Chike to get an MRI on arm.

[Redheart]

No, you're right... In order for me to be right, every player needs to have been injured or gotten pushed off the LOS.

For you to be right , you would have proof that Chike injury was due to Lott's incompetence and Whiz "soft" camp. What I read was a opinon that was "lost" without any logical basis.

You don't even know the extent of the injury or what kind of injury it is, or how it occured. He could have got his arm trapped in a pile; do you have some medical basis for linking this type of injury with poor conditioning and soft training camps?

When I was visiting up at Flag, the team looked in great shape; quotes from all the players about the great off-season conditioning program, the superior attendence (near 100%), etc. There have been several articles about Chike and his dedication to his body; conditioning and nutrition.

I could go on like this all day...

 

[Mulli]

So do we know how Chike injured his bicep? An injured bicep is a result of a poor conditioning or light hitting camp?


Stretch Armstrong appears to be live and well.

 

[kerouac9]

From azcentral.com.....


Injury report

Center Nick Leckey has a sprained left knee ligament and will be out two to four weeks. OLB Chike Okeafor suffered a biceps injury. He'll have an MRI today Left knee; safety Terrence Holt, ribs; safety Aaron Francisco, left ankle; linebacker Monty Beisel, back spasms. Initial indication is that none of the injuries is serious.

Obviously, this team is tough and in tip-top form. They were ready for a quarter's worth of live-fire.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I'm just hoping that Chike will not be out too long ...

Who would take his place .. ?? Blackstock ... ??

 

[Redheart]

Obviously, this team is tough and in tip-top form. They were ready for a quarter's worth of live-fire.

I am required by Cyber Law to inform you that your argument has become untenable.

Continuing to debate this issue would probably inflict great harm to your psyche.

I am required to warn you and gain your approval for the can of cyber "whup-butt" that will be opened for your consumption.

 

[Mulli]

I am required by Cyber Law to inform you that your argument has become untenable.

Continuing to debate this issue would probably inflict great harm to your psyche.

I am required to warn you and gain your approval for the can of cyber "whup-butt" that will be opened for your consumption.

mid-season form

 

[Cheesebeef]

Please stop the "thought-police" role.

I was speaking to K9.

"thought-police"? Who's telling you what to think? I just think it's completely unnecessary to ask a question which has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand and only serves as something to flame someone else, thereby derailing what people are talking about. It's called trolling.

 

[Redheart]

"thought-police"? Who's telling you what to think? I just think it's completely unnecessary to ask a question which has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand and only serves as something to flame someone else, thereby derailing what people are talking about. It's called trolling.

K9 usually has well founded arguments and put, even if they tend a little to the pessimist side for my tastes. Every now and then, he come with something that appears absurd.

This was the case here and my reference to every now and then, he just loses it.

How I choose to challenge one of those "flyers" is who I am. I didn't flame him, I was proceeding to engage him on his "opinion". In fact, I have done so in the body of this thread, speaking to his topic. Indeed, the only derailing of the topic has been done by you...

Cheese, K9 doesn't need your help and I don't appreciate you trying to correct me on how I choose to engage on this board, hence, the "thought police" reference.

Are you calling me a troll? I didn't think so....

 

[Syracusecards]

Injury Update

From ESPN.


Chike Okeafor
, Ari DE
Archive | ESPN Content
Arizona Cardinals

Probable
News: Okeafor sustained a biceps injury in Saturday's preseason game and will have an MRI on Sunday, according to the Arizona Republic.

Spin: The initial indication is that the injury is minor. Hopefully that's the case for the consistent Okeafor, who led Arizona in sacks last year.

 

[Gambit]

From ESPN.


Chike Okeafor
, Ari DE
Archive | ESPN Content
Arizona Cardinals

Probable
News: Okeafor sustained a biceps injury in Saturday's preseason game and will have an MRI on Sunday, according to the Arizona Republic.

Spin: The initial indication is that the injury is minor. Hopefully that's the case for the consistent Okeafor, who led Arizona in sacks last year.

so we should know soon, one way or the other, since the MRI is today

 

[Syracusecards]

Injury List for all teams

So every one of these teams is soft and needs a new strength and conditioning coach?

