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Wow two losses in a row really brings the crazy out of people.

Can I nominate this for worst thread of December?
 

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no thanks lol with all injured mcnabb is he wouldn't last more then two games behind our oline.
 

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Young QB waiting in the wings??? Matty is not panning out to be a winner...
Mcnabb? Quin? DEREK ANDERSON

HE PLAYED FOUR GAMES THIS SEASON !!!!!!!!

And went 2-2. AND beat the Seahawks and Steelers.

This is ludicris.

I have no problem with the mentioning of McNabb, I can see where someone would be going with that. He is a solid QB, but I personally would not want him here.

But this labeling of Leinart is getting out of hand. Matt Leinart has not been given a full season to prove himself. He has been given less time then Manning, Palmer, and just about any other QB that came into the league.

I cannot believe there are some ready to write this kid off already. It seems crazy.

I am not saying the guy is the next QB of the decade, all I am saying is at least give the guy a chance to prove himself. At least 1/2 of the amount of time we gave Jake Plummer.

JMHO.
 

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Matt Leinart has not been given a full season to prove himself.
Actually, he was "given" a big chunk of last season and handed the starting job this season. The fact that he can't seem to stay healthy to take advantage of those opportunities is part of why many are concerned. Add to that the struggles that inspired the 2-headed monster this year and there's just as much negative as positive in regards to Leinart's potential/future.
 

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I think the Card's will be fine with Warner and Leinart and should in no way go after McNabb or Pennington or anyone else. I don't think much of McNabb's accuracy but he might actually benefit from moving to a non-West Coast style of offense.
 

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McNabb has major shortcomings. The crew broadcasting the game pointed out that McNabb no longer can run out of trouble or be the double threat that he once was. Because of this, he needs to become a much better pocket passer and he is not doing that very well.
 

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Actually, he was "given" a big chunk of last season and handed the starting job this season. The fact that he can't seem to stay healthy to take advantage of those opportunities is part of why many are concerned. Add to that the struggles that inspired the 2-headed monster this year and there's just as much negative as positive in regards to Leinart's potential/future.

Are we talking about Matt or McNabb here?
 

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Actually, he was "given" a big chunk of last season and handed the starting job this season. The fact that he can't seem to stay healthy to take advantage of those opportunities is part of why many are concerned. Add to that the struggles that inspired the 2-headed monster this year and there's just as much negative as positive in regards to Leinart's potential/future.

Agreed.

I am not 100% sold on Leinart. In my opinion you give the kid at least one more full year and see what happens.

In reference to this thread, I think it would be a mistake to make a judgement on Matt's play at this point and time.

One last thing I want to point out is that Warner didn't do much better when he came in to run the "regular offense". We all know Warner was lights out when it came to the two minute drill, but we have seen what happens during regular time.

Sorry, I am just going around and around. Point is give it some time.
 

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Chicago's in a tough boat and I actually feel kinda bad for Grossman. They've done everything possible to undermine that offense's potential and then laid it all on him when it didn't click. I was screaming for his replacement in the Super Bowl but if you think about, he was about the same as Leinart in terms of playing time at that point. He'd played only about a season and they didn't/don't have crapola on offense. Muhammad? Berrian? Olson looks pretty good but overall, they are built for low scores. Bringing McNabb in there is only going to make things worse. He's lucky to be in a spot now where he's got Westbrook to bail him out. Plug him into Chicago's offense and it's going to get ugly if they don't get him some more help than Benson and Muhshin.
 

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Chicago's in a tough boat and I actually feel kinda bad for Grossman. They've done everything possible to undermine that offense's potential and then laid it all on him when it didn't click. I was screaming for his replacement in the Super Bowl but if you think about, he was about the same as Leinart in terms of playing time at that point. He'd played only about a season and they didn't/don't have crapola on offense. Muhammad? Berrian? Olson looks pretty good but overall, they are built for low scores. Bringing McNabb in there is only going to make things worse. He's lucky to be in a spot now where he's got Westbrook to bail him out. Plug him into Chicago's offense and it's going to get ugly if they don't get him some more help than Benson and Muhshin.

I think that Cedric Benson is more to blame for the offense's collapse in Chicago. He's terrible.
 

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I think that Cedric Benson is more to blame for the offense's collapse in Chicago. He's terrible.
I don't know if I'd say he was terrible but he hadn't played to a level in 2006 to warrant getting rid of Thomas Jones. He certainly hasn't displayed the ability to be an every down back. Just when he started to look decent this year he got hurt so I'm sure that will keep his stock just viable enough to be given another chance next year. Overall, I just don't know what Lovie's trying to do with the offense. It's not like you can just go out and replicate another offense but it surprises me that he isn't trying to do more of what he saw in St. Louis. I'll never understand why these teams with great defenses play down to the competition. If I had Chicago or Baltimore or whoever, I would be trying to score a lot and taking chances rather than playing scared and conservative. If you've got the great defense, why the hell wouldn't you take some shots and let the D bail you out if it doesn't work?
 

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If you've got the great defense, why the hell wouldn't you take some shots and let the D bail you out if it doesn't work?
Because Chicago doesn't have the great D this year. They're terrible against the run.
 

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Not just this year, in general. Baltimore's had a great D for many years and played uber-conservative. The Bears are similar in that regard. They haven't been as consistantly good but the point remains.
 

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