Charmin Marvin Harrison Jr Thread

[Red on White]

The chemistry between Kyler and Marvin doesn't seem to have improved as the season has gone on which is worrying.

 

[602 Native]

Zero growth in a young prospect points to coaching to me.

Talk about squandering talent.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

The chemistry between Kyler and Marvin doesn't seem to have improved as the season has gone on which is worrying.

This is the strange part

 

[Russ Smith]

Watching the Field Yates ESPN review of Marv in college and I swear he's talking about a different kid.

Great after the catch, YAC beast. What?
What he does the best is make contested catches. What?

The funny thing is I watched the first 2 minutes of the video and almost every catch they showed was a body catch, I now totally get what Stroud meant when he called him a body catcher.

 

[Russ Smith]

In hindsignt I wish the Cards had a guy like D HOp they brought back just for the 1 year so Marv's rookie season wasn't all on him to be the guy. And also to give Marv someone to look at and learn from for one year. I know D Hop is not a big practice guy but so many things he did are things Marv really struggles with, contested catches, highpointing the ball, protecting the ball with his body, etc.
I think that's probably the biggest failure for him with the Cards this year that the most experienced receivers on the roster are dortch and Zay Jones.

 

[imaCafan]

In hindsight I wish the Cards had a guy like D HOp they brought back just for the 1 year so Marv's rookie season wasn't all on him to be the guy. And also to give Marv someone to look at and learn from for one year. I know D Hop is not a big practice guy but so many things he did are things Marv really struggles with, contested catches, highpointing the ball, protecting the ball with his body, etc.
I think that's probably the biggest failure for him with the Cards this year that the most experienced receivers on the roster are dortch and Zay Jones.

Not having DHop this year, in my opinion, probably cost us 2-3 more in the "W" column. That's my story and, well, you know...

 

[Cheesebeef]

Zero growth in a young prospect points to coaching to me.

Talk about squandering talent.

this is the most disturbing thing about both our staff and Harrison. He's getting WORSE as the season goes on. That's really worrisome.

 

[Russ Smith]

Not having DHop this year, in my opinion, probably cost us 2-3 more in the "W" column. That's my story and, well, you know...

Yeah I know it was a money decision and it works for him he might be in the Super Bowl this year, but I think that would have been a real help to Marv this year to have a guy like that. I guess the argument is D Hop would be the X receiver and that's what they drafted Marv to do.

even a guy like Thielen who just knows how to get open and catch the ball would have been so valuable for Marv to have to learn from this year.

I saw a comment that rang true yesterday. In college he was a big fast guy and teams were concerned about him going by them so when he ran his route he was usually open. NFL teams started out early playing safeties over the top but quickly figured out, we don't really have to worry about him going by us, outside of a few busted plays where someone fell down or someone totally busted coverage, he hasn't ran by anybody all year. So those routes in front are now heavily contested, and he just isn't competitive enough for those balls

 

[Russ Smith]

this is the most disturbing thing about both our staff and Harrison. He's getting WORSE as the season goes on. That's really worrisome.

The thing I was watching earlier the guy was saying it's scouting reports. You see it regularly in college basketball the "freshman wall" is often not really about fatigue it's about by conference play teams have a scouting report, a book, on everyone and freshmen have to adjust to it.

I think that's the issue with Marv, and Kyler. Teams have figured out nobody on this team, except maybe Zay, can actually run by anybody. So they don't give Marv the room he was used to getting. as the season goes on I actually think Marv is getting less safety over the top not more, teams have realized he's not going to run by the CB 1 on 1

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Our WR room is a disaster.

 

[Russ Smith]

Too many Marv threads but needs to be said.

Marv has 2 games this year over 100 yards, Rams and Miami. The Rams were missing THREE starters in their secondary for that game. The Dolphins were missing 2.

The next highest yards total he's had this year, 64, then 60. 10 of his 15 games this year he's had less than 50 yards receiving. We are seven games removed from the Dolphins game.

Whatever the issue is, it's real.

 

[Russ Smith]

Too many Marv threads but needs to be said.

