Cards notebook: No. 3 QB helping Leinart, Warner

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April 16, 2007

Cards notebook: No. 3 QB helping Leinart, Warner

Darren Urban, Tribune

Matt Leinart is the Cardinals’ starter. Kurt Warner is the quality backup. But the key quarterback on Arizona’s roster right now is … Shane Boyd?

That’s what happens when your third-stringer played for coach Ken Whisenhunt in training camp and preseason in 2006 for the Steelers. Boyd’s knowledge of the offense is valuable as the team completed its first minicamp Sunday.

“Both of us have leaned on Shane a little bit,” Warner said. “We don’t have any pride. We just want to perform well when we get out there.”

Boyd, who came to the Cardinals’ practice squad after Pittsburgh cut him last year, said Whisenhunt’s offense “came back to me quick.”

“I was in it last year, I performed in it, and I know the ins and outs of it, so they ask me a lot of questions,” Boyd said.

Leinart believes he will grasp the offense much quicker this season than last, when he transitioned to the NFL as a rookie, although he acknowledged “it is a completely different terminology, a completely different playbook, so it will take time.”

Leinart can also turn to Warner, who played in a similar offense when he was with the New York Giants. Warner said his basic experience will be another reason he can help Leinart.

“I am one of those guys, too. I will ask a million questions,” Warner said.

In this offense, Boyd said, the key for a quarterback is nothing surprising: Whisenhunt harps on avoiding turnovers.

“When (the Steelers) won the Super Bowl with Ben (Roethlisberger), Ben didn’t do things to hurt the team,” Boyd said. “At the same time, all the pressure wasn’t on Ben. We don’t need the quarterback making every play.”

ONE DOWN

After a successful first minicamp, Whisenhunt said the message to players was to continue to study the notes on formations, techniques and defensive alignments before the team gets back together on the practice field May 12-14 for the lone mandatory minicamp of the offseason.

“So when we come back, it won’t be like we are starting over,” Whisenhunt said. “This is just the tip of the iceberg.”

Whisenhunt was impressed with the enthusiasm and the chemistry, noting the practices “flew by.” He also was happy at the attendance — only linemen Milford Brown, who was getting married, and Mike Gandy, attending a wedding, were absent.

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/87910
 

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Well, I can pretty much say that we won't be drafting a #3 QB this year. Good for Shane.
 

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Well, I can pretty much say that we won't be drafting a #3 QB this year. Good for Shane.

I guarantee we will sign a UDFA free agent if we don't spend a late round pick on a QB. Boyd's history as a QB is less than stellar.
 

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I guarantee we will sign a UDFA free agent if we don't spend a late round pick on a QB. Boyd's history as a QB is less than stellar.

Sounds good. I'll bet you a shiny buffalo nickel.

If we draft/sign a UDFA, he will not get the 3rd QB spot over Boyd.
 

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Sounds good. I'll bet you a shiny buffalo nickel.

If we draft/sign a UDFA, he will not get the 3rd QB spot over Boyd.

All that means is that we signed or drafted a terrible QB who can't beat out a QB who never has passed for more TDs than Ints or completed over 54% of his passes (College & NFL Europe). That would be more of a indictment on the scouting department than anything else, nothing to hang our hats on.
 

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All that means is that we signed or drafted a terrible QB who can't beat out a QB who never has passed for more TDs than Ints or completed over 54% of his passes (College & NFL Europe). That would be more of a indictment on the scouting department than anything else, nothing to hang our hats on.

Boyd will be the 3rd QB this year, just like Navarro was last year. He is a QB that is already familiar with the playbook. If there is any pick at all that I would not want to see this draft, it would be for a 3rd QB. Next year, I could understand drafting a replacement for Warner. Not this year.
 

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Yeah, I think Boyd sticks...and, maybe even moves up to #2 next year. :eek:
 

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What makes you think Whiz likes Boyd? He was already cut once by Whiz, why wouldn't he cut him again?

What makes you think that he would cut Boyd, when there is an article stating that he is actually helping our #1 and #2 QB's? 3rd QB is a position that we shouldn't worry too much about. If somehow Leinart and Warner can't perform. We will probably sign or trade for a veteran anyway.
 

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What makes you think Whiz likes Boyd? He was already cut once by Whiz, why wouldn't he cut him again?
I don't know what Whiz thinks about him, but I liked what I saw of him in college enough to think he'd at worst be a decent #3.

Why did he get cut last year? Because you had a question mark at the #1 QB position (because of Big Ben's wacky offseason), a good backup in Batch and a guy he liked better than Boyd at #3 in St. Pierre (who, if I remember correctly has a similar style of play to Roethlisberger--a big guy who has enough mobility to move pretty well in the pocket and get a couple yards now and again on a scramble--personally, I think it's important to have backups that have some of the same qualities as your starter).

So, I don't know that Whiz DOESN'T like Boyd, just that he had a couple other guys he liked better. When you're looking at a guy as a #3 QB, I don't think that's a huge knock.
 

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I don't know what Whiz thinks about him, but I liked what I saw of him in college enough to think he'd at worst be a decent #3.

Do you actually watch Kentucky Football? UK fans couldn't stand him. His numbers from college were terrible. His numbers in NFL Europe were even worse.

His scouting report coming out of college had him pegged as a developmental RB or WR, nobody considered him a good enough QB.

John Navarre is a better QB and will have a longer career as an NFL back-up than Shane Boyd.
 

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Do you actually watch Kentucky Football? UK fans couldn't stand him. His numbers from college were terrible. His numbers in NFL Europe were even worse.
No, I don't watch Kentucky football. I remember watching film packages on him, though. For me, he passes the eyeball test. As we know, stats don't tell the whole story.

Look, I'm not pimping for the guy. I don't really care one way or another. I just have a feeling he's going to stick.

If Whiz really didn't like him, why would he bring him in?
 

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I guarantee we will sign a UDFA free agent if we don't spend a late round pick on a QB. Boyd's history as a QB is less than stellar.
I agreee. If Whiz thought he was a capable #3 then I doubt he would've been cut last year in Pitt.
 

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Maye I'm confused. Was Boyd signed and cut by the Cards last season only to be re-signed by whiz again this off-season? (I'm not being a smart ass, is this what happened, or has he been on the roster since he was signed in 06?)

If this is the case, if Whiz didn't like him why would he bring him sign him again?
 

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Maye I'm confused. Was Boyd signed and cut by the Cards last season only to be re-signed by whiz again this off-season? (I'm not being a smart ass, is this what happened, or has he been on the roster since he was signed in 06?)

If this is the case, if Whiz didn't like him why would he bring him sign him again?

I don't think the Cards ever cut him, he was on the roster for the last game of the season because they put Leinart on the IR for that game. I'm not sure if his contract expired in the offseason or if they had signed him through this season though.
 
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I thought they had 3: Roethlisberger, Batch and St. Pierre
And they drafted Omar Jacobs and let him go also .. I was one of the guys that wanted us to draft OJ in the late rounds and then we got Leinart .. OJ had an unorthodox delivery which may have hurt his chances in Pittsburgh ...
 
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