Chris Paul trade?

[Lorenzo]

If this trade goes through for the lakers and they don't get howard I don't know that it works out for the best for them. kobe and paul both dominate the basketball and I don't know that they fit on the same team....unless they look to trade kobe for howard.

they lose a lot of parts that they would have probably needed to get howard. I doubt the magic will give howard for bynum only. the nets and mavs can probably offer more parts and a BIG. we will see how this all plays out.



the knicks were probably trying to get paul...they do need a guard.

 

[KloD]

The Hornets GM should have been fired over accepting the previous offer! 3 guys in their 30's with huge amounts owed and Dragic... How anyone could with a straight face claim that to be a good deal for N.O. is beyond me. There's plenty to complain about in regards to Stern, but blocking that trade should be applauded. Bynum should be going to N.O., otherwise I don't see
that Houston or L.A. have sufficiant pieces to make this an acceptable trade.

 

[JCSunsfan]

The Hornets GM should have been fired over accepting the previous offer! 3 guys in their 30's with huge amounts owed and Dragic... How anyone could with a straight face claim that to be a good deal for N.O. is beyond me. There's plenty to complain about in regards to Stern, but blocking that trade should be applauded. Bynum should be going to N.O., otherwise I don't see
that Houston or L.A. have sufficiant pieces to make this an acceptable trade.

True. Simple rule in this league. You are not trading players, you are trading contracts.

 

[SunsTzu]

The Hornets GM should have been fired over accepting the previous offer!

Dell Demps, you know the guy who would rather go to a team with no owner and who's star player is trying to force his way out rather than work for Sarver.

 

[Town Drunk]

Per rotoworld:

The trade sending Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Clippers "has died".
There are truly no words as to what is going on under David Stern's watch right now. With two trades now blown apart, it's anybody's guess as to what package might interest the league and is actually realistically achievable. Stern has trapped Paul in New Orleans, and while the deal could still be revisited, the mark left on the league and Stern's legacy as a result of his circus is undeniable.
Related: Clippers
Source: Adrian Wojnarowski on Twitter
Dec 12 - 2:02 PM

 

[tobiazz]

"The NBA wants the Clippers to add Eric Bledsoe to their offer, which already includes Eric Gordon, Chris Kaman, Al-Farouq Aminu and Minnesota's 2012 first round pick."

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/...-hornets-chris-paul-submitted-nba-source-says

That's just crazy. It's so much better than the LAL deal. NBA says, basically, three high draft picks is not enough for Paul.

 

[Dback Jon]

Where was the N B A when the Lakers got Gasol for nothing?

 

[PDXChris]

Where was the N B A when the Lakers got Gasol for nothing?

They didn't own the Grizzlies. They own the Hornets.

 

[Renz]

Where was the N B A when the Lakers got Gasol for nothing?

Memphis made the playoffs because of that trade. Marc Gasol is a borderline all-star now.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Memphis made the playoffs because of that trade. Marc Gasol is a borderline all-star now.

Talk about spin, at the time Gasol was a lightly regarded 2nd rounder. It's entirely coincidence that he ever turned into anything.

That being said, the fact that both LA trades were stopped is ridiculous.

 

[Renz]

Talk about spin, at the time Gasol was a lightly regarded 2nd rounder. It's entirely coincidence that he ever turned into anything.

That being said, the fact that both LA trades were stopped is ridiculous.

How is that spin? That's fact. All trades involve risk. Memphis traded for Marc because they saw his potential and he turned out to be a very good player. Kwame Brown's expiring contract allowed Memphis to sign Zach Randolph.

My point is that Memphis didn't "get nothing" for Pau. It worked out pretty well for both sides. That's why trades can't fairly be judged 10 minutes after they happen.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

How is that spin? That's fact. All trades involve risk. Memphis traded for Marc because they saw his potential and he turned out to be a very good player. Kwame Brown's expiring contract allowed Memphis to sign Zach Randolph.

My point is that Memphis didn't "get nothing" for Pau. It worked out pretty well for both sides. That's why trades can't fairly be judged 10 minutes after they happen.

It's spin because Memphis had a very valuable asset that it sold for pennies on the dollar and without competition. In fact several GM's had much better offers and Memphis didn't even solicit bids. Only the most delusional Lakers fans don't recognize this reality, as it's common knowledge among NBA fans/writers/front offices.

 

[Renz]

It's spin because Memphis had a very valuable asset that it sold for pennies on the dollar and without competition. In fact several GM's had much better offers and Memphis didn't even solicit bids. Only the most delusional Lakers fans don't recognize this reality, as it's common knowledge among NBA fans/writers/front offices.

LOL. Yes, it's "common Knowledge". That's why posters say things like "Memphis had better offers" and no specifics are ever given.

Keep on hatin', Chris.

 

[Cheesebeef]

the Laker deal wasn't a good deal for the Hornets... but it still should have gone through.

the Clipper deal is a GREAT deal for the Hornets... and Stern blocks that one too?

this is insanity. a YOUNG stud SG, a legit/solid C in his prime, the Clippers first round pick from 2010 and a likely high unprotected lotto pick isn't enough for Paul who's gonzo the first chance he gets? Didn't the league say they wanted young assets? uh, did that mean Sterling had to give up his unborn grandchild as well?

this is comically inept.

 

[Renz]

the Laker deal wasn't a good deal for the Hornets... but it still should have gone through.

the Clipper deal is a GREAT deal for the Hornets... and Stern blocks that one too?

this is insanity. a YOUNG stud SG, a legit/solid C in his prime, the Clippers first round pick from 2010 and a likely high unprotected lotto pick isn't enough for Paul who's gonzo the first chance he gets? Didn't the league say they wanted young assets? uh, did that mean Sterling had to give up his unborn grandchild as well?

this is comically inept.

