Chris Paul enters COVID Protocol

[Bufalay]

We do?

Initial reports were that the mRNA vaccines were 90-95% effective at preventing infection. More recent (real world) data seem largely consistent.

Here is a summary article:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01505-x

A nationwide vaccination campaign in Israel found the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccine, co-developed by Pfizer in New York City and BioNTech in Mainz, Germany, to be 95% effective against SARS-CoV-2 infection seven days or more after the second dose3.

Data are reported here:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33964222/

I haven't kept up with the literature on this so 5-10% might not be exactly correct. But it is true that some vaccinated individuals will contract the virus. The good news has always been that this small population will experience much milder symptoms than the un-vaccinated population.

 

[elindholm]

Initial reports were that the mRNA vaccines were 90-95% effective at preventing infection.

But in order to get to 5-10% positives among vaccinated, you have to assume that literally everyone either contracts or "would have" contracted the disease.

I haven't kept up with the literature on this so 5-10% might not be exactly correct.

That's an understatement. It's like saying that if condoms are 90-95% effective, 5-10% of women will be pregnant at all times.

 

[SunsFanFirst]

The vaccine doesnt prevent you from contracting the virus and thus testing positive.. it just helps you to elicit the right response to fight it when you do.

 

[Bufalay]

But in order to get to 5-10% positives among vaccinated, you have to assume that literally everyone either contracts or "would have" contracted the disease.



That's an understatement. It's like saying that if condoms are 90-95% effective, 5-10% of women will be pregnant at all times.

You're right 5-10% doesn't mean that 5-10% of the vaccinated population tested positive. It means that the infection rate in the vaccinated population is 5-10% of the infection rate in the unvaccinated population.

The important point is that the rate of infection in vaccinated people is not zero.

 

[Bufalay]

The vaccine doesnt prevent you from contracting the virus and thus testing positive.. it just helps you to elicit the right response to fight it when you do.

That immune response will keep the viral titer low enough that you are much less likely to test positive though.

 

[Bufalay]

But in order to get to 5-10% positives among vaccinated, you have to assume that literally everyone either contracts or "would have" contracted the disease.



That's an understatement. It's like saying that if condoms are 90-95% effective, 5-10% of women will be pregnant at all times.

Are you trying to argue that it's likely that Paul's test was a false positive because the breakthrough rate is significantly smaller than the false positive rate? I assume he would've been tested multiple times.

 

[GatorAZ]

But in order to get to 5-10% positives among vaccinated, you have to assume that literally everyone either contracts or "would have" contracted the disease.



That's an understatement. It's like saying that if condoms are 90-95% effective, 5-10% of women will be pregnant at all times.

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[BigRedRage]

so many disease specialists on this forum

 

[Bufalay]

so many disease specialists on this forum

Scientists like the Suns too.

 

[SunsFanFirst]

Well one thing is for certain.. we dont have any statics scholars in this group lol

This thread can be summed up so far to..

•Chris Paul presumably tested positive for covid (professional sports teams lie all the time about what is really wrong with a given player so for all we know his shoulder flared up or something else)
•Chris Paul presumably got vaccinated (again short of Chris Paul showing us a legit vaccine card we will prob never know.. again they lie about these things)
•Most important if Chris Paul has covid he will be fine vaccinated or not.. he is a healthy 36 year old in peak athletic condition. Certainly he is not vitamin D deficient and has a top notch medical team looking after him

 

[Mainstreet]

Nope. Much bigger rivalry from your side. We'll just reload and go for title #18 next year.

You are a good sport, BIM

 

[RockinDaMike]

I feel much better listening to Flex on Solar Panel.


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[Chris_Sanders]

Well one thing is for certain.. we dont have any statics scholars in this group lol

This thread can be summed up so far to..

•Chris Paul presumably tested positive for covid (professional sports teams lie all the time about what is really wrong with a given player so for all we know his shoulder flared up or something else)
•Chris Paul presumably got vaccinated (again short of Chris Paul showing us a legit vaccine card we will prob never know.. again they lie about these things)
•Most important if Chris Paul has covid he will be fine vaccinated or not.. he is a healthy 36 year old in peak athletic condition. Certainly he is not vitamin D deficient and has a top notch medical team looking after him

Time to cull the poster apparently. 3 day break

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

My apologies for being “that guy” but I have been out of the loop today… did we actually learn anything relevant today?

 

[JCSunsfan]

Time to cull the poster apparently. 3 day break

?? Did I miss something? How does that post warrant a break? Not arguing, just mystified.

 

[JCSunsfan]

So. The key to this right now will be for the Jazz to win another game and then hope for no symptoms and two neg tests for Chris.

we can do this.

 

[Ronin]

My apologies for being “that guy” but I have been out of the loop today… did we actually learn anything relevant today?

Nothing of substance was revealed today. Just more guessing from us...

 

[Cheesebeef]

My apologies for being “that guy” but I have been out of the loop today… did we actually learn anything relevant today?

lol... nope!

 

[Mainstreet]

Nothing of substance was revealed today. Just more guessing from us...

Don't forget FLEX From Jersey. Good news coming!

 

[Chris_Sanders]

?? Did I miss something? How does that post warrant a break? Not arguing, just mystified.

Part 3 is an attempt to continue the prior COVID conversation

 

[95pro]

What’s p&r?

 

[GatorAZ]

What’s p&r?

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[AzStevenCal]

What’s p&r?

It's the politics and religion forum here.

 

[Superbone]

It's the politics and religion forum here.

Actually here, it's a pick and roll.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Actually here, it's a pick and roll.

Not Pizza and Rootbeer?