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[Brian in Mesa]

I repeatedly hear "It's not about the money." from Curt Schilling, in interviews, etc.

A host on 910 am today is ripping Schilling for even saying that...then signing a HUGE multi-milion dollar deal to play for the Red Sox. Among other ideas tossed out (on the Garret and Gramps Show) - why didn't Curt just take a pay cut to stay in AZ and pitch with RJ (best 1-2 combo in the league in recent years) - if it's not all about the $.

Again, these are not my opinions, just what's on local radio today.

 

[Ryanwb]

Yeah I didn't understand this as well. He said he has more money than he can ever spend.....but then he wanted a huge guaranteed extension.....

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Originally posted by Ryanwb
Yeah I didn't understand this as well. He said he has more money than he can ever spend.....but then he wanted a huge guaranteed extension.....

Exactly.

Curt said "I'd love to stay and finish my career in Arizona." and "It's not about the money."

The obvious thing to do in that case would have been to take less money, or restructure the deal so he gets paid over a longer time, etc and finish his career in Az.

But, regardless of what he has said, it does come down to money.

 

[thirty-two]

Good points.

Didn't Curt also say he wants to win another World Series? If it wasn't about the money (so he says), then maybe he thought he'd have a better chance with the Red Sox to get another ring.

I'm not totally convinced it was all about the money - but I think it probably was a bigger factor than he let on.

 

[BC867]

Originally posted by Brian in Mesa
... why didn't Curt just take a pay cut to stay in AZ and pitch with RJ (best 1-2 combo in the league in recent years) - if it's not all about the $.

The D'backs couldn't bring their budget in line, even with a pay cut.

It was either lose Curt at the end of next season, or trade him now.

As much as I wanted Curt to stay, moving Webb up to #2 and adding the HR bat of Sexson, I believe, will make us a more competitive club.

As long as Bob Brenly's approach is to wait for the homerun, we need power in the middle of the lineup.

Jerry is giving the Manager what he wants. Once it happens, let's see what Brenly does with it.

 

[jw7]

Originally posted by Brian in Mesa
Exactly.

Curt said "I'd love to stay and finish my career in Arizona." and "It's not about the money."

The obvious thing to do in that case would have been to take less money, or restructure the deal so he gets paid over a longer time, etc and finish his career in Az.

But, regardless of what he has said, it does come down to money.

I disagree w/that. I don't think he needs the money. Curt is all about ego and challenge and I don't mean that in a negative way.

I believe he wants to end the Boston curse and if he can do that and win 1-2 games in a Boston WS win he'll get in the HOF.

In this situation, I think the money is more a matter of respect than greed. A legit year after year Cy Young canidate for 12-13M is NOT that expensive when you look at some of the other ridiculous baseball salaries out there. Heck Matt Mantei is making $7M.

 

[wierwolf]

Think about what kind of hero he would be if he stopped the curse. He might have been a great 1-2 punch here... but i think they have the best 1-2-3 punch there.... Schill, Pedro, and Derek Lowe? If they get Foulke like they want... They are gonna look pretty tough club...... Good luck Schill!!!!! and thanks for the memories!!!

 

[Gee!]

I believe the players association has alot to do with it. Curt wanted an extension. And when signing contracts the players association pressures players to get the most that they can to up the average salary. I believe Jim Thome had to do this last year too, he would have loved to stay in Cleveland, but the Phillies offered more. Just my opinion.

 

[devilalum]

Originally posted by thirty-two
Good points.

Didn't Curt also say he wants to win another World Series? If it wasn't about the money (so he says), then maybe he thought he'd have a better chance with the Red Sox to get another ring.

I'm not totally convinced it was all about the money - but I think it probably was a bigger factor than he let on.

Exactly

I don't think Curt would have played for Tampa Bay for a 100 mil.

But he also wasn't going to play for the Sox unless he got the fat extention.

 

[moviegeekjn]

Originally posted by Brian in Mesa
But, regardless of what he has said, it does come down to money.

Gross oversimplification.

Curt has a certain market value that the D'backs had already indicated that they would NOT attempt to meet in 2005... something Curt had suspected when JC announced the downsizing of the budget, and the knowledge that both Gonzo and Randy had hefty contracts.

Why should ANY player sacrifice his market value deliberately?

Curt has an obligation to his fellow union members to strive for fair market value. The D'backs had made it plain that they were going a different direction, so there are a number of other teams that would take Curt's services... however, only three teams surfaced that interested him. Boston hadn't intrigued him either, until their manager situation crystalized into Francona.

I see no need to direct bitterness towards Curt on this whole development.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Originally posted by moviegeekjn
I see no need to direct bitterness towards Curt on this whole development.

I don't see any bitterness.

What's wrong with people comparing a player's words to a player's actions?

 

[schillingfan]

Originally posted by Brian in Mesa
I don't see any bitterness.

What's wrong with people comparing a player's words to a player's actions?

Well, the problem is that you don't understand the words. What does "it isn't about the money" mean? For some reasons fans would like to interpret that to mean "I will play for half my market value for "X" team and allow the owner to pocket more profit.

What it really means is that I won't go to the highest bidder (see A-Rod) and there are other considerations more important than money.

Curt would have gotten that money in a number of cities, which coincidentally are all teams that will likely be in the playoffs. If it was about the money he would have waited to be free agent and sold himself to the highest bidder.

 

[KingofCards]

Originally posted by schillingfan
Well, the problem is that you don't understand the words. What does "it isn't about the money" mean? For some reasons fans would like to interpret that to mean "I will play for half my market value for "X" team and allow the owner to pocket more profit.

What it really means is that I won't go to the highest bidder (see A-Rod) and there are other considerations more important than money.

Curt would have gotten that money in a number of cities, which coincidentally are all teams that will likely be in the playoffs. If it was about the money he would have waited to be free agent and sold himself to the highest bidder.

So Curt's in Boston now. Doesn't that mean you should be too??/

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Originally posted by schillingfan
Well, the problem is that you don't understand the words. What does "it isn't about the money" mean? For some reasons fans would like to interpret that to mean "I will play for half my market value for "X" team and allow the owner to pocket more profit.

What it really means is that I won't go to the highest bidder (see A-Rod) and there are other considerations more important than money.

Curt would have gotten that money in a number of cities, which coincidentally are all teams that will likely be in the playoffs. If it was about the money he would have waited to be free agent and sold himself to the highest bidder.

I see what you're saying, but he went further than that.

On local radio he has said many times that he already has more money than he'll ever spend.

He also said that the two places he wanted to play more than anywhere else were here in AZ or back in Philly.

If money doesn't matter, why not work it out to play in either location?

 

[schillingfan]

Originally posted by Brian in Mesa
If money doesn't matter, why not work it out to play in either location?

Because neither team wanted him I would say. D-Backs told him he didn't fit in their plans even though he offered to play for less in an extension. The Phillies never offered anything of value for him.

Are you suggesting he should agree to play for $5 mil a year, when his market value is $12-$13?

Would you do that?

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Originally posted by schillingfan
Are you suggesting he should agree to play for $5 mil a year, when his market value is $12-$13?

Would you do that?

I can't say what I would do if I was already a multi-millionaire who had a World Series ring. It's not the real world.

 

[Ryanwb]

Originally posted by KingofCards
So Curt's in Boston now. Doesn't that mean you should be too??/

OMFG you owe me a beer because I just spit mine all over the place

 

[CatBoxBackFan]

Its not the money,its the fans.

The fans made me go

Thanks for telling us,I would have graveled a little more to keep you here,pitch well or your new freinds will turn on you in a flash.