Cards looking for magic bullet in players-only meeting

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If there was any doubt the season was lost, the news of a players only meeting seals it. They never work and usually mean the coach is about to lose his job. If I recall, the Suns had two in Terry Porter's short tenure as head coach.
 

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Dont really agree about the dreaded fate of the coach. But I agree they rarely work.
 

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How about a GM only meeting, with just Graves and a mirror?

Just for giggles, he can bring his resume...look it over and wonder "How in the hell am I still employed with an NFL team?"
 

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They're actually not that uncommon these meetings I don't think anybody can say what will work and what won't.

As for the coaches they had an extra week to prepare for a team that both worked for as coaches for several years. If they can't come up with a gameplan that allows us to exploit some things Pittsburgh does on both sides of the ball, they probably deserve to be worried about their jobs.
 

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There was a players only meeting last week that Darnell Dockett described as one of the most emotional meetings he's every been in. He's confident they are going to "turn it around" and take things "10 times more serious".
hmmm...
 

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If the Cardinals do not have the answer on their roster for an offensive line fix, then all the player meetings in the world will not help.
 

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So Darnell admits they haven't been playing hard? Just collecting paychecks?

Of course that sort of statement is what you normally hear from players when the team is losing. Playerspeak. Because they can't just come out and say we simply aren't any good.
 

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I wonder if the "magic bullet" is that blender thing, and the Cards were making daiquiris,
 

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I also think there's a tendency for players to do stuff like this as an alibi.

When things aren't going well some guys play harder, and some guys slack off so they can use it as an excuse well nobody believes in the system etc. That way they don't have to admit they're just not as good as they think they are.

The Tyson biting incident was the classic, he didn't snap and bit Evander's ear off he realized he could not win that fight and didn't want to get his butt kicked, so he got himself DQ'ed.

In this case I hope the players who really need to take it more seriously get it but that is tough to do on a team that doesn't have established leaders, it has to come from above.
 

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Us cardinal fans should call a fan only meeting. It should not be hard to get all 200 or so of us together

This is a great idea and I bet it would garner some publicity. Also I think more than 200 fans would attend especially if it were like a tailgate event prior to the game. I'm not sure about available area.
 

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+1.

Who( which player(s) ) called the meeting? That would be interesting. I wonder if one of these was ever called and the players didn't show up?

The team did have a players-only meeting last week, and Dockett said there was another important meeting again Monday morning talking about communication and working together. In the end, wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald said, meetings mean little in comparison to playing on the field.
 
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I also think there's a tendency for players to do stuff like this as an alibi.

When things aren't going well some guys play harder, and some guys slack off so they can use it as an excuse well nobody believes in the system etc. That way they don't have to admit they're just not as good as they think they are.

The Tyson biting incident was the classic, he didn't snap and bit Evander's ear off he realized he could not win that fight and didn't want to get his butt kicked, so he got himself DQ'ed.

In this case I hope the players who really need to take it more seriously get it but that is tough to do on a team that doesn't have established leaders, it has to come from above.

I actually think some of those players are embarrassed. Good thing we signed Fitz and Dockett when we did as they would surely be out of here at the end of the year. I am sorry to say that Fitz seemed to support the signing of Kolb but he sure did not set up that trade and Kolb's salary and contract. This could go down as the worst trade in Cardinal history or at least one of them. Getting rid of Bobby Moore has to be one of our bad deals. Maybe the hiring of Graves is worse than any player deal every made.
 

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Who cares, meet on the field and quit embarrassing yourselves
 

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The only bullet that needs to be found, is the one that gets shot into the head of this team, to put it out of it's misery.
 

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other teams have had them and made them work.
What it really boils down to is the attitudes involved...those meetings can get brutal as they call each other out on their weaknesses.......the best we can hope for is an honest commitment from the players to put in more work learning their responsibilities in their respective schemes.
a guy that runs a 4.5 cannot commit to running a 4.38....but a guy that does not know his assignments inside out can commit to spending a few extra hours each week studying his role on the team and studying film of opponents.

It has to start with accountability, they have to put aside the ego and be honest with their teammates.
'Hi, my name is Kevin Kolb, and I have been making bad decisions that have cost us as a team"
"Hi, my name is Adrian Wilson, and I have been a liability to our pass defense all season long"
"Hi, my name is Patrick Peterson, and right now I am just ****ing lost out on that field"


they cannot expect their teammates to respond well to their feedback unless they are honest about their own shortcomings.

Guess we wait and see what happens.
 

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