Our O-line is in the best shape it's ever been. Everyone has lost weight and added muscle mass. Sorry K-9, you're comment holds no logic.

http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/resources/leagueinjuries

 

[MadCardDisease]

Thank goodness for John Lott's conditioning program.

This is why he got fired in Cleveland.

Soft camps and poor conditioning leads to these things.

Dude you are skating on thin ice again!

Not once have you questioned Lott's conditioning program in the past. In fact you even mention that Branch hasn't spent enough time with Lott to get into game shape:
http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1383468&postcount=19

Now all of a sudden Lott doesn't run a good conditioning program? You are like a shark smelling blood in the water when it comes to something negative happens to the Cardinals. However, I think you just enjoy stiring the pot. That seems to be your MO.

 

[SuperSpck]

Dude you are skating on thin ice again!

Not once have you questioned Lott's conditioning program in the past. In fact you even mention that Branch hasn't spent enough time with Lott to get into game shape:
http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1383468&postcount=19

Now all of a sudden Lott doesn't run a good conditioning program? You are like a shark smelling blood in the water when it comes to something negative happens to the Cardinals. However, I think you just enjoy stiring the pot. That seems to be your MO.

Makes for more dynamic conversation when there is conflict. Nothing can be as bland as agreement.

 

[Gambit]

Makes for more dynamic conversation when there is conflict. Nothing can be as bland as agreement.

I agree on all points.

 

[SuperSpck]

I agree on all points.

I disagree with you agreeing with me and resubmit my opinion of homogenization as wrong!

 

[Gambit]

I disagree with you agreeing with me and resubmit my opinion of homogenization as wrong!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLQQhU9YjNo

 

[BigRedRage]

This was apparently a fluke injury. Coach Ken Whisenhunt said it came when Okeafor reached for a runner – like a ton of players do each game – and when he grabbed the jersey, Okeafor’s bicep apparently gave. It can happy to anyone in every day life. It just so happened to hurt Okeafor (who, by the way, continued to play for the rest of the drive, which ended on the Raiders’ first touchdown).

Perhaps the point I am trying to make is that, while conspiracy theories abound, Chike Okeafor didn’t get hurt because he was not conditioned or in shape. Okeafor would be one of the Cards’ poster children for being physically fit for football. He just caught an unfortunate break.

per urban

 

[Cheesebeef]

man, that just sucks. Chike's no world beater but he's a solid defender on a team that doesn't have a whole lot of solid defenders. Hopefully Blackstock can surprise us. He definitely talks the talk, now it's time to see if he can walk the walk!

 

[football karma]

"This was apparently a fluke injury. Coach Ken Whisenhunt said it came when Okeafor reached for a runner – like a ton of players do each game – and when he grabbed the jersey, Okeafor’s bicep apparently gave. It can happy to anyone in every day life. It just so happened to hurt Okeafor (who, by the way, continued to play for the rest of the drive, which ended on the Raiders’ first touchdown).

Perhaps the point I am trying to make is that, while conspiracy theories abound, Chike Okeafor didn’t get hurt because he was not conditioned or in shape. Okeafor would be one of the Cards’ poster children for being physically fit for football. He just caught an unfortunate break. "


Muscle tears come disproportionately from guys who put wayyyyyy too much muscle mass on a frame that isnt designed to hold it. Its a body builder type injury (and also an injury that steriod users get)--


Chike wasnt built like that -- much more of a sleek guy -- and one that actually took a little bulk off this offseason for the move to linebacker

bad break

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Actually, can't tears like this happen from too much conditioning?

 

[BigRedRage]

it can happen from anything. If you grab a guy at a bad angle and get your arm ripped from him running you can split your muscle.

 

[Shane]

it can happen from anything. If you grab a guy at a bad angle and get your arm ripped from him running you can split your muscle.

Not to my arms. Have you ever seen these bad boys?

 

[BigRedRage]

its just the jerking reaction from an arm tackle. You are not taught to not arm tackle only because the tackle sucks, its also a great way to get injured.

 

[football karma]

per Somers on Ross' injury:

"Ross actually suffered his torn tricep in practice last week. He got hit in the arm with a helmet and noticed some weakness, Whisenhunt said. Ross didn't think it was a big deal, but he had trouble "punching" in his pass block sets last Saturday in Oakland."

 

[Linderbee]

Not to my arms. Have you ever seen these bad boys?

If we need an examination done...


/just sayin'...