I can see Stern wanting the inclusion of Gordon, but any more than what the Clippers are offering is ridiculous, I agree.

Teams should just stop soliciting offers to Demps. Stern has backed himself into a corner by voiding the Laker trade. Whatever teams offer will never be enough now.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

LOL. Yes, it's "common Knowledge". That's why posters say things like "Memphis had better offers" and no specifics are ever given.

Keep on hatin', Chris.

Yep, all the NBA writers/GM's/fans who recognized the trade as one of the worst for a variety of reasons are all "haters", and Lakers fans are the ones who are truly objective relating to the matter. Heady analysis there!

 

[Joe L]

Memphis made the playoffs because of that trade. Marc Gasol is a borderline all-star now.

Actually, it was Randolph who actually made the impact. And Pau took the Grizzlies to the play-offs, too.

 

[Joe L]

Brad Turner
@BA_Turner Brad Turner
My man John Reid in NO says chris paul walked out of practice with GM dell demps both looked sad that deal to clippers is dead.

http://twitter.com/#!/BA_Turner

A Clips fan from the site I frequent was listening to 710 radio in LA. He caught the interview of Rebecca Shelbourne ( Covers Clippers). He posted the points of the interview:

Here is what she said bout the trade:

I was listening to 710 on the radio and Ramona Shelbourne was on, she sounded like she had a good handle on things, and broke it down like this...

Clips have 5 desirable assets: Gordon, Pick, Aminu, Bledsoe, Kaman's expiring. They have been trying to make a deal while keeping the MOST desirable one of those assets (Gordon). Demps wouldn't do the deal, so eventually Olshey caved and agreed to give EJ instead of Bledsoe. Demps took it to Stern with a big smile on his face and Stern said "No, we want them ALL!".

When Demps took this back to Olshey, he said "**** You", and walked.

She also believes that even if Olshey had agreed, Stern would have found something else to ask for.

This appears to me to be a case of Stern entering into a vendetta against CP3 for questioning his authority and threatening litigation. He seems prepared to blow up the hornets to show the world that he is king of the NBA.

Nobody will enter into talks with NOH anymore, because even if they offer their entire rosters to Demps in the bargain of the century (Like Olshey almost did), Stern will nix it.

Expect Dell Demps resignation and NBAPA/CP3 vs. NBA litigation.

 

[boisesuns]

Brad Turner
@BA_Turner Brad Turner
My man John Reid in NO says chris paul walked out of practice with GM dell demps both looked sad that deal to clippers is dead.

http://twitter.com/#!/BA_Turner

A Clips fan from the site I frequent was listening to 710 radio in LA. He caught the interview of Rebecca Shelbourne ( Covers Clippers). He posted the points of the interview:

Here is what she said bout the trade:

Wow, what a nightmare for the NBA. Even if the NBA owns a team, it's amazing they can strong arm deals like this. It's not like the average NBA fan is already fed up with the NBA, things like this make it hard to want to support/watch, especially more so when coming right from huge $$$ in lockout negotiations.

Stern needs to go.

 

[slinslin]

Memphis made the playoffs because of that trade. Marc Gasol is a borderline all-star now.

wohooo 3 years later or so the Grizz one time snuck into the playoffs as a #8 seed largely due to Zach Randolph.

Good trade for them, it's not like they were a borderline playoff team with Pau before.

 

[Renz]

wohooo 3 years later or so the Grizz one time snuck into the playoffs as a #8 seed largely due to Zach Randolph.

Good trade for them, it's not like they were a borderline playoff team with Pau before.

Memphis won a playoff series and pushed OKC in the conference semis last season. They couldn't win a playoff game with Pau.

 

[Renz]

Yep, all the NBA writers/GM's/fans who recognized the trade as one of the worst for a variety of reasons are all "haters", and Lakers fans are the ones who are truly objective relating to the matter. Heady analysis there!

LOL. Thanks for, again, providing no evidence for your "Memphis had better offers" claims. Kinda proves my point.

When the trade was announced, rival GM's cried "we would have offered more!" Well, they didn't. You snooze, you lose.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

LOL. Thanks for, again, providing no evidence for your "Memphis had better offers" claims. Kinda proves my point.

Most NBA fans are well aware of this information, you can either continue with your current cognitive dissonance approach or do the homework yourself.

When the trade was announced, rival GM's cried "we would have offered more!" Well, they didn't. You snooze, you lose.

Wrong again. Do some research and stop talking out your ass. Even Memphis's GM admitted how questionable it was:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-heisleygasol060308

The more you belabor the point, the less educated (or hopelessly biased) you seem.

 

[boisesuns]

Stern is gunning for GM of the year!

 

[Cheesebeef]

The Hornets GM should have been fired over accepting the previous offer! 3 guys in their 30's with huge amounts owed and Dragic... How anyone could with a straight face claim that to be a good deal for N.O. is beyond me. There's plenty to complain about in regards to Stern, but blocking that trade should be applauded. Bynum should be going to N.O., otherwise I don't see
that Houston or L.A. have sufficiant pieces to make this an acceptable trade.

looks like the league got this right. Demps agreed to what was a REALLY mediocre trade that would help the Hornets be pertually mediocre, the league called the trade and Demps an idiot, then got a king's ransom with a dynamic young scorer in Gordon, a likely top #3 lotto pick in the deepest draft in a decade, another lotto pick from last year and a big expiring contract... who also was an all-star C just a couple years ago.

bitch all you want Laker fans... but the League owns the Hornets and they actually made the right move killing a terrible trade for the Hornets and getting a killer one instead.