Cash savings on draft day 10.6-13.6 million

[JCSunsfan]

Kerr earned his contract back with the owner tonight.

3 million cash from Portland for #24
3 million saved from Jr's salary
3 million saved off of the lux tax because of Jr's salary
.8 million of guaranteed salary from #24 saved
.8 off the lux tax for #24
3 million cash from Portland for Jr (I'm not sure if we are getting this, there seemed to be some indication that we were)

Total cash and salary savings on draft day $10.6-13.6 million for this year alone.

Winning is secondary for Sarver. He does know how to make money.

Now, will he use it for a FA, trade for KG or put it in his pocket?

 

[SunsTzu]

Wouldn't it have been cheaper to hire an accountant as GM?

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

If he knew how to make money why couldnt he find a way to move banks then? Too much on his plate as it is? Dont want him to work up a sweat...

 

[JCSunsfan]

If he knew how to make money why couldnt he find a way to move banks then? Too much on his plate as it is? Dont want him to work up a sweat...

Actually he did better than moving Banks. If he had moved the 24 with Banks, the savings would have been around 7.6 million plus the 1.8 from the pick. totalling 9.4. In the end the savings is a little more and its James Jones instead of Banks that got shipped out.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I was thinking this money might help in getting Garnett, but now, without the two picks and JJ, we really don't have the pieces to do a deal for Garnett. Neither does any other team really.

I guess KG stays in Minny until next summer.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

Actually he did better than moving Banks. If he had moved the 24 with Banks, the savings would have been around 7.6 million plus the 1.8 from the pick. totalling 9.4. In the end the savings is a little more and its James Jones instead of Banks that got shipped out.

No, he didn't. My point was moving banks and the other moves would be better than moving banks. Im saying not moving him is lazy or misguided. Your explanation doesnt prove that wrong.

No matter what moves you choose, none of them would have been better than moving a 3.5 million dollar benchwarmer. Jones had value to the team, because aside from his sucking, he got playtime and made baskets. Banks doesnt get playtime, how can moving jones and a draft pick be considered better than moving someone who doesnt play.

We profit from the jones move, but the banks move is pure profit.

Aside from that, all the moves we did today PLUS banks was my main point, but banks has yet to be touched and takes up prime real estate on our roster.

Not moving banks in efforts to cut cash is poor business management unless banks gets 15+ minutes per game next season.

 

[Rockstar]

Oh I get what's going on here. With the wire transfer of $65 million going through to Colangelo today Sarver needed some extra coin to complete the payment. It all makes sense now.

I just wish Sarver would have came out and said it. That way fans might have respected him a tiny bit. Oh well...

 

[SunsOneFan]

Sarver only wants the cash. He tried to sell Marion because he is the highest paid player on the team. He will keep Nash and STAT because they don't make the big bucks. If he wants to unload some salary, dump Diaw, the French Pastry.

 

[ArizonaSportsFan]

Oh I get what's going on here. With the wire transfer of $65 million going through to Colangelo today Sarver needed some extra coin to complete the payment. It all makes sense now.

I just wish Sarver would have came out and said it. That way fans might have respected him a tiny bit. Oh well...

There may indeed be truth to that...

 

[Treesquid PhD]

Sarver only wants the cash. He tried to sell Marion because he is the highest paid player on the team. He will keep Nash and STAT because they don't make the big bucks. If he wants to unload some salary, dump Diaw, the French Pastry.

Eh?

 

[AsUdUdE]

Wouldn't it have been cheaper to hire an accountant as GM?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Wouldn't it have been cheaper to hire an accountant as GM?

You'd think that he'd be able to find one, him being a banker et all.

 

[Joe Mama]

No, he didn't. My point was moving banks and the other moves would be better than moving banks. Im saying not moving him is lazy or misguided. Your explanation doesnt prove that wrong.

No matter what moves you choose, none of them would have been better than moving a 3.5 million dollar benchwarmer. Jones had value to the team, because aside from his sucking, he got playtime and made baskets. Banks doesnt get playtime, how can moving jones and a draft pick be considered better than moving someone who doesnt play.

We profit from the jones move, but the banks move is pure profit.

Aside from that, all the moves we did today PLUS banks was my main point, but banks has yet to be touched and takes up prime real estate on our roster.

Not moving banks in efforts to cut cash is poor business management unless banks gets 15+ minutes per game next season.

What in the world makes you think that anybody was willing to take Marcus Banks?

Joe

 

[dreamcastrocks]

What in the world makes you think that anybody was willing to take Marcus Banks?

Joe

I tried asking the same question in another thread.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I tried asking the same question in another thread.

Once the Italian kid was gone, they figure that the player they wanted wouldn't be available at 24. I think he was available.

There has been no explanation from mgmt that makes sense.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Once the Italian kid was gone, they figure that the player they wanted wouldn't be available at 24. I think he was available.

There has been no explanation from mgmt that makes sense.

Now you are truly speculating. How do you know what their draft board looked like?

It is ok to be angry with what they did, but don't pretend to know something that you don't.

