Chandler Jones to the Raiders

[QuebecCard]

If the Cards had given him $50m as FA neared, he's be praising Keim, KK, KM and VJ.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Enlighten us

Name more than 3-4 above average players currently on the roster we have drafted since 2015. It’s really that simple.

 

[wa52lz]

Disagree.
Keim played that one exactly right.
Jones was having a totally non productive **** year, then got injured and missed the rest of the 2020 season...
He starts 2021 like a boss with the best game of his career then proceeds to basically disappear for a month...
At neither point would chandler Jones have drawn greater compensation than the compensatory pick we will get for him signing elsewhere.
At the 2021 trade deadline dude had what? 6 sacks in the past two seasons combined?
He got some hurries and such but he wasn't closing the deal anymore...you want 8 or 10 sacks with a dozen hurries you pay Marcus Golden 8mil...you don't pay Chan Jones 18

He will see lots of single coverage playing across from crosby....Crosby.... I'll honestly be very surprised if he gets 12 sacks with all that single coverage
Guessing more like 7

I dont think we get a comp pick for him, someone mentioned something about a rule where you doent get comp picks for players with 10+ yrs in the league

 

[oaken1]

I dont think we get a comp pick for him, someone mentioned something about a rule where you doent get comp picks for players with 10+ yrs in the league

That may be the case.

Either way... imo it was better to get what he had left instead of what little he would have brought in a trade.

 

[juza76]

I dont think we get a comp pick for him, someone mentioned something about a rule where you doent get comp picks for players with 10+ yrs in the league

U can
U can't just get a third cause of him being 10+ years veteran
We should get a fifth based on his contract unless we sign someone in the next month with a similar contract

 

[juza76]

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Those statements are pretty funny
Must be the side effects of getting a huge contract
But i doubt he truly believes in what he said

 

[BritCard]

Disagree.
Keim played that one exactly right.
Jones was having a totally non productive **** year, then got injured and missed the rest of the 2020 season...
He starts 2021 like a boss with the best game of his career then proceeds to basically disappear for a month...
At neither point would chandler Jones have drawn greater compensation than the compensatory pick we will get for him signing elsewhere.
At the 2021 trade deadline dude had what? 6 sacks in the past two seasons combined?
He got some hurries and such but he wasn't closing the deal anymore...you want 8 or 10 sacks with a dozen hurries you pay Marcus Golden 8mil...you don't pay Chan Jones 18

He will see lots of single coverage playing across from crosby....Crosby.... I'll honestly be very surprised if he gets 12 sacks with all that single coverage
Guessing more like 7

Disagree. He had several teams interested in him and got paid $17m per on a multi year deal after a season where outside the first game he had 5 sacks in 16 games.

Teams absolutely would have traded at least a 3rd for him. Probably could have got a 3rd and a 5th at least.

 

[BritCard]

I dont think we get a comp pick for him, someone mentioned something about a rule where you doent get comp picks for players with 10+ yrs in the league

We do. It's a 5th. 5th is the max for a 10 year vet.

 

[oaken1]

Disagree. He had several teams interested in him and got paid $17m per on a multi year deal after a season where outside the first game he had 5 sacks in 16 games.

Teams absolutely would have traded at least a 3rd for him. Probably could have got a 3rd and a 5th at least.

your looking at the season as a whole... not what he was by the trade deadline

 

[BritCard]

your looking at the season as a whole... not what he was by the trade deadline

Well he was better at the trade deadline so that only strengthens my case. But we were never trading him on a winning streak. The time to trade him was in the offseason. A bicep injury is common and not a future concern so I don't think it would have effected his value.

 

[GatorAZ]

The franchise tag is 1/$17m compared to the 3/$51 he got from Vegas. I tag him in hindsight. If the heavy decline was real then he’s not our problem beyond this season.

 

[Stout]

The franchise tag is 1/$17m compared to the 3/$51 he got from Vegas. I tag him in hindsight. If the heavy decline was real then he’s not our problem beyond this season.

What happened to those posters who "knew" the tag was over $20 mill?

 

[MadCardDisease]

Chandler Jones held Sackless in 2 games:

Raiders' Chandler Jones held sack-less in revenge game vs. Cardinals - Arizona Sports

The Cardinals pulled off the 20-point comeback but also held Arizona's all-time sacks leader and the Raiders' Chandler Jones sack-less.

arizonasports.com

I love Chandler Jones and everything that he brought to the Cardinals. However it was time to move on from him especially at the price tag that he signed for at this stage in his career. The Raider will regret this signing as Jones skillset continues to deteriorate.

 

[Russ Smith]

Chandler Jones held Sackless in 2 games:

Raiders' Chandler Jones held sack-less in revenge game vs. Cardinals - Arizona Sports

The Cardinals pulled off the 20-point comeback but also held Arizona's all-time sacks leader and the Raiders' Chandler Jones sack-less.

arizonasports.com

I love Chandler Jones and everything that he brought to the Cardinals. However it was time to move on from him especially at the price tag that he signed for at this stage in his career. The Raider will regret this signing as Jones skillset continues to deteriorate.

I wonder it seemed like the Cards moved him around right or left trying to turn him loose. The Raiders it's Crosby on the left, jones on the right so he was going against Hump most of the game except when Hump was injured.

But he definitely wasn't a factor yesterday.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

It was good GMing to move from Jones.

It was terrible GMing not to replace him

 

[Cheesebeef]

It was good GMing to move from Jones.

It was terrible GMing not to replace him

This.

 

[MadCardDisease]

It was good GMing to move from Jones.

It was terrible GMing not to replace him

Very true

 

[QuebecCard]

It was good GMing to move from Jones.

It was terrible GMing not to replace him

With whom and at what price?

 

[Chris_Sanders]

With whom and at what price?

At this point? JPP is sitting at home.

Back when we could have created cap room? Reddick is the obvious choice but also Randy Gregory.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

With whom and at what price?

You think Keim made the right call by basically ignoring the need?

 

[MadCardDisease]

At this point? JPP is sitting at home.

Back when we could have created cap room? Reddick is the obvious choice but also Randy Gregory.

You had me at replacing him and then just listed a bunch of trash.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

You had me at replacing him and then just listed a bunch of trash.

Reddick isn't trash. He signed for 15 million a year, which is a near exact match for Jones.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Gregory had a strip sack yesterday. Calling either of them trash when they would immediately be our second best pass rusher is funny.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Reddick isn't trash. He signed for 15 million a year, which is a near exact match for Jones.

I do like Reddick. However I think Reddick has some bad blood with respect to the Cardinals and they probably weren't on his list.

 

[QuebecCard]

At this point? JPP is sitting at home.

Back when we could have created cap room? Reddick is the obvious choice but also Randy Gregory.

Well, there may be some sound reasoning behind why JPP is sitting at home.

Reddick is an eastern guy and got a good deal in Philly at $15m per year, $45m over three years.

Gregory, who produced six sacks in 2021 and 16.5 over his career, got five years and $70m from Denver. Too rich for my tastes.