Chris Webber

[Griffin]

Webber was supposedly close to signing with the Mavs a few weeks ago, but has not. The Suns are supposedly waiting for PJ Brown, but have they also shown interest in Webber? Sporting News seem to think so:

NBA dish: Webber headed to Phoenix?

Count C/PF Chris Webber out of the Pistons' plans. Heading into the offseason, it seemed Webber's choices would be Detroit, Dallas or retirement, but the Pistons have made a commitment to keep minutes open for some of their young big men, including Fs Jason Maxiell and Amir Johnson. That means Webber, who averaged 11.3 points and 6.7 rebounds in 43 games with Detroit last year, won't be going home again. Webber had a brief flirtation with Orlando, but it appears Dallas -- which has done little to its roster besides adding SG Eddie Jones -- has an upper hand. The Mavs could add PF P.J. Brown, too. There is a darkhorse candidate, though, in the market for both players: Phoenix. Yes, no team runs more than the Suns, and, yes, running is not Webber's strong suit these days (it's not Brown's, either), but Phoenix could be setting up a nifty recruiting battle with the Mavs for both Webber and Brown. ...

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=269549

 

[azirish]

Seems unlikely because Weber lost minutes due to his defense rather than offense. Also, last season his mid range shooting was not that good.

 

[elindholm]

LOL, it's a game of chicken. The Suns are worried that the Mavs are wooing Brown, so they're making noise about Webber to counter.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

I know what you're saying about defense, but you can never have enough passing and shooting. Right D'Antoni?

 

[fordronken]

Would anybody here be happy if the Suns added Webber? Maybe we could re-sign Jalen Rose while we're at it.

 

[Griffin]

Would anybody here be happy if the Suns added Webber? Maybe we could re-sign Jalen Rose while we're at it.

Maybe not happy, but I would rather Webber than Marks or Marks-type player backing up Amare.

 

[fordronken]

Maybe not happy, but I would rather Webber than Marks or Marks-type player backing up Amare.

I may be a supreme optimist, but I really think Marks might surprise us all and be a serviceable back up center on this team when necessary.

There are 96 minutes at power forward and center per game. Let's say Marion plays 25 minutes per game in those spots, Diaw plays 30, Stoudemire plays 37. That's already 92 minutes. So Marks can't play 5 minutes a game? Or, Marion plays 30 minutes and we don't even need Marks on those nights. Some nights, Stoudemire will get in foul trouble and drop down to, say, 25. So Marks has to play 17 minutes that night. Is this the end of the world?

The worst case scenarios are things (without something catastrophic, like Amare going down for the season) are problems like Diaw missing a game with back spasms, and Amare getting into foul trouble. On those nights, Stoudemire plays 25, Marion plays 42, Marks plays 20 minutes and Tucker masquerades as a "4" for 9 minutes. If that happens against the Spurs, well, we weren't going to win anyway. If it happens against the Lakers, we've still got a shot at winning the game.

 

[Chaplin]

I think Webber's knees are shot, but I wouldn't mind him coming off the bench if he were signed to a low salary. The guy is still a very good passer, and you can't have too many ballhandlers.

 

[Cheesebeef]

if it was Webber getting minutes or Marks getting minutes, uh, yeah, I take Webber and his shot knees every time over a guy who has never shown the ability to do anything in the NBA.

 

[mribnik]

I may be a supreme optimist, but I really think Marks might surprise us all and be a serviceable back up center on this team when necessary.

You're not the only one. I'm still shocked he got less run last year than Burke did. I have no idea how good he is, but I always thought he was a better player and a smarter player than Burke. Hopefully the Suns go into the season with more than just Marks, but I think he'll definitely show he has some value this season.

 

[overseascardfan]

Would anybody here be happy if the Suns added Webber? Maybe we could re-sign Jalen Rose while we're at it.

Why stop there? Lets trade for Juwan Howard, and go find Jimmy King and Ray Jackson to re unite the Fab 5. Just keep the ball out of Webber's hands late in games.

 

[mribnik]

You know, I thought Webber looked better athletically last year than I thought he would. He still has something left in the tank. I'd much rather have Brown of course, but if Brown retires and the Suns end up with Webber, I think he'd be somewhat valuable to this team.

 

[mjb21aztd]

Would 100 percent rather see pj brown then webber since brown brings more of what we need in defense for when we play the spurs

 

[Cheesebeef]

Would 100 percent rather see pj brown then webber since brown brings more of what we need in defense for when we play the spurs

i think everyone agrees with you, but i think most people believe that PJ is likely gonna retire or go to the highest bidder, which will most likely be Dallas.

 

[BC867]

Hanging their hopes on PJ not retiring or not being outbid. Looking at retreads.

