Celebrity Apprentice / Joan Rivers

[Gee!]

Is anyone else disgusted by Joan Rivers? Just totally disgusted.. From the horrific plastic surgery to her self appreciation to her loud mouth to her daughter that seems to be following in her footsteps.. And why the hell do they have them as "tv stars"? What have they ever done besides report on what real stars are wearing? Its amazing cuz people were cheering for her to win tonite.. Or am I the only person repulsed by her and her daughter?

 

[Linderbee]

I hadn't seen her in awhile, but when I did I was shocked & saddened. She's really messed her face up good. Bleh. I don't watch Celebrity Apprentice, but I agree, she's on the border between totally nasty & grotesque.

 

[thirty-two]

I cannot believe there was a THREE HOUR finale and that people watch this show! My aunt was all over it.

Booooring

And yes, the woman is scary looking as hell.

 

[DiamondBacks5117]

what was kinda weird was Joan rivers won but Annie Duke was in yahoo s top searches. Dont know if anyone else realized that. The thing I like about that show is how much money they raise for charity.

 

[Russ Smith]

Yeah it seemed like the fans in attendance and most of the players wanted Joan to win. I was quite surprised and to be honest I was disappointed with Trump I think he picked a friend over a better player.

First off, anybody who watched the finale knows that Annie was telling the truth in the taped boardroom and Joan was not only lying through her teeth, she was acting disgusted and accusing Annie of lying when she herself was lying. Joan went over the designers head and asked him to work with one of her friends, he quit on the phone. The next day Annie's designer refused to take her phone calls so she went there in person and was informed they had quit the show(the 2 designers worked for the same company). joan's designer was the owner of the company. the discussion was off camera but it was very clearly true that Joan's behavior caused both teams not to have a designer.

Trump persisted in the boardroom criticizing Annie for saying that as if she was lying, when he KNEW she wasn't. I thought she should have figured out he didn't care and dropped it, but I thought he was clearly favoring Joan because they're friends, and probably because she's older, she seems to be able to get away with more because as her daughter kept saying "she's 75 I can't control her."

So Joan won 3 of the 5 events, but 2 of them were DIRECTLY impacted by them not having a designer, which was entirely Joan's fault. And in the key part IMHO, fundraising, Annie beat her 3 to 1, 468K to 150K. In fact even wtih the 250K grand prize added in for joan, Annie still raised more money for her charity.

I would have declared Annie the winner, although I guess it worked out fair in that both charities got close to a half million bucks.

What really got me was at the end Trump very clearly admitted that Annie was telling the truth and Joan was lying but then she continued to act like she didn't lie, and Trump actually said "but isn't that smart game playing?" Joan made such a big deal about integrity in the show but she lied the whole finale. I admit I had a bias against Joan from early on because it was unfair that she and her daughter were both there, they had a built in advantage because they were a team the whole show, even when they were on opposite sides.

I guess Kardashian and Natalie Gulbis couldn't make the final. I also wonder do you think NBC told Tom Green and Clint Black not to help out and to be difficult in the last part or is that really just their nature? It almost seemed staged wtih Green talking to the camera and then trying to piss off Annie over and over.

 

[sundevilscott]

Yeah it seemed like the fans in attendance and most of the players wanted Joan to win. I was quite surprised and to be honest I was disappointed with Trump I think he picked a friend over a better player.

First off, anybody who watched the finale knows that Annie was telling the truth in the taped boardroom and Joan was not only lying through her teeth, she was acting disgusted and accusing Annie of lying when she herself was lying. Joan went over the designers head and asked him to work with one of her friends, he quit on the phone. The next day Annie's designer refused to take her phone calls so she went there in person and was informed they had quit the show(the 2 designers worked for the same company). joan's designer was the owner of the company. the discussion was off camera but it was very clearly true that Joan's behavior caused both teams not to have a designer.

Trump persisted in the boardroom criticizing Annie for saying that as if she was lying, when he KNEW she wasn't. I thought she should have figured out he didn't care and dropped it, but I thought he was clearly favoring Joan because they're friends, and probably because she's older, she seems to be able to get away with more because as her daughter kept saying "she's 75 I can't control her."

