep hearing Somers and Jurecki mention in interviews -- and that tells me that its a name that they keep hearing from the Cardinals. It doesnt hurt that Floyd says he patterns his game after Fitz's.

3. Juron Criner of Arizona runs a 4.59. I really like Criner as an all around, NFL ready wideout , and as actually happy to see him run a relatively slow time -- he could be there in the third where I think he would be a great pickup.

4. Stephen Hill of Georgia Tech runs in the 4.3s. This is a super talented, long (6'-3') young (redshirt soph I beleive) WR who played in GTs option offense. So -- will need coaching on route running and playing in a NFL offense. His knock is his hands are inconsistent: spectacular grabs on one play, drops an easy one the next. Note: I watched a lot of GT football this year -- the speed on the field is real, but as a wr: inconsistent. Apparently, all the other skills measurements (vertical, cone, etc) were off the charts. Very curious to see where he goes. Prior to the combine: i would have predicted 3rd or 4th round -- now, I think some team will see another Calvin Johnson held back by playing in the option offense and pick him earlier.

I've been a fan of Criner for awhile now he isn't blazer, plays alot like Fitz more of a body position guy. At this point I'm hoping for a trade down if we can somehow recoup our 2nd he could be there don't think he makes it into the 3rd. My only problem with him is I would perfer a deep threat/ fast WR to play oppisite of Fitz, and hes not that, but niether was Boldin so I think it could work.
 

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My impressions...

Kendall Wright plays faster than his timed speed. I was shocked at his time, but I have seen that he can be a deep threat is this league. Still 2nd or 3rd best WR in the class.

The Blackmon comparison to Anquan Boldin seems more accurate the more I see him. Obviously a tough and emotional kid, but his lack of size and speed would worry me. Unlike Wright, he didn't play extremely fast in college, but did play much bigger than his size. I see him as a 5-15 pick player rather than a top 5 guy.

Floyd showed more timed speed than I thought. More of a competition between him and Wright than I thought. It will probably come down to a team preference.

Stephen Hill impressed me more with his hands and polish in drills than at the 40. He will be a first rounder with Jeffrey/Sanu/Randle looking like 2nd rounders. Too much talent to pass up, and too many teams with needs at WR late in round 1.

Streeter showed a lack of focus that concerned me. He was however, very fast as expected.

Some other later guys that I liked...

AJ Jenkins. Quick, iffy hands, but can makes plays deep. 3rd to 5th round guy.

Ryan Broyles. Coming off injury, but has a relatioship with Fitz (stayed at his house/worked out with him) and was explosive when healthy. He is a 4th - 6th round option, but he seems like a hard worker.

James Rodgers. His size and lack of timed speed will make him a 6th, 7th or UDFA, but this kid is polished, explosive in short areas, and is a worker. HE brings some return ability and will contribute in the pros.
 

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Cardinals and WRs in the draft:

After blowing their first round selection on Clyde Duncan it was 15 years before the Cards took another WR in round one in Boston in 1999. Talk about being twice shy!

Since then the Cards have taken only 2 more, Bryant Johnson in 2003 and Fitz in 2004. So only 3 of their last 28 first round picks have been WRs.

The Cards leading pass catcher for 10 of the last 12 years has been a first round Arizona Cardinals draft pick. 2nd round picks Boldin and Sanders led the team 4 times so for 14 years in a row a #1 or #2 pick has been the teams leading WR. It's 16 years in a row if you count Rob Moore who was acquired with a first round pick in a trade.

On the other hand Roy Green and Pat Tilley were 4th round picks and Mel Gray a 6th. Sonny Randle was a 19th round pick!
 

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Guys I would luv to see the Cards get a hold of:

In order
1)Wright-his speed would change coverage
2)Chris Givens-way underrated & produced at Wake, fast
3)Jarius Wright-see #1
4)Greg Childs-if his knee gets healthy, he's the best Ark WR
5)Ryan Broyles-fabulous WR at OU who can do it all. Stock will slide because knee injury will probably shelve him for the year. He will be a game breaking slot WR when healed!
6)BJ Cunningham-big & produced at high level

Chris Givens is real.
 

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If Floyd is there in round 1, you gotta consider him. If he is not, and Criner is there in round 3, you gotta consider him. He is faster than his 40 time indicates, and is a great route runner and has some of the best hands in the draft this year. Not necessarily a "field stretcher" but Roberts and Housler can be effective in that category when you have a guy like Criner who can, similar to Fitz, catch just about anything near him and sheds coverage well.
 

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Also, since his name came up, James Rodgers is going to be a fantastic ST player somewhere, a la LSH.
 

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Anyone know anything about TJ Graham? I first heard him mentioned at the Senior Bowl by Scott Wright, and if we're looking for a speed WR later in the draft his name popped into my head.

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/f4/cards-and-wrs-in-the-draft-176142.html

North Carolina St. WR T.J. Graham doesn’t get a lot of publicity but that will soon begin to change if he continues to play like he did today. Graham just seems to be on a completely different level when it comes to speed, burst, acceleration, change of direction and explosiveness than just about anyone else on the field. Graham was simply uncoverable at times. A smooth athlete with fantastic feet, Graham also saw action as a kick returner and the North DB’s simply couldn’t cover the speedster. Graham’s performance today reminded me of Mike Wallace when the former Ole Miss and current Pittsburgh Steelers star was in Mobile a few years ago
 

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Just remember that when you draft a WR, that's one less pick you have available to add an offensive lineman or pass rusher.
 

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some interesting developments at the combine yesterday that could impact where some WRs go in the draft --

1. Kendall Wright runs a 4.6. "Consensus" is that is shouldnt hurt his stock, because he has lots of tape showing greater football speed -- but at the same time, a 4.35 time (or so) from Wright might have pushed him up above the #13 spot.

This has a different time for Wright. Will check the NFL site.

http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/2012/nfl-combine-results.cfm?sort=FortyTime&pos=WR
 

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Just remember that when you draft a WR, that's one less pick you have available to add an offensive lineman or pass rusher.

I'll put that with my reminder that if I pick an ________ you have one less pick for a ________ and a _______.
 

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If we go WR I want Floyd. He has sick hands and is looooooong. The fact that he ran that fast makes him even more appealing IMO.
 

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Devier Posey had a nice combine and would likely have been a 2nd round pick if not for the suspension. He needs to be looked at if he sitting there in round 4 or later. But that's doubtful.
 
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