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Cardinals believe in McCown
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Green confident of young QB's abilities

Kent Somers
The Arizona Republic
Mar. 28, 2004 12:00 AM


The Cardinals have 10 minicamp practices scheduled before the NFL draft next month, giving new coach Dennis Green plenty of time to see exactly what he has in quarterback Josh McCown.

But Green doesn't need the time. He's not using the two minicamps as proving grounds for the inexperienced McCown.

"No, I'm sold on Josh," he said. "I'm not curious at all."

It's been almost a mantra for Green since he named McCown the starter in early February. No one seems to believe him, not with the Cardinals having the third overall pick in the draft and either Eli Manning or Ben Roethlisberger, the top two quarterbacks, likely available to them.

But Green is steadfast in his belief that McCown can lead the Cardinals to the playoffs, something they've achieved just once since moving to Arizona in 1988.

Green does have a track record. In 10 years in Minnesota, the Vikings went to the playoffs eight times. More remarkably, they did it with seven different starting quarterbacks.

If McCown, a third-round pick in 2002, succeeds, he'll be a shining example of Green's philosophy that it doesn't matter where a player is drafted, it's how he plays once he arrives.

"I think as the players see Josh rise up, they have to do the exact same thing," Green said. "He's not a franchise player. He's not a bonus baby No. 1 pick. He's a guy that was a backup last year who is getting his opportunity under a new coaching staff, and all the other players can get that same opportunity.

"And so I think they need to look at him as an example of what can be right about their own particular careers."

It's a leap of faith. McCown was shaky in spot appearances last year, until he started the final three games. In those, he displayed a strong arm, great running ability and a toughness that his teammates rallied around.

"There's a lot we're going to see," tight end Freddie Jones said. "He has the type of talent that there is always going to be more for him to do."

Through most of last season, even Cardinals officials were skeptical about McCown's future. Rod Graves, the team's vice president of football operations, voiced concerns about McCown's skittish performances.

But McCown turned heads in the final three games, and Green was impressed by what he saw on video.

McCown credits his improvement to a natural maturation and an increased understanding of NFL defenses, a process that was accelerated by his three starts last year.

"Everything is so much more clear now," he said. "If I could put him (Green) in my head and he could know how much I understand, how much I know right now and how far I've come, he would be that much more confident."

McCown is in the process of learning Green's offense, which is a hybrid of Bill Walsh's West Coast offense and other schemes. It's the same offense used by Baltimore and Indianapolis, and McCown gets excited when he thinks of the possibilities.

"It will be fun, hopefully," he said. "I think that's what made his (Green's) quarterbacks successful, the freedom that he gave them. That's what I'm excited about."
 

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Through most of last season, even Cardinals officials were skeptical about McCown's future. Rod Graves, the team's vice president of football operations, voiced concerns about McCown's skittish performances.
This is one of the biggest concerns I have about McCown's ability to lead this team. He was dressed down in a very public manner by the Cardinals. I worry about his teammate's confidence in him.
 

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Green moved Ray Ray to the weak side LB for a better pass rush, something that people mentioned last year on this site. Supposedly Pace and Rogers both came up lame and injured during practice, which isn't good for either being that they need to impress Green.
 

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Pariah said:
This is one of the biggest concerns I have about McCown's ability to lead this team. He was dressed down in a very public manner by the Cardinals. I worry about his teammate's confidence in him.


Freddie Jones comments should help to ease your concerns. He was dressed down in the public? I dont see graves saying hes skeptical as being deressed down? It also said he was skeptical prior to his three starts.
 

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Shane H said:
Freddie Jones comments should help to ease your concerns. He was dressed down in the public? I dont see graves saying hes skeptical as being deressed down? It also said he was skeptical prior to his three starts.

I agree. Isn't being skeptical a part of a GM's job description until a player proves they can play at a Pro Bowl level?
 

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Shane H said:
Freddie Jones comments should help to ease your concerns. He was dressed down in the public? I dont see graves saying hes skeptical as being deressed down? It also said he was skeptical prior to his three starts.
Yeah, I'd say calling someone a "deer in the headlights" is being dressed down.

Like I've said before, I like McCown, and I think he can be a pretty good QB, but I just don't think it'll be with the Cards. If we don't draft a QB in the first two rounds (and I realize it's not likely), then I really hope I'm wrong (which has happened once or twice in the past).
 