So Joan won 3 of the 5 events, but 2 of them were DIRECTLY impacted by them not having a designer, which was entirely Joan's fault. And in the key part IMHO, fundraising, Annie beat her 3 to 1, 468K to 150K. In fact even wtih the 250K grand prize added in for joan, Annie still raised more money for her charity.

I would have declared Annie the winner, although I guess it worked out fair in that both charities got close to a half million bucks.

What really got me was at the end Trump very clearly admitted that Annie was telling the truth and Joan was lying but then she continued to act like she didn't lie, and Trump actually said "but isn't that smart game playing?" Joan made such a big deal about integrity in the show but she lied the whole finale. I admit I had a bias against Joan from early on because it was unfair that she and her daughter were both there, they had a built in advantage because they were a team the whole show, even when they were on opposite sides.

I guess Kardashian and Natalie Gulbis couldn't make the final. I also wonder do you think NBC told Tom Green and Clint Black not to help out and to be difficult in the last part or is that really just their nature? It almost seemed staged wtih Green talking to the camera and then trying to piss off Annie over and over.

Very well put Russ. I think you sumed it up perfectly. I was stunned and disgusted when he named Joan the winner. Both her and her daughter are sick. They are insane.

 

[Gaddabout]

Anyone remember when Joan was just a lousy loud-mouthed comedienne who showed up on The Carol Burnett Show and The Tonight Show for no known reason?

 

[Russ Smith]

Anyone remember when Joan was just a lousy loud-mouthed comedienne who showed up on The Carol Burnett Show and The Tonight Show for no known reason?

Yeah I'm old enough to remember that she was essentially Kathy Griffin in her time, basically known for making fun of other people, pushing the edge a bit but I never considered her a "great" comic by any stretch.

I think she's had a great career and more power to her but just because you're a 75 year old comic does not mean you can compare someone to Hitler because they are at odds with your daughter.

The more I think about it the more surprised I am she won, when Melissa was fired, she completely flipped out, screaming at the camera folks and saying you won't get an interview from me etc. Trump even called her on it and chastised Joan but he didn't really come out and say that Joan walked off the show too. They had no idea if she was coming back. In a true business you would never pick someone that was that emotional.

I really felt the last 2 was kind of a setup they knew Annie and joan would be arguing and make for great TV, I never considered Joan would actually win.

 

[O]

I remember her late night talk show in the eighties, jeez was that bad.

 

[82CardsGrad]

One of the oddest looking human beings walking around today... Can't believe people actually choose to look that way!

I also thought Annie Duke was hard to like as well... She was clearly better than Joan in all respects and should have won, but man is she a B.I.T.C.H. and she played the Playboy Bunnie like the fool she is...

I'm a big Natalie Gulbis fan and would have liked to see her last longer... T-Boz was also cool and again, would have enjoyed seeing her last longer...

Rodman is one messed up character! Jesse is also a very strange dude... Tom Green is a total dork... Clint Black has a crazy ego... Herschel Walker seems like a great guy...

Oh, and Ivanka Trump is simply stunning!

 

[jf-08]

The choice was the lesser of the two evils - Joan vs. Annie.

Annie was a snake throughout the whole game and then wanted to be kissie face in the board room. At least Joan said things directly to Annie's face rather than be a vile bitch behind her back, which what Annie was. IMO, Annie marginalized Melissa when they were on the same team. But Melissa is a spoiled brat.

I think Trump got it right. Joan will be a "better Apprentice ambassador" than Annie would ever be.

 

[nashman]

^ Wrong! Annie clearly should have won and played the game much better without all the personal public attacks. Trump is an idiot and how they kept saying Joan is a great role model was ridiculous...role model for who? Joan and Melissa are disgusting human beings and are role models for NO ONE! Trump picked his FRIEND period and it was such a wrong decision hi picked her and the show was over no follow up questions or anything because he didn't want to be questioned after clearly just picking his friend over the person who dominated the game. And Joan is a lying piece of crap and just a disgusting person how she won when she pretty much did nothing the whole game just shows what a joke the show was this season! Russ you summed it up perfectly I just wanted to put my two cents in.

 

[DKCards]

LOL..............

A little OT but I just love the tags you put on this thread Gee

 

[conraddobler]

Yeah I'm old enough to remember that she was essentially Kathy Griffin in her time, basically known for making fun of other people, pushing the edge a bit but I never considered her a "great" comic by any stretch.

