Carolina can lose next week and can back door in

[BillsCarnage]

That doesn't make any sense at all. If you beat a team, you can't lose a tie-breaker with them. You can't, that's just plain garbage! First tiebreaker should always, ALWAYS be head-to-head games. So we would, in this scenario, tie head-to-head with San Fran. We beat Carolina. Carolina beat San Fran. We go in as the five-seed and Carolina as the six-seed. Very, very simple.

What's this crap about we have to break a tie with San Fran and not Carolina? I'm not saying it isn't true, but logically speaking it makes zero sense. Why would the NFL make a boneheaded, nonsensical rule like this?

Ok everyone, this is how it works with a 3-way tie in this instance.

5th seed is up for grabs first.
- Cards are eliminated because SF has a better divisional record. Divisional foes need to be eliminated first; this is where the Cards are out of luck.
- SF is eliminated due to head-to-head with CAR
- CAR gets 5th seed

6th seed is up now.
- Cards are eliminated due to divisional record.
- SF gets 6th seed.

Swap out the Saints if you want it works out exactly the same.

So, the only way for the Cards to make the POs at this point is to have a better record than two of those 3 teams.

 

[cardncubfan]

It's all just fan talk... especially with news of a Palmer high ankle sprain and Fitz concussion, I think everyone is still realistic about how unlikely our playoff odds are, but that doesn't mean it's still not interesting to think through the scenarios.

This.

What difference does it make, it's rigged!! RIGGED!!!!

& This

 

[Chaz]

So, the only way for the Cards to make the POs at this point is to have a better record than two of those 3 teams.

Or tie Carolina for the 6th seed at 10-6 while NO and SF go 11-5.

 

[Diggity]

Week 17 Carolina has the early game so if does come down to the last week, the Cardinals will know their fate going into their game with SF.

 

[Buckybird]

Or tie Carolina for the 6th seed at 10-6 while NO and SF go 11-5.

Which will still require the Panthers to lose the last 2 games, which ain't happening!!!
I promise you, come week 17 the Falcons won't give them any fight.

 

[Stout]

It just isn't right. It's why I hate the BCS system and am glad it's going away, because when arbitrary crap screws teams, it irks me to no end. In no universe should Carolina get into the playoffs above us if we have the same record. There is absolutely no justification for it. If we beat San Fran, they won't have the head-to-head win over us.

For those saying it's fair because they're better in our own division, well, sorry, but that's not normally the first tie breaker--so why should it suddenly become the first tie breaker.

Sure, there will be situations where head-to-head victories wouldn't work in three-way ties. Should it end up we all three had the same record, yet San Fran had beaten us twice, we had beaten Carolina, and Carolina had beaten San Fran, then sure, it would perforce come down to another tie breaker, because all three teams can't make it in.

When the first tie breaker can legitimately break the frickin' tie and get the necessary number of playoff teams, it makes ZERO sense not to use it. I'd feel the same way if the roles were reversed, too.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Been fudging with the yahoo generator and it appears Cards only have the following ways to make the playoffs:

Carolina loses two and Cards win at least one: Cards are in. (Unless SF also loses two and Cards lose to SEA)

-OR-

SF loses two and Cards win two: Cards are in.

-OR-

NO loses two and Cards win two: Cards are in.

That's it...

 

[daves]

There is absolutely no justification for it. If we beat San Fran, they won't have the head-to-head win over us.

For those saying it's fair because they're better in our own division, well, sorry, but that's not normally the first tie breaker--so why should it suddenly become the first tie breaker.

Breaking ties within the division first is NOT new. In fact it's been that way for as long as i can remember - at least since the 1970s.

There is every justification for it. How can the Cardinals get into the playoffs ahead of the 49ers, when they're not even ranked ahead of the 49ers in their own division?

Sucks for the Cardinals, but that's the way it is and has been, and if a team doesn't like it, they need to win more division games next time.

...dave

 

[MWOOD92]

Best case scenario is if Carolina loses out and we win at least one. Outside of that I don't see us in the playoffs.