Cards offer to Smith - 2 mil a year

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I don't think that $2 mil is too much to pay for Emmitt Smith. I think that, as long as you're not promising more than, say, 20 "touches" a game (which is what the Falcons promised Warrick Dunn when he signed with them last year), I'm fine with it. The Vet minimum for someone with Emmitt's experience is somewhere in the ballpark of $800,000.00, right? I'll overpay $1.2 mil to get a quality starter in place, who may not gain 1000 yards, but I think we could work something like the Hearst/Barlow thing that they run in San Fran. Barlow is older than Marcel, so I think that they might (and this is a really big "might") be able to split time and still each gain 1000 yards this season. That depends on the offense doing one simple thing: sticking with the game plan.

Let's let facts be facts here, in respect to free agency: No starters, wideouts or linemen, want to come here. We can get plenty of "depth" out here with our wallets, but we're not getting Holliday, Okeafor seems to have been overvalued by most of the people on this board, and the best WR left on the market (as evidenced by the Jets' search for a new starter) is Curtis-Freakin'-Conway. We're going to have to finish building through this years draft and maybe patch a couple holes with June 1 cuts, but this team seems to be mostly done for now.

One more thing, to be clear: Even with the depth chart looking like "1) E. Smith, 2) M. Shipp, 3) T. Jones," the Cards will not have one of the best running games in the NFL (per 40yearfan). They'll be an all right running team, with good depth, and not much dropoff between spots 1, 2, 3, but our running attack will be in the middle third of the league.
 

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Emmitt DEMANDS to get the staring job and 20-30 carries a game
Would you please provide the source for that quote? I don't recall reading anywhere where he "demanded" anything.
 

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I know you're a big Jones guy, but do you honestly think he's even going to make this team? This line doesn't need another Lectric Leeland show. It needs 4-5 yards and a cloud of dust.

He's got June 1 written all over his cast.
 

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Originally posted by SECTION 11
I know you're a big Jones guy, but do you honestly think he's even going to make this team? This line doesn't need another Lectric Leeland show. It needs 4-5 yards and a cloud of dust.

He's got June 1 written all over his cast.

Why wait until June 1 if they're going to cut him? We all know he has no trade value.

I have this fantasy that TJ comes in to camp with a huge smile on his face, rushes his way back into coach Mac's good graces, having a DeShaun Foster-type preseason (without the disasterous knee injury), and then wins the starting job hands down by Week 6 with massive gains in spelling Smith and Shipp and in "junk time". Then he gains 1700 yards in the second half of the season, goes to the Pro Bowl, and promptly departs for St. Louis, where y'all have to see him play the Cards twice a year, and people proclaim him the Second Coming of Marshall.

That fantasy turned into a nightmare at the end. I hate when that happens.

What does "Lectric Leeland show" mean?
 

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lectric leeland mcelroy from Texas A&M. shifty guy with speed. couldn't deal with the arm tackles.


man, i hope you wake up before that dream ends. i know tj's gonna go somewhere with a big chip on his shoulder...
 

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Originally posted by kerouac9
Why wait until June 1 if they're going to cut him? We all know he has no trade value.

If they cut him after June 1st then they can spread his remaining signing bonus over 2 years instead of taking it all this year.
 

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Originally posted by MadCardDisease
If they cut him after June 1st then they can spread his remaining signing bonus over 2 years instead of taking it all this year.

The remaining money is negligible, since he's at the end of his contract, anyway. You don't save anything. This is the last year of his deal.
 
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Since it's the last year of his deal the cap hit can't be spread out. We'll clear 500K once he's cut, it does not matter what day it happens.
 

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Originally posted by azdeftone
Emmitt DEMANDS to get the staring job and 20-30 carries a game. Thats dumb on our part if we agree to that. Marcell proved he can be an effective back behind a mediocre line so we sign him long term. If we now give the starting job to an old man in front of him whats that say to Marcell you think he will still have a good attitude. You think Emmitt wont be a cancer like he was in Dallas the last couple of years when he did not get HIS CARRIES he cried and bitched and seperated the lockeroom. Yeah lets bring that kind of leadership into the lockeroom. F*** emitt he is not one of the greatest backs ever he has just played to long not to mention the bulk of his all-time yards came behind the one of the biggest and best O-lines ever. Wonder what barry or jim brown would have after all those years behind that line. We have plenty of depth at RB and that 2 mill could go towards an area of NEED like f**king DEFENSE or maybe a WR or TWO. I dont think the strong part of Blakes game is handing off dammit!

There are a couple of constants in the universe and deftone you are one of them. I just know I'm going to disagree with your opinion and usually very strongly.

Let's see if I get this right. Plummer is an outstanding QB who never got a fair shot with the Cards.

Emmitt is overrated and owes all of his success to the O-line etc. at Dallas.

Is this a fair summation of your points of view on these two players?

One other note, Emmitt wrote a letter to his teammates after the 01 season encouraging everyone to take their offseason workouts seriously. He talked about dedication and hard work. The team had their best turn out for conditioning etc ever that summer. This would be an example of strong positive leadership.

Also take note that I can get my point across with out all of the ************'s in my post.
 
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