 

[Chaplin]

Now you are truly speculating. How do you know what their draft board looked like?

It is ok to be angry with what they did, but don't pretend to know something that you don't.

Exactly. Nobody knows anything right now, but everyone thinks they are the expert.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Now you are truly speculating. How do you know what their draft board looked like?

It is ok to be angry with what they did, but don't pretend to know something that you don't.

That was from a quote from mgmt last night. I think it was Kerr. The part about their guy being there was speculation.

Oops, excuse me. I am not sure it was Belleneli. They said "the player we really wanted."

 

[Covert Rain]

Exactly. Nobody knows anything right now, but everyone thinks they are the expert.

Including people who think Sarver is going to put this "savings" to good use. I really really hope he does. I won't fully judge Sarver (despite his cheapo moves since he got here) until I see what he does with this "flexiblity" (and yes Kerr we heard you say it about 20 times in matter of 5 minutes on the radio this morning).

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Exactly. Nobody knows anything right now, but everyone thinks they are the expert.

Heres what I DO KNOW:

I am tired of getting hyped up for these draft that are supposedly going to make my favorite team yonger and better and getting shafted for the last four years in a row. I turned to a friend of mine last night and commented how this is actually comical now. Simmons said it best in his diary. The team is literally pissing on its fans.

So while everyone gets better around us (and just wait til GS, LA, or DAL adds KG) we are bringing back to the table a team where the chemistry has been stripped and we STILL have no answer for Tim Duncan and the Spurs.

Thanks Rob, Mike, and Steve. Keep the "flexible" and the "we like the team we have" rhetoric to yourself. What your really saying is even though we are a couple key moves from winning it all we would rather take steps backwards or stand pat while everyone else gets better. In no way are we any better equipped to beat SA next year and if anything we are worse. What a joke.

When does football training camp start? This last two weeks has been much ado about nothing and I have a headache and am pissed. Tell Boivin to stuff it too. I don't need the beat writers commending the Suns for being smart and not making any moves. The fact is we regressed last year and didnt even get out of the second round. In real terms the NJ Nets can tout thier mediocre season as just as satisfying as ours. The damn Hawks are making great moves and yet we sit on our hands.

The last thing this team needs is another guy who is going to be a "Yes" man to Sarver. Whether he is cheap or not is up for debate but one thing I do know is he should not have as heavy an influence with basketball decisions. Its for this reason i miss BC. He might not have always made the right move but you KNEW him and Jerry were going to do everything in their power to make the team better. They would never stand pat like this and dare I say if BC is in place - Kevin Garnett is a Sun right now...

 

[Chaplin]

I guess all I have to say is "Shame on you" for getting hyped up about the draft.

 

[F-Dog]

Wouldn't it have been cheaper to hire an accountant as GM?

You mean, David Griffin?

 

[Griffin]

That was from a quote from mgmt last night. I think it was Kerr. The part about their guy being there was speculation.

Oops, excuse me. I am not sure it was Belleneli. They said "the player we really wanted."

I got the same impression from what I heard last night. I'm not sure if it was D'Antoni or Kerr who mentioned they liked a number of players, but once Belinelli went #18, they were afraid that the other players they liked would be gone as well before #24, so they traded the pick right there and then, without waiting to see who's actually available.

Now you would think since all the Suns were asking for in return was cash, that they could tell Portland to wait until #24 comes up and then make the decision. This is not unlike 2004 when the Suns traded away #7 without waiting to see who's available. And this year we didn't even get a second round pick in return, even though the Blazers had three, and the Suns said they actually wanted to move up in the second round. What does that say about our ability to negotiate a good deal?

 

[F-Dog]

I got the same impression from what I heard last night. I'm not sure if it was D'Antoni or Kerr who mentioned they liked a number of players, but once Belinelli went #18, they were afraid that the other players they liked would be gone as well before #24, so they traded the pick right there and then, without waiting to see who's actually available.

Oh, boy, do I love to hear that.


What exactly is Kerr's job, if they get to the war room and it's the same idiots making the same mistakes? Do they see him as some kind of receptionist?

 

[Joe Mama]

I got the same impression from what I heard last night. I'm not sure if it was D'Antoni or Kerr who mentioned they liked a number of players, but once Belinelli went #18, they were afraid that the other players they liked would be gone as well before #24, so they traded the pick right there and then, without waiting to see who's actually available.

Now you would think since all the Suns were asking for in return was cash, that they could tell Portland to wait until #24 comes up and then make the decision. This is not unlike 2004 when the Suns traded away #7 without waiting to see who's available. And this year we didn't even get a second round pick in return, even though the Blazers had three, and the Suns said they actually wanted to move up in the second round. What does that say about our ability to negotiate a good deal?

This is getting too easy. This afternoon we know for sure that caching is not all the Phoenix Suns were asking for in return for that draft pick. They were asking somebody to take James Jones off their hands as well. They didn't wait to see if one of their guys would be available at #24 because at that point it's too late. I mean do you think Portland was encouraging them to take their time and see who was available?

Joe