Charlie Weis's Disdain for Josh Rosen

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I could be wrong.. but I could see Goff struggle to stay consistent with his game in the coming years. If the Rams don't surround that dude with massive talent, he will be in trouble. Imo
 

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Does Weis get credit for Tom Brady?
I'd say "no" considering he wasn't a part of the staff when Brady was drafted and Brady exploded AFTER Weis left. Brady was a solid QB during Weis' time but he became otherworldly without him.

Weis' greatest QB success was getting Vinny Testatverde to have his best season. But that has nothing to do with drafting and identifying a prospect.
 

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I could be wrong.. but I could see Goff struggle to stay consistent with his game in the coming years. If the Rams don't surround that dude with massive talent, he will be in trouble. Imo

Breaking point is going to be when he is off his rookie deal
 

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I could be wrong.. but I could see Goff struggle to stay consistent with his game in the coming years. If the Rams don't surround that dude with massive talent, he will be in trouble. Imo
I think it's already started. Goff looked like the next QB superstar against KC last year. And that was not long after a huge game against Minnesota. The Goff train was a-rollin'. Since the bye though? In 8 games he's posted a 75 rating and terrible overall numbers. To me, it very much seems that the league has figured out a way to counter the presnap communication "crutch" McVay was using with Goff and he hasn't been able to adjust. He literally looks as ineffective as he did as a rookie under Fisher. Which is scary. Even if that tactic was a huge part of his success and it was taken away, he should have progressed further in the last 3 years.
 

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I think it's already started. Goff looked like the next QB superstar against KC last year. And that was not long after a huge game against Minnesota. The Goff train was a-rollin'. Since the bye though? In 8 games he's posted a 75 rating and terrible overall numbers. To me, it very much seems that the league has figured out a way to counter the presnap communication "crutch" McVay was using with Goff and he hasn't been able to adjust. He literally looks as ineffective as he did as a rookie under Fisher. Which is scary. Even if that tactic was a huge part of his success and it was taken away, he should have progressed further in the last 3 years.

This is funny because Goff is literally used as the why keep Rosen argument.
 

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Mmm, so u are good evaluating yourself:rolleyes:

Maybe u are but, im here since 2008 and u started to post just when Rosen become the main subject here

And not that it matters but just to clarify one more time, i have been following this board since i was 15 reading everyones comments including yours. Been a cardinals fan since I was 5 years old. They are my team and always will be regardless of the dumb decisions are FO makes
 

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Ok lol i was talking football and you made a smart a** comment i made one back. Its all fun to me

I prefer Murray as our future qb, but I still be a Rosen fan till the day he wears the Cardinals jersey
The guy was born my same day and month (unfortunately different years) So I have some simpathy for him, then I really like him as a person, from what I can perceive from his interviews
Just a bit disappointed about his rookie season cause I think he had to show something more despite bad coaching and bad cast around him
 

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I can't think of any other rookie QB from last year that could have done any better than JR behind this dismal O-line from last year.
Still haven't seen anyone mention anything about what Rosen actually does well other than the ability to not die behind the O-line.
 

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Still haven't seen anyone mention anything about what Rosen actually does well other than the ability to not die behind the O-line.
Because you have blinders on and it is useless to show because you will dismiss it. Same with all these 1 sided arguments.
 
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