Suns management is operating from a position of weakness.

When leadership does that, whether it's sports or politics, the only answer is, turn it over to leaders who know how to take charge of a situation.

These weekly reports, as the Suns sit severly understaffed in the 2 power positions, are getting old.

 

[Sunsman44]

Hanging their hopes on PJ not retiring or not being outbid. Looking at retreads.

Suns management is operating from a position of weakness.

When leadership does that, whether it's sports or politics, the only answer is, turn it over to leaders who know how to take charge of a situation.

These weekly reports, as the Suns sit severly understaffed in the 2 power positions, are getting old.

No doubt.

Suns are on bended knee with PJ Brown, as if he is some king.

It should be the opposite. PJ should be begging to have the privilage to sit on that Suns bench for league minimum and be glad about it!

Suns need to buckle up and trade for a big man and sign another such as Skinner. They cannot possibly go into the season with only 1 big. They need at minimum 3!

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

No one likes a broken record.

 

[Cheesebeef]

No one likes a broken record.

says the man, who just said this in another thread after a Sunsman's post. You two are funny.

 

[Sunsman44]

says the man, who just said this in another thread after a Sunsman's post. You two are funny.

Couldn't help but LOL on your reply.

I know I know. U hate it when I "LOL" or agree with you.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Couldn't help but LOL on your reply.

I know I know. U hate it when I "LOL" or agree with you.

that was a joke dude - although, yes, I generally think you're a loon - but I'm a loon too, so I can't disparage anyone for being what they are.

I mean, you've certainly gotten on my nerves with some of the stuff you've said/done, probably like I have with you at some point, but if I really dislike what you're saying so much, I can just put you on ignore - but you're generally good entertainment, so why bother?

to each his own, no matter how weird, negative, positive, etc, etc, that may be. The only thing that gets me really mad is when people flat out lie about thingsor completely misrepresent others arguments or frame false premises, but there'sreally only one person on this board who does that and I have a good time debating him as well.

like I said, to each his own.

 

[BC867]

No one likes a broken record.

So you're agreeing it's time for ownership/management to change its tune of
'We go small' . . . 'We go smaller' . . . 'We go smallest'?

 

[Sunsman44]

So you're agreeing it's time for ownership/management to change its tune of
'We go small' . . . 'We go smaller' . . . 'We go smallest'?

And how will smallest win a title? Just curious.

 

[BC867]

And how will smallest win a title? Just curious.

That's the point, of course. After all these years, management should change it's tune (philosophy) and --- I was going to say 'realize', but they probably do --- CHANGE (yes, I shouted it) their post-season readiness.

One 240 pounder in the lineup with 4 Small Forwards and Guards is indeed the broken record . . . a record which includes no Championships, one legitimate Finals appearance and one Cinderella appearance in almost 40 years.

My god, how long does it take? The people of the Valley and Arizona deserve changing that broken record.

 

[Sunsman44]

That's the point, of course. After all these years, management should change it's tune (philosophy) and --- I was going to say 'realize', but they probably do --- CHANGE (yes, I shouted it) their post-season readiness.

One 240 pounder in the lineup with 4 Small Forwards and Guards is indeed the broken record . . . a record which includes no Championships, one legitimate Finals appearance and one Cinderella appearance in almost 40 years.

My god, how long does it take? The people of the Valley and Arizona deserve changing that broken record.

Yes! Yes! Yes!

Finally somebody with logic and reasoning skills.

Exactly what I have been trying to get across - with nothing but sarcasm, personal attacks, and jokes coming back against me.

Amare, the lone big, is not going to get it done. The bench is too thin on the frontline and the signing of Grant Hill is not going to compensate for any shortcomings Suns have. Getting rid of Kurt Thomas, James Jones, and a total of 3 draft picks to sign a 35-year-old is hardly justified ---> especially if you have intentions of winning a title.

Broken record or not, unless Suns trade for frontline and bench help, they will see the same exact results the past 3 years have come to show.

D'Antoni's stubborn 7-man rotation is going to get tired - just as they have for the last 3 years.

Once there is big change in the organization - pun well intended - the Suns will win a title!

The mess that is organization has shown in terms of bad contracts, bad trades, and bad draft transactions will prove the task very difficult. But it can be done. I am all for an overhaul of D'Antoni's stubborn philosophy.

 

[F-Dog]

Webber looked decent last year with Rasheed Wallace covering for him. Playing next to Amare might be a different story, though.

Obviously, P.J. would be a better fit, since the Suns have already worked through two half-seasons with KT. P.J. would slide into that role very comfortably.






I see the Frank Johnson fans are out in force this week. Hey, maybe the Suns can pick up Jake Voskuhl and give him the starting job again...