Cards Clinch Division with win tonight?

[HoodieBets]

I just did the playoff machine with the cards winning tonight then losing out and Seattle winning every game left and it still has us as the division leader. Is this true or am I missing some other weird tiebreaker?


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[BigRedRage]

seattle has to lose for us to clinch

 

[HoodieBets]

seattle has to lose for us to clinch

Why the best they can do is tie us if we win tonight? What tiebreaker do we lose on?


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[RON_IN_OC]

That's for division. For playoffs just Cards wining tonight clinches that, I think.


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[HoodieBets]

That's for division. For playoffs just Cards wining tonight clinches that, I think.


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Well if we win division same thing as clinching playoff spot


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[babedimancheff]

it wont be decided till last game of season.

 

[D-Dogg]

I just did the playoff machine with the cards winning tonight then losing out and Seattle winning every game left and it still has us as the division leader. Is this true or am I missing some other weird tiebreaker?


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There are tiebreakers of strength of schedule. If we win tonight and lose out, and they win out, we could still own the division based on our ending SOS. So go Steelers and such in that case.

 

[D-Dogg]

it wont be decided till last game of season.

If Seattle loses ANY game from here on out, and we win tonight we clinch division before playing them.

 

[Dback Jon]

There are tiebreakers of strength of schedule. If we win tonight and lose out, and they win out, we could still own the division based on our ending SOS. So go Steelers and such in that case.

Correct - it is possible, based on what criteria was put in for the non-common opponents of the Cards and Seahawks that the scenario shows the Cards clinching the division tonight - but until those games are played, we are not clinching with just a win tonight.

 

[PDXChris]

If Seattle loses ANY game from here on out, and we win tonight we clinch division before playing them.

I think he realizes that.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Well if we win division same thing as clinching playoff spot


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If Cards win tonight, but lose last 3 and Seattle wins out, then Seattle would win division and Cards would be wild card. Seattle would win tie break of division record, I think.


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[HoodieBets]

If Cards win tonight, but lose last 3 and Seattle wins out, then Seattle would win division and Cards would be wild card. Seattle would win tie break of division record, I think.


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Not true I think Jon is right it's only based on SOS


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[Dback Jon]

Not true I think Jon is right it's only based on SOS


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I'll treasure this post forever

 

[HoodieBets]

I'll treasure this post forever

Haha put it in your favorites...as much as we disagree politically when it comes to the cards it's all love


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[crisper57]

Tie Breakers in a Division

Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in common games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss

I think that is where we will have to go with a common record with Seattle.

 

[Dback Jon]

Haha put it in your favorites...as much as we disagree politically when it comes to the cards it's all love


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[BigRedRage]

Why the best they can do is tie us if we win tonight? What tiebreaker do we lose on?


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We still play them again so technically they could take our spot but with a head to head tie it would then go to division record and then SOS I thought.

Either way, we will win the division.

 

[babedimancheff]

If Seattle loses ANY game from here on out, and we win tonight we clinch division before playing them.

and do you really think the nfl will let that happen before week 17?

 

[HoodieBets]

and do you really think the nfl will let that happen before week 17?

Yes I believe that is why the NFL flexed the Eagles game because it can clinch the division for the cards


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[Iceman]

Just win tonight and get in. Then we can do the next scenario after the game!

 

[crisper57]

Ran the playoff machine. If the Cards win tonight and lose the last 3 AND Seattle wins out, the tiebreaker will be based on strength of victory. Since we have so many common opponents, we only need to focus on a few teams.

SEA unique victories:
Pittsburgh, Dallas

AZ unique victories:
Bengals, Saints

It appears we would need some combination of six (6) CIN/NO wins and/or PIT/DAL losses over the last 4 weeks of the season to win that tiebreaker with Seattle under that scenario.

 

[HoodieBets]

Ran the playoff machine. If the Cards win tonight and lose the last 3 AND Seattle wins out, the tiebreaker will be based on strength of victory. Since we have so many common opponents, we only need to focus on a few teams.

SEA unique victories:
Pittsburgh, Dallas

AZ unique victories:
Bengals, Saints

It appears we would need some combination of six (6) CIN/NO wins and/or PIT/DAL losses over the last 4 weeks of the season to win that tiebreaker with Seattle under that scenario.

Actually 5 cuz Cincy still plays Pitt again so that's one automatically


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[crisper57]

Actually 5 cuz Cincy still plays Pitt again so that's one automatically


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Yeah. That one counts for 2 (out of 6).

Even if they lose that game:

Dallas still plays @ GB
Bengals play @ SF
Dallas plays @ the Bills
Jacksonville goes to New Orleans
Ravens go to Cincy
Saints go to ATL
WASH goes to Dallas

Lots of opportunities to those teams to take care of business. DAL/PITT would have to make up 4 games on CIN/NO to force the next level of tie-breakers.

So yes, the Cards could be clinching tonight. They may just not know it until Week 17 if they don't take care of any further business.

 

[Jim Otis]

How simple is this ???

Beat the Vikings tonight ---- Beat Philly ten days later ----- Clinches Division ' Clinches #2 Seed I LOVE IT WHEN A PLAN COMES TOGETHER !!!

 

[TheCardinal]

Ran the playoff machine. If the Cards win tonight and lose the last 3 AND Seattle wins out, the tiebreaker will be based on strength of victory. Since we have so many common opponents, we only need to focus on a few teams.

SEA unique victories:
Pittsburgh, Dallas

AZ unique victories:
Bengals, Saints

It appears we would need some combination of six (6) CIN/NO wins and/or PIT/DAL losses over the last 4 weeks of the season to win that tiebreaker with Seattle under that scenario.

Bingo! We need six of the remaining sixteen "points" (fifteen games, PIT/CIN game counts twice) to clinch the SOV tie-breaker over Seattle should we win tonight.