Marv has 2 games this year over 100 yards, Rams and Miami. The Rams were missing THREE starters in their secondary for that game. The Dolphins were missing 2.

The next highest yards total he's had this year, 64, then 60. 10 of his 15 games this year he's had less than 50 yards receiving. We are seven games removed from the Dolphins game.

Whatever the issue is, it's real.

Forgot to add. According to "advanced stats" he has forced exactly ONE missed tacklet this year.

 

[D-Dogg]

Marv needs to live with Fitz this off-season.

 

[Russ Smith]

Marv needs to live with Fitz this off-season.

In terms of what he needs to add to his game I think hanging with Anquan would help him more. Be a grown azz man.

 

[Stout]

Marv needs to do some long soul searching in the offseason. He needs to do a lot of work. He also needs a new QB that will help him develop his game.

 

[slanidrac16]

We just need to pretend he doesn't exist. That the pick did not happen, we did not have #4 in the last draft, just #27. Call it Bob if you really need to refer to it.

We will get a WR1 in free agency and that will spark an offense that was undermanned at WR this year. It was incredibly irresponsible of Monti to go into the season with just Wilson, Dortch and Jones at WR.

For people saying that Bob's 1st season reminds them of Fitzgerald's, it reminds me a lot more of Jerry Jeudy's.

Well we tried. We had the tiniest Wr room in the league. We moved on from Brown and the other little guy that can no longer recall.

 

[slanidrac16]

Marv needs to do some long soul searching in the offseason. He needs to do a lot of work. He also needs a new QB that will help him develop his game.

He needs to develop an attitude. Way too passive.

 

[DVontel]

I will say I do believe Kyler is at least 85% of the reason Marv hasn’t been what we were hoping


But if Marv, BTJ, & Nabers all played with the same QB, I believe BTJ & Nabers would still be better.

 

[602 Native]

I will say I do believe Kyler is at least 85% of the reason Marv hasn’t been what we were hoping


But if Marv, BTJ, & Nabers all played with the same QB, I believe BTJ & Nabers would still be better.

Nabers has played with 3 different QBs. The difference is Dabol is actually an offensive genius while we have Peturd.

 

[imaCafan]

Watched Coleman high point a TD pass from Allen. He was in a crowd but it looked effortless on his part. Thought that was what we would be getting from MHJ…

 

[SoonerLou]

I will say I do believe Kyler is at least 85% of the reason Marv hasn’t been what we were hoping


But if Marv, BTJ, & Nabers all played with the same QB, I believe BTJ & Nabers would still be better.

Kyler is to blame for MHJ.

However, I think Cards fans would be feeling better about Kyler if he had Nabers. Supercharged Kirk to help restore the deep ball thats been missing.

MHJ needs well...a CJ Stroud kind of QB who can layer throws over the middle to him.

 

[602 Native]

Kyler is to blame for MHJ.

However, I think Cards fans would be feeling better about Kyler if he had Nabers. Supercharged Kirk to help restore the deep ball thats been missing.

MHJ needs well...a CJ Stroud kind of QB who can layer throws over the middle to him.

MHJ needs a better coordinator and more of a mean streak.

Again McBride has zero issue getting balls from K1. We don’t have a single WR with 1K yards. It’s a feature of this offense to deprioritize the WR position.

 

[GatorAZ]

Nabers has played with 3 different QBs. The difference is Dabol is actually an offensive genius while we have Peturd.

The Giants have been the worst offense in the league for two years.

 

[Cheesebeef]

MHJ needs a better coordinator and more of a mean streak.

Again McBride has zero issue getting balls from K1. We don’t have a single WR with 1K yards. It’s a feature of this offense to deprioritize the WR position.

McBride has zero issues getting balls from K1 because the majority of them are within 10 yards or less from point of catch.

It’s a feature of Kyler Murray to deprioritize the WR position ever since the mid-point of 2021.

 

[Cheesebeef]

The Giants have been the worst offense in the league for two years.

Calling Dabol an offensive genius, as head coach of one of the worst offenses in football since he took the Giants job is the funniest ways to make a roundabout defense of Kyler that I’ve seen yet.