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Crimson Warrior said:
This language goes beyond "smoke screen". After reading this, I think there is no way were taking a QB in the first round.
I agree... I think it's Fitz or M. Williams, guaranteed. We won't be looking for a QB until next year if need be. Physically, Josh has all the tools. We just have to see what's in his head. :shrug: I'm rootin' for the kid...
 

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azdad1978 said:
Cardinals believe in McCown
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Green confident of young QB's abilities

Kent Somers
The Arizona Republic
Mar. 28, 2004 12:00 AM


The Cardinals have 10 minicamp practices scheduled before the NFL draft next month, giving new coach Dennis Green plenty of time to see exactly what he has in quarterback Josh McCown.

But Green doesn't need the time. He's not using the two minicamps as proving grounds for the inexperienced McCown.

"No, I'm sold on Josh," he said. "I'm not curious at all."

It's been almost a mantra for Green since he named McCown the starter in early February. No one seems to believe him, not with the Cardinals having the third overall pick in the draft and either Eli Manning or Ben Roethlisberger, the top two quarterbacks, likely available to them.

But Green is steadfast in his belief that McCown can lead the Cardinals to the playoffs, something they've achieved just once since moving to Arizona in 1988.

Green does have a track record. In 10 years in Minnesota, the Vikings went to the playoffs eight times. More remarkably, they did it with seven different starting quarterbacks.

If McCown, a third-round pick in 2002, succeeds, he'll be a shining example of Green's philosophy that it doesn't matter where a player is drafted, it's how he plays once he arrives.

"I think as the players see Josh rise up, they have to do the exact same thing," Green said. "He's not a franchise player. He's not a bonus baby No. 1 pick. He's a guy that was a backup last year who is getting his opportunity under a new coaching staff, and all the other players can get that same opportunity.

"And so I think they need to look at him as an example of what can be right about their own particular careers."

It's a leap of faith. McCown was shaky in spot appearances last year, until he started the final three games. In those, he displayed a strong arm, great running ability and a toughness that his teammates rallied around.

"There's a lot we're going to see," tight end Freddie Jones said. "He has the type of talent that there is always going to be more for him to do."

Through most of last season, even Cardinals officials were skeptical about McCown's future. Rod Graves, the team's vice president of football operations, voiced concerns about McCown's skittish performances.

But McCown turned heads in the final three games, and Green was impressed by what he saw on video.

McCown credits his improvement to a natural maturation and an increased understanding of NFL defenses, a process that was accelerated by his three starts last year.

"Everything is so much more clear now," he said. "If I could put him (Green) in my head and he could know how much I understand, how much I know right now and how far I've come, he would be that much more confident."

McCown is in the process of learning Green's offense, which is a hybrid of Bill Walsh's West Coast offense and other schemes. It's the same offense used by Baltimore and Indianapolis, and McCown gets excited when he thinks of the possibilities.

"It will be fun, hopefully," he said. "I think that's what made his (Green's) quarterbacks successful, the freedom that he gave them. That's what I'm excited about."

I have wondered why Green was so adament about McCown being his man right out of the gate. He left himself no wiggle room. Perhaps to give McCown confidence. It appears he has himself boxed in at this point and would not draft a QB no matter what so I take him at his word. I do not agree but if he says over and over no QB then that is that so I will have to get over it. We will know about 5 games into the season if Green knows what he is talking about. It does not take forever to figure a QB out. If McCown falls on his face I hope Green is not hard headed and refuse to switch to a backup after a reasonable amount of time. We do not want to spend the entire season grooming a QB because of the effect it will have on the fans, other players, and our ability to entice players to come to Airizona.
 

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john h said:
I have wondered why Green was so adament about McCown being his man right out of the gate. He left himself no wiggle room. Perhaps to give McCown confidence. It appears he has himself boxed in at this point and would not draft a QB no matter what so I take him at his word. I do not agree but if he says over and over no QB then that is that so I will have to get over it. We will know about 5 games into the season if Green knows what he is talking about. It does not take forever to figure a QB out. If McCown falls on his face I hope Green is not hard headed and refuse to switch to a backup after a reasonable amount of time. We do not want to spend the entire season grooming a QB because of the effect it will have on the fans, other players, and our ability to entice players to come to Airizona.

Not correct... Green stated that McCown was going in to the season as the starter even if a Qb was drafted at #3, because Green wouldn't start a rookie.
 
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