Cards bringing in 9 players

[Shaggy]

Did you see Butler attempt to make a tackle? Pathetic. He's no Neil Rackers.

He has a bad ankle. Lets see you try to run full sprint and tackle a guy with a bad ankle.

 

[BigRedRage]

Won't find anyone that will make a difference... TRADE FLOYD!

for a punter?

 

[BigRedRage]

I'm pretty sure Kevin spencer was the special teams coach under Wis. He was fired once BA arrived. Special teams has sucked since (and AP hasn't returned a TD since)... Kevin spencer and John Lott should have been retained.

this. the new ST guy is terrible.

 

[82CardsGrad]

for a punter?

No... I gotta believe there are better punters that are walking the streets. No need to trade for one.

 

[Dback Jon]

Amos Jones first started coaching with Arians 33 years ago at Temple. Blinded by Loyalty.

 

[BigRedRage]

No... I gotta believe there are better punters that are walking the streets. No need to trade for one.

the 9 players trying out are for punter, long snapper and etc. We arent looking for starting skill position players off the street. Who are you trading floyd for?

 

[82CardsGrad]

the 9 players trying out are for punter, long snapper and etc. We arent looking for starting skill position players off the street. Who are you trading floyd for?

A better ILB... A better Center...

 

[unseenaz]

a contender wouldn't trade a starter, and a non-contender wouldn't trade for a player on a contract season.

 

[BigRedRage]

A better ILB... A better Center...

We have a Center already, again i dont think this "bringing in 9 players" has anything to do with those positions.

 

[82CardsGrad]

a contender wouldn't trade a starter, and a non-contender wouldn't trade for a player on a contract season.

Do you believe Floyd will be back in AZ next season?

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Did you see Butler attempt to make a tackle? Pathetic. He's no Neil Rackers.

lol.

Thanks for the laugh, I forgot about Rackers tackles. LOL

 

[82CardsGrad]

We have a Center already, again i dont think this "bringing in 9 players" has anything to do with those positions.

No... we don't have a center already. Shipley is a weakness, not a strength.
And I never said the 9 players had anything to do with the center or ILB positions. I'm sure they don't.

 

[BigRedRage]

No... we don't have a center already. Shipley is a weakness, not a strength.
And I never said the 9 players had anything to do with the center or ILB positions. I'm sure they don't.

sure but you are in a thread about 9 tryout players begging to trade floyd?

Boehm is our Center, he will see the field before we trade Floyd for one.

 

[82CardsGrad]

sure but you are in a thread about 9 tryout players begging to trade floyd?

Boehm is our Center, he will see the field before we trade Floyd for one.

My initial post was that we won't find anything in the scap-heap of these 9 players and that trading Floyd would be a better option to find a player that could make a difference.

 

[Russ Smith]

Do you believe Floyd will be back in AZ next season?

Right that's my reasoning. If we won't keep him we should trade him unless keeping him this year only is impactful for the whole season. That is if we're in contention we will keep him, if we're not, should try and trade him.

not for a P though at this point will probably be a draft pick

 

[BigRedRage]

My initial post was that we won't find anything in the scap-heap of these 9 players and that trading Floyd would be a better option to find a player that could make a difference.

but we are bringing in players to find a punter and a long snapper, not to find a difference maker at other positions. I do feel we can absolutely find better punters and long snappers in the tryouts.

 

[82CardsGrad]

but we are bringing in players to find a punter and a long snapper, not to find a difference maker at other positions. I do feel we can absolutely find better punters and long snappers in the tryouts.

Yes. I agree... BUT, I don't believe we are playing this poorly and losing simply because of our Punter and Long Snapper. I don't believe we would've won yesterday with a better Punter or Long Snapper.
My point is that Floyd could/maybe/perhaps, bring meaningful/helpful value in a trade... and if the odds are he won't be a Cardinal next season, why not get something for him now rather than just let him walk away...

 

[b8rtm8nn]

Do we really know how ST's are coached in AZ?

Here you go @JeffGollin - draw your conclusions...

http://www.azcardinals.com/videos/v...s-Jones-/0986ea65-703b-4548-8041-fbe64bab469d

 

[BigRedRage]

Yes. I agree... BUT, I don't believe we are playing this poorly and losing simply because of our Punter and Long Snapper. I don't believe we would've won yesterday with a better Punter or Long Snapper.
My point is that Floyd could/maybe/perhaps, bring meaningful/helpful value in a trade... and if the odds are he won't be a Cardinal next season, why not get something for him now rather than just let him walk away...

I can see it, just didnt make sense in the context.

And with a better snapper we could be easily 3-0. The pats game was simple to win at the end and the overhead snap took us from a 1 possession game to over two just like that. Those 2 plays are a big reason why were are 1-2.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I can see it, just didnt make sense in the context.

And with a better snapper we could be easily 3-0. The pats game was simple to win at the end and the overhead snap took us from a 1 possession game to over two just like that. Those 2 plays are a big reason why were are 1-2.

The snap in the Pats game wasn't perfect, but it was not horrible either... Catman should've made the FG. As for yesterday, our Punting and the bad snap were definitely contributing factors. But focusing there only takes the focus away from the rest of the bigger reasons as to why we lost.

 

[BigRedRage]

The snap in the Pats game wasn't perfect, but it was not horrible either... Catman should've made the FG. As for yesterday, our Punting and the bad snap were definitely contributing factors. But focusing there only takes the focus away from the rest of the bigger reasons as to why we lost.

which is true but if we didnt mess that up and give them seven points, we could have won and if we won, no one would be worried about things today.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

The snap in the Pats game wasn't perfect, but it was not horrible either... Catman should've made the FG.

That's just crazy talk

 

[82CardsGrad]

That's just crazy talk

Here ya go:

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[b8rtm8nn]

Here ya go:

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You keep posting that and it keeps making the point that you are wrong. Catman clearly adjusts his stride because of the bad snap.

COULD he have made it? Sure.
SHOULD he have made it? Of course not. Like a golfer having to adjust mid-swing, not gonna work as intended.

 

[BigRedRage]

The snap in the Pats game wasn't perfect, but it was not horrible either... Catman should've made the FG. As for yesterday, our Punting and the bad snap were definitely contributing factors. But focusing there only takes the focus away from the rest of the bigger reasons as to why we lost.

It was bad enough to throw the kickers motion off and make the field goal miss. Thats not on catman.