Christian Kirk being shopped?

[wit3card]

totally disagree. He is a number 3 with suspect hands on a good team.

If we draft CeeDee, Kirk is 4th on the team probably sooner than later...

 

[Finito]

I wouldn’t readily dismiss this. These things often never get realized, but this is consistent with what I posted earlier that the Cards had doubts about his long term future.

it’s completely made up it even says so in the article. Pretty much just says teams like him

 

[Garthshort]

There is NO WAY that Michael Bidwill, in the midst of a Pandemic, would trade away a local guy. NO WAY.

 

[Buckybird]

If they do indeed draft Lamb or Jeudy first, I can see it happening to possibly recoup a #2 pick. Otherwise I can’t see it or any reasoning behind it

 

[WildBB]

If they're willing to trade their 2nd I'd do it. Opens the door to draft Lamb and implement Isabella more.

 

[FB94]

There is NO WAY that Michael Bidwill, in the midst of a Pandemic, would trade away a local guy. NO WAY.

Agree. The Cardinals are making a big deal of the SAG 3, and hometown players. They want fans to connect with this.

 

[Solar7]

I don't see this happening at all. The hate Kirk gets here is just wild.

If we draft CeeDee, Kirk is 4th on the team probably sooner than later...

I can't agree with this take. Lamb's been in a similar offense, but he's still going to be a rookie with almost no time in camp. Kirk also played with Kyler in college, and has a full "for real" year in the offense.

 

[wit3card]

I don't see this happening at all. The hate Kirk gets here is just wild.


I can't agree with this take. Lamb's been in a similar offense, but he's still going to be a rookie with almost no time in camp. Kirk also played with Kyler in college, and has a full "for real" year in the offense.

If Larry stays another 2 years (which is possible and reasonable if he wants to get to 20k) and he stays on his actual level, next year Lamb will be in for #2 or #1b on this team, wheras Kirk has to have better hands and command more coverage missmatch than Larry to be #3.

I don't see it, if Larry doesn't fall, Kirk will be the #4 WR sooner rather then later. And c'mon you know, high school and collage are two different things.

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

There is NO WAY that Michael Bidwill, in the midst of a Pandemic, would trade away a local guy. NO WAY.

This reminded me of the famous line about investing: Buy when there is blood in the streets.

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

I don't see this happening at all. The hate Kirk gets here is just wild.


I can't agree with this take. Lamb's been in a similar offense, but he's still going to be a rookie with almost no time in camp. Kirk also played with Kyler in college, and has a full "for real" year in the offense.

How is it “hate” if people are saying don’t trade him unless you get a second?

I’d say the same thing about Fitz. Does that mean I “hate” Fitz?

Also, you’re being disingenuous to equate Kyler’s QB-WR relationship with Kirk to that of his one with Lamb.

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

Also, anyone here that wouldn’t trade Fitz for a 2nd doesn’t care about winning, and should be able to admit that.

 

[Solar7]

If Larry stays another 2 years (which is possible and reasonable if he wants to get to 20k) and he stays on his actual level, next year Lamb will be in for #2 or #1b on this team, wheras Kirk has to have better hands and command more coverage missmatch than Larry to be #3.

I don't see it, if Larry doesn't fall, Kirk will be the #4 WR sooner rather then later. And c'mon you know, high school and collage are two different things.

Lamb isn't a guaranteed immediate smash hit. Few WRs in the first round have been in recent history. Way more busts than success stories. Lamb has to come in and prove he knows the offense and can get off the ball on the outside before he's anything. The Lamb love is way over the top. I think he's a good player, but he's not ousting Larry, and it's gonna be a long climb to oust Kirk.

I didn't say anything about High School.

How is it “hate” if people are saying don’t trade him unless you get a second?

I’d say the same thing about Fitz. Does that mean I “hate” Fitz?

Also, you’re being disingenuous to equate Kyler’s QB-WR relationship with Kirk to that of his one with Lamb.

I'm not talking specifically about this thread or anything you said. Just the general thought that people want to replace him with Lamb so badly.

Kyler Murray has thrown more completed passes to Christian Kirk in his combined career than he has CeeDee Lamb.

 

[TheCardFan]

This reminded me of the famous line about investing: Buy when there is blood in the streets.

Yeah...one of my favorites from Warren Buffett: "Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful"

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

Buffett would definitely draft a WR in Keim’s shoes.

/Joke

 

[DVontel]

I don't see this happening at all. The hate Kirk gets here is just wild.

lol, the hate him & Budda receives is almost mind blowing.

 

[Dante]

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[TheCardFan]

That doesn't sound definitive to me.

They have not been approached by any teams - have the Cardinals approached?
Arizona is not planning to move him - is not the same as we are not trading him.

Interesting wording IMO

I don't want Kirk traded...just saying.

 

[Garthshort]

That doesn't sound definitive to me.

They have not been approached by any teams - have the Cardinals approached?
Arizona is not planning to move him - is not the same as we are not trading him.

Interesting wording IMO

I don't want Kirk traded...just saying.

Sounds like you're 'just sayin' that you want it both ways.

 

[TheCardFan]

I will clarify...

I don't want to trade Kirk.
If we do, it would have to be a 2nd round pick or a starting player.

My point above was that statement didn't sound like a total denial...like "we are not trading Kirk".

 

[Garthshort]

The Card Fan, thanks. For me, that's a total denial. And the fact that it wasn't worded better is because of everyone being "out of the office". (Boss says, you could have done a better job, but we have bigger problems, so hit send).

 

[Dante]

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[Garthshort]

I'm sure that it was put out by Arizona, even though they have no intention of trading him. They want teams to think they are interested in trading Kirk, thus opening up a need for a WR. This might interest teams (who want a particular WR to trade up and draft that WR) and, thus leaving a player that Arizona wants. For example Carolina seems to leaning Brown whom Arizona wants (Guess, guess) and they trade down to the spot (Jax) behind Az, figuring Az will take a WR, and they'll be able to get Brown at #9.

My point is whenever you see an article show up just before the Draft that makes no sense, there's usually a reason for it. JMO.

 

[AZman5103]

If the cowboys want to overpay...like give us #51 and #123....AND the staff thinks that both Isabella and Butler are going to make big time jumps this year...then I might consider trading him.

If both of those things aren't happening...(really solid value + huge faith in Isabella and Butler BOTH)...then I see no reason in the world to trade him. I think if he can stay healthy, he is going to have a big year.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

He has two years left on his deal and has been an average performer. The best use of Kirk is to play him out on his rookie deal this year as a good WR #3 and then either pay him or trade him next year with a year left on his deal.

 

[Ronin]

Just a wild thought....Cowboys trade for Dante Pettis.