Cards still trying to trade Shelton

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From Tuesday morning Cardinal article in Arizona Republic

"Offensive tackle L.J. Shelton was excused from the workouts. The team is trying to trade him. Wide receiver Bryant Johnson missed practice because he is attending classes at Penn State."


I just don't think he will be back with the Cardinals. I hope they just don't drop him but his market value appears to be very low.

 

[Jersey Girl]

His market value is low because everyone knows the Cards don't want him anymore.

 

[vinnymac]

his market value is low because the league knows he doesn't keep in shape. that is probally why he injuied all the time.

 

[joko4]

His value? Zero means you have no value. It's time to say goodbye to this freeloader. A pain in the ass from day 1.

 

[Shane]

his market value is low because the league knows he doesn't keep in shape. that is probally why he injuied all the time.

Thats just plain not true. He has always kept in shape. He has rarely been injured since here. Last year was the first time he was ever out of shape and that was due to having OFF SEASON SURGERY. Fully acceptable IMO!

 

[Shane]

His value? Zero means you have no value. It's time to say goodbye to this freeloader. A pain in the ass from day 1.

How so exactly. Can you show a list of things in his past herethat back those up?

 

[NMCard]

His value? Zero means you have no value. It's time to say goodbye to this freeloader. A pain in the ass from day 1.

He has played in way to many games to be called a freeloader. Maybe he does not fit into Greens system which is fine. But you cannot call him a freeloader.

 

[Russ Smith]

his market value is low because the league knows he doesn't keep in shape. that is probally why he injuied all the time.

He's 1 pound over his playing weight right now. He was out of shape last year because he was coming off 2 offseason surgeries. Shelton is a big guy and he's never been svelte here but he's never been grossly overweight either until last year. he's injured all the time because offensive linemen take a beating.

I think there are 2 reasons he has no interest, first everyone knows Green dislikes him and they assume he'll ultimately cut him since the rumor is he tried to do so last year. Everyone sees that Shelton has been playing hurt for years and they're worried that he is on his last legs. Shelton is not one of those guys that gets by on strength or grit or technique, he's always been a guy who relied on finesse and if he can't move, he can't play.

 

[BigRedArk]

Yeah i disagree about the freeloader stuff too. I think he played like a half of a season one year with an ankle injury or something that needed surgery but wasn't actually caught until after the season was over maybe? Somebody help me here.

 

[thirty-two]

I was on the fence before, but after getting JJ and everyone else in the draft, I'd much rather keep Shelton...

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Real NFL teams don't pay backups $3 million a year. It's why we traded Duane Starks and cut Clement and Small Play Ray. The reality of the situation is LJ's going to get cut, traded, or start somewhere on the line. And I don't see the last one happening with the recent personnel moves.

 

[AntSports Steve]

Right now, everyone else in the league things the Cards are going to CUT Shelton , so why should they give up a draft choice. If you want to create a market for Shelton , the Cards should announce that they now plan on keeping Shelton and plan to allow him to compete for a starting position.

Then you either have more competation at OL and improvement, or somebody shows up and finally gives reasonable value for a trade. If he gets injured during camp... so be it. Right now, depending on how much Clement saved (note, they cut him before June 1st ... ), they have over $7M in cap space. They can afford to keep/risk Shelton.

 

[TheCardFan]

Then you either have more competation at OL and improvement, or somebody shows up and finally gives reasonable value for a trade. If he gets injured during camp... so be it. Right now, depending on how much Clement saved (note, they cut him before June 1st ... ), they have over $7M in cap space. They can afford to keep/risk Shelton.

I agree. There is no point in cutting a proven NFL LT at only 3m/yr. I would keep him this year and wait for another teams LT to go down and get desperate for LJ. It seems to happen every year.

However, IMO, the Cards will let him go after June 1st.

 

[ajcardfan]

Right now, everyone else in the league things the Cards are going to CUT Shelton , so why should they give up a draft choice. If you want to create a market for Shelton , the Cards should announce that they now plan on keeping Shelton and plan to allow him to compete for a starting position.

Then you either have more competation at OL and improvement, or somebody shows up and finally gives reasonable value for a trade. If he gets injured during camp... so be it. Right now, depending on how much Clement saved (note, they cut him before June 1st ... ), they have over $7M in cap space. They can afford to keep/risk Shelton.

According to reports this morning, cutting Clement cleared 1.2 mil. He had a 2.4mil salary this year and 1.2mil bonus remaining. By waiting until June 1, they could've pushed half that onto next year's cap. But, I think the move was done now to try and create a market for Shelton. At least it's quasi-plausible they might keep him with Clement gone.