I think she's had a great career and more power to her but just because you're a 75 year old comic does not mean you can compare someone to Hitler because they are at odds with your daughter.

The more I think about it the more surprised I am she won, when Melissa was fired, she completely flipped out, screaming at the camera folks and saying you won't get an interview from me etc. Trump even called her on it and chastised Joan but he didn't really come out and say that Joan walked off the show too. They had no idea if she was coming back. In a true business you would never pick someone that was that emotional.

I really felt the last 2 was kind of a setup they knew Annie and joan would be arguing and make for great TV, I never considered Joan would actually win.

Eh I didn't watch the show but my coworker was besides himself.

I just told him everything is rigged nowdays, I say that about a lot of sporting events too and people think I'm crazy but I still believe it's true.

I submit as proof the recent run of teams that never won, including the Cardinals, but all of it seems somehow scripted as in you have your time to win alloted to you.

I felt that way about the Red Sox and the whole Schilling sock fiasco, but I'm weird and no one else believes me.

It seems clear to me in some years there are scripted winners of important games and legendary out of nowhere stories, such as the hiome run chase between Sosa and McGuire, all later proven to be a lie, and the French and their eternal pursuit of you know who that kept winning the tour.

I'm very cynical in my old age about everything, to me things are way too pre-ordained and no one worries about cheating anymore.

 

[LV-Suns]

I was really surprised to see Joan Rivers win the whole thing. Annie Duke totally outplayed her in every task. She even made 4x the money in the final task(silent auction), but Joan ends up winning the task(WTF).

Joan Rivers did not deserve to be in the finale. The last task she actively participated was the one Trump jewelery auction. She doesn't screw up in most of the tasks, but she does nearly nothing.

 

[Rivercard]

It almost seemed staged with Green talking to the camera and then trying to piss off Annie over and over.

But this is supposed to be real TV. They wouldn't stage anything would they??? Nah......

If you don't think this stuff is orchestrated for ratings then you're just not thinking. Just look at who was left - a made for TV catfight perfectly tailored to the prime demographic.

 

[Rivercard]

I just told him everything is rigged nowdays, I say that about a lot of sporting events too and people think I'm crazy but I still believe it's true.

I'm pretty sure a majority of sporting events in general are not rigged simply because a sport and thousands of rediculously inflated incomes could be totally ruined by disclosure - too many people would have to be in on the scam and it's too risky. Though there certainly are rogue shenanigans at times (like the NBA ref for example). Look at baseball - the freaking Rays were in the world series last year and you just know the executives were groaning over those ratings. But the baseball powers that be do encourage certain outcomes by allowing priveledged teams to spend more money.

At least in football you know everyone will watch the Super Bowl no matter who is playing, so there is not as much incentive to script it up.

 

[Dida]

Sorry, but after watching the finale - am I the only one who is sure now that the whole thing is a staged soap opera? I don't refer to the whole celebrity/charity thing but the whole fighting and personal problem stuff.

First of - look at Jesse James: Trump asks him how he was doing now after drawing so much attention from the audience and voila - look who's promoting a new TV show: "Jesse James is a deadman". How convenient don't you think? Maybe his garage show wasn't drawing enough attention anymore.
Also why in the world did they wanna drag his wife into the game?

Didn't they see he did not want this at all? Even Trump kept asking him - but what I wanna know - nobody asked him to raise some money from his former Vivid pornstar wife Janine

Wouldn't that been funny - Trump asking Jesse to get Ron Jeremy on the phone


The other thing - I don't believe that Rodman drinking episode for one minute! If he really would have that problem he wouldn't drink coincidentally every time a freaking camera team is in his face.
I guess he just needs money so bad nowadays and after this Celebrity Apprentice he just paved himself his way to this Celebrity Rehab series. So don't be surprised if he will show up there soon...

Also, if Dennis would have this problem nobody on television would have the balls to say it to his face in front of millions of viewers - in a TV show for charity, that's just uncalled for I think.

 

[sundevilscott]

LOL..............

A little OT but I just love the tags you put on this thread Gee

Completely Agree!!

 

[Dida]

I guess he just needs money so bad nowadays and after this Celebrity Apprentice he just paved himself his way to this Celebrity Rehab series. So don't be surprised if he will show up there soon...

Looky here - wikipedia says season 3 will star:
Dennis Rodman

Sorry, but I couldn't help it