 

[clif]

I dont get why everyone is so worried about the Oline depth. As we have seen time and time again. It will be taken care of one way or the other. 2 weeks ago alot of people were up in arms over our LB and CB depth and presto it looks pretty good.

give the team time to make the right decision.

 

[seesred]

Color Shelton gone. The O-line was horrid in the Kendale, clemente, Shelton , Davis years and Green has a plan to make it work. Shelton should not be called out on injuries or anything else. He played hurt, he always spoke well of the team and the city. He just doesn't fit anymore. Simple. If not traded he will be cut on June 1st to save as much cap as possable. When that happens you will hear some say ' again they lost a guy and got nothing. Well folks there is nobody out there who will give a pick right now till after June 1st and then it will be to late.

GBR
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In Green we trust

 

[MadCardDisease]

2 weeks ago alot of people were up in arms over our LB and CB depth and presto it looks pretty good.

Sometimes looks can be deceiving.

 

[Pariah]

I dont get why everyone is so worried about the Oline depth. As we have seen time and time again.

Right, like the depth we had last year?

I reserve the right to bitch about depth until it's taken care of, thank you. If Shelton goes and nobody comes in to replace him depth-wise, we DON'T have depth. And, since right now people are talking abour Shelton being as good as gone, but not talking about who might replace him as quality depth, I see that as a problem.

 

[seesred]

I believe we have signed at least 2 UDFA and drafted 1 big guy in round 4? also aquired Ross in FA. Color Shelton gone there is plenty of depth.

GBR
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In Green we trust

 

[MadCardDisease]

I believe we have signed at least 2 UDFA and drafted 1 big guy in round 4? also aquired Ross in FA. Color Shelton gone there is plenty of depth.

GBR
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In Green we trust

That depth is completely unproven!

 

[clif]

I reserve the right to bitch about depth until it's taken care of, thank you. .

bitch until your hearts content. The fact of the matter is I have complete confidence that before the season starts the depth issue will be resolved. Whether that includes Mr Shelton remains to be seen. I really wouldn't mind either way

 

[seesred]

Here is how it looks today. I believe we can go to football war with most of these big guys.

60 Nick Leckey C 6-3 286 2
61 Elton Brown G 6-5 329 R
62 Jim Newton T 6-9 297 1
64 Adam Haayer T 6-6 308 5
66 Alan Reuber T 6-6 323 2
69 Rolando Cantu G 6-5 337 1
70 L.J. Shelton T 6-6 335 7
71 Alex Stepanovich C 6-4 301 2
72 Ross Kolodziej DT 6-3 291 4
73 Jeremy Bridges RG 6-4 301 2
74 Reggie Wells G 6-4 323 3
75 Leonard Davis T 6-6 381 5
76 Ian Allen T 6-4 310 5
78 Oliver Ross RT 6-5 322 7
79 Fred Wakefield

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[azsouthendzone]

Shelton makes $3 million a year
Boldin makes $300,000 a year.

Bye Shelton.

 

[TheCardFan]

Here is how it looks today. I believe we can go to football war with most of these big guys. GBR
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IMO, the starting line is solid.

75 Leonard Davis T 6-6 381 5
74 Reggie Wells G 6-4 323 3
71 Alex Stepanovich C 6-4 301 2
61 Elton Brown G 6-5 329 R
78 Oliver Ross RT 6-5 322 7

The issue IS the depth...

Shelton is the only proven NFL experience. I am not a big LJ fan...LJ, Big, Kendall, and Clement were highly paid underachievers. It seems like only Big has stepped up to Green's challenge. I have full confidence in Green to upgrade the line...I am sure he wants a young hungry guy that is willing to eat nails if he asks him to vs a millionaire guy that is thinking about stocks and bling.

 

[Pariah]

...I am sure he wants a young hungry guy that is willing to eat nails if he asks him to vs a millionaire guy that is thinking about stocks and bling.

Yeah, but by all accounts, that guy isn't LJ Shelton. I don't know why everyone is down on his attitude and work ethic; IMO it's been nothing short of heroic in the face of being benched, trade attempts and the ever-present threat of being cut. Lot's of guys would throw up their hands and quit working, Shelton hasn't. In fact, there have been reports that last year he re-doubled his efforts.

Just because a guy appears to be on his way out doesn't mean we fans should turn on them. Seems we do it all the time, though--and not only with guys on the way out, but guys we think might be coming in. For example, Travis Henry and Carlos Rogers both experienced a spike in popularity a couple of weeks ago, while Rolle's